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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 2 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, Sept. 1 2014 9:45 p.m. MDT

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

you forgot one Don.

Never leave a loaded gun unattended unless it is locked up.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

9 year olds shouldn't be playing with Uzis.

They should be playing ball, dolls, or make believe. Not shooting an automatic for fun.

That's the bottom line.

ECR
Burke, VA

Thanks Don, for these common sense statements. Please forgive me for modifying what you say just a bit.

"It should be the first rule required to be taught by any gun course and the stadard by which society in general."

We can argue all we want about the right to own guns or the requirement for background checks and registrations. But what should be the first rule of thumb is to be responsible with the use of guns. Too many tragic deaths occur each year because people are not responsible in the care and storage of their guns.

Thanks again for saying it.

Esquire
Springville, UT

While I agree fully with the writer, additional precautions must be taken. Most gun deaths are by family or friends of the victim. How can these deaths be prevented?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Gun "SAFETY"... is a GOOD thing. Gun "FEAR"... is not.

Too many people are trying to start Gun FEAR. I think we should focus on Gun SAFETY.

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

Couldn't agree more. And yet these two very simple rules are ignored by many who should know better. Take, for instance, the Arizona legislator, an avid gun rights supporter, who pointed her handgun at a journalist during an interview in her office. She violated both of the most basic of gun handling rules. I think she said she was joking, but it's a serious breach of gun safety protocol. I don't think the journalist was laughing. If people who vocally stand for the Second Amendment can't model responsible gun behavior, who can?

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

JoeBlow: "Never leave a loaded gun unattended unless it is locked up."

Applying the second premise from the letter (Treat every gun as if it is loaded) to your addition logically yields the corollary "Never leave a gun unattended unless it is locked up." since the presumption is that all guns are loaded.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The common interpretation of that is "shoot to kill" If it is a machine gun people obsess over...Shoot to kill alot.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

Guns were a necessary component to the Union's success in putting down lawless anarchists during the Civil War. As  Abraham Lincoln famously stated "Whenever the vicious portion of the population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this government cannot last." We must ensure that the right people have access to firearms so that we are not again threatened with the prospect of a Civil War.

ECR
Burke, VA

2 bits - I think too many people are trying to start Fear of Having Guns Taken Away. How many people on the right have claimed that Barrack Obama's agenda is to take all of our guns away? Wayne LaPierre of the NRA is probably the most outspoken in his claims about the president's intentions. But think how many in the media or in the Congress have made the same claims?

And how many has the president taken? Not one. The Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence has given him an F grade for his lack of action against the gun lobby. A report called “Failed Leadership, Lost Lives,” concludes: “He (President Obama) not only failed to voice any support for–much less sign–any new gun laws to close dangerous loopholes, but has actually signed repeals of more federal gun polices than President George W. Bush did in both of his terms.”

The only fear I have is who is keeping check on the unbridled appetites of gun manufacturers who the NRA really represents, not “4 million members” who simply love the Second Amendment, as they claim.

airnaut
Everett, 00

How about --

Back ground checks for criminals and the mentally ill?
or
Keeping Uzi's out of the hands of 9 year olds?

Everytime a SandyHook, Columbine, Aurora, Viginia Tech,
or
child accidently shoots a friend, sibling or anyone else...

We get these sappy "guns are our friends" letters to the editor.

BTW --
I'm not anti-gun.
I just think we need rules and restrictions.

This "Free for all", "anything goes", "shall not be infringed" is ONLY for sane, law abiding ADULT citizens.

I'm a veteran, small arms certified and a decorated marksman.

Must weapons are safe and secure in GUN safes!
Just like the Military and Police keep theirs.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "9 year olds shouldn't be playing with Uzis."

Only a liberal would assume the authority to tell the rest of the universe what they can or can't do. In fact, it's the foundational tenet of the liberal religion, to tell the rest of us what we can or can't do, in every facet of our lives.

Liberals. Gotta love 'em.

SuperNova
Eagle, UT

@procuradorfiscal

In fact, it's the foundational tenet of the liberal religion, to tell the rest of us what we can or can't do, in every facet of our lives.

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And a liberal would say the same of conservatives. Case in point...why do conservatives care about what gender the parties of a marriage are? Why are conservatives trying to shove religion at me in putting the Ten Commandments in each court room? School Prayer? Take my money to fund wars?

Each side can accuse the other of trying to be controlling. A liberal sees freedom generally in social freedom, and a conservative generally equates freedom with fiscal freedom. A liberal might say "You can have my money for food stamps, just don't tell me whom I can and I cannot marry." A conservative might say "I have no problem with the State defining marriage how they want, but don't take my money for food stamps." (Painting a VERY broad picture here, and generalizing it)

We all want freedom. How we define freedom is where we disagree.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ECR,

IMO the focus should be on SAFETY... not FEAR.

And I mean fear on either side. Not fear of guns. And not fear of having your 2nd amendment rights taken away. Not fear of right-wing. Not fear of Progressives.

We need to FOCUS.... and focus on the right thing... SAFETY (not fear)

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IF we'd focus on SAFETY... we wouldn't NEED to worry about the fear... because there would be nothing to fear.

We wouldn't have 8-year-olds having accidents with usis. And there wouldn't be all these "Progressives" proposing new laws and regulations that in affect infringe on people's 2nd amendment rights.

The cause of the accident wasn't her age. The problem was her experience level and her ability. She obviously wasn't ready for an uzi or even a pistol. But that doesn't mean there is an automatic age limit. Some young people have been trained on safety and can handle guns safely (though I see no need for them to handle an uzi). But I know some 40-year-olds I would also not trust with an uzi.... so AGE alone... should NOT be the criteria here.

The Educator
South Jordan , UT

@ Pro

and conservatives don't force their restrictions on us?

Have you seen the marriage and booze laws here in Utah? Have you seen their demands on educators? Have you seen how they've tried to force their ideals on other countries (using my hard earned tax dollars to kill innocent Iraqis)?

Why do conservatives feel like abortion is so evil yet revel in the destruction of lives in the Middle-East?

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"The cause of the accident wasn't her age. "

That is true. It was caused, for the most part by her small size which contributed in her lack of ability to control the weapon.

Her size was, in part, due to her age.

ECR
Burke, VA

2 bits - I totally agree with your point that gun safety should be our number one priority. Guns are not going away and so we should promote safe use and storage of guns in order to protect as many innocent lives as possible. And many of the gun deaths in this country are a result of poor safety habits.

"Progressives" proposing new laws and regulations that in affect infringe on people's 2nd amendment rights." And how many of those proposed laws have been passed?

I support gun rights but I don't believe that a right to own a gun is a right to own it without anyone knowing I own it. Let's register all guns. How is that an infringement on someone's rights? I have to register my car. There is a record if I obtain a fishing license. Why not my gun?

Yes, the criminals will get past registration but sometimes people who are otherwise good citizens turn into criminals and so it would be nice to have a record of, at least, those guns. And while we're on the subject, why does one man (or woman) need to have dozens of guns?

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

Just keep them out of sight out of mind. I smoke cigaret, No one know that.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ECR,

RE: "I have to register my car. There is a record if I obtain a fishing license. Why not my gun?"...

We already have gun registration. You have to pass the Brady Bill to get a gun (did you know that)? I assume that goes into a database somewhere.

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RE: "Why does one man (or woman) need to have dozens of guns"...

I don't know.... Why does one man (or woman) need the right to posses more than one car?

Why does anyone need the right to have an abortion? Or marijuana? Or alcohol? Or pornography...

Because I don't understand it... doesn't mean I must do away with their right to have it?

This is called "Tolerance". Not completely understanding why somebody wants or does something... and not thinking because we don't understand their motivations... they should not have the right to do the thing we don't understand.

It doesn't matter if you don't know why somebody would want dozens of guns. Just be tolerant of someone who's different than you...

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BTW... I don't fear proposals that take away 2nd amendment rights... I fear what would happen AFTER that....

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

We all know the rules. We know to keep scissors pointed down. We know to never point a gun at anything we do not want to kill. We know to never speak unkindly to anyone, but we all break rules. Many people hide behind false identities and then act like they were raised in a barnyard. The simple solution is to acknowledge the fact that we are all family and that we need to treat everyone as family. There would be no verbal assaults and no physical assaults. We would never point a gun at anyone. We would take anyone aside who uses a false identity and ask him or her why they're afraid of identifying themselves.

We would stop acting like we had been raised in a barnyard and would start acting like the people we really are - members of the same family. We would stop insisting that marriage be redefined to include the 1.6% who practice same-sex sex, instead we would do what's right for society. We would encourage everyone to work and help get people off the dole.

We would treat guns and words and actions properly.

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