What about the maniacal BYU fans who scream and shout clever synonyms of
traditional swearing and threats of violence while totally sober? I agree
it's more about culture than "Beer" but it's easier to blame a
sinful behavior, than a sinful attitude.
How about the constant beer commercials for televised football that fuels the
@ U-tarWrong. Far too many sheltered people in this state for the U
to partake in the radical concept of selling beer at a sporting event.
U of U is probably # 1 on the list
It's like guns, there's a constitutional amendment about it, and we
can generally trust most people to be responsible with it, but some we
can't so it needs to be sufficiently regulated in a logical manner.
I've been to games nearly everywhere in the country. Beer is almost never
an issue. The real issue is culture. I've seen stadiums where the fan
responsibility/culture is adequate to control the situation--drunk dudes try to
pick fights, and the home fans diffuse the situation and security is there in
like 5 seconds (Oxford, South Bend, UNLV, etc.). I've also seen situations
where drunken inebriation is encouraged and devolves into something scary
(Wyoming, SDSU come to mind first). Cultivate the right culture, and enjoy if
that is your thing.Also, I'm Mormon, but I find this "keep
football for families by not introducing beer into stadiums" sentiment to be
really sheltered. Nearly everywhere else in the country, football is for adults
and students first, and families and kids second. Parents who take their kids
know and accept the risks.
At qual comm stadium they have a family section where alcohol can not be sold or
brought into the section. Maybe a beer only section opposite of the student
section would please the anti alcohol crowd.On another note I took
my wife and two young kids to Oktoberfest at snowbird where 1000's of beer
drinking adults behaved just fine. No fights or drunken idiots were present and
we were there for two days.
I don't think alcohol is the solution to revenue issue. If they have to
lower their standards to create revenue, then it will come back to haunt them
in the end. With all the problems alcohol causes, this cannot be a good thing.
People get crazy at it is at college football games. Crazy + Alcohol =
re: "Why does the Dnews hate capitalism? I thought the almighty buck was
all that was important to repubs"My question is why the DNews
allows personal attacks like this, particularly when they are not remotely close
to true. This is an ad personam attack at best, and a gross over-generalization
and untruth at worst.
Dode, please list all the stadiums that you've attended football games at
that serve beer. I want to know where to go to watch my football this fall.Thank you very much.Respectfully yours,BJ
Sports and intoxication. It works so well in soccer. What could possibly go
wrong?Seriously, alcohol is not always the worst of things. But it
creates a VERY different atmosphere at an event. One less family friendly.
While I agree with the premise that beer sales should not be permitted at
college games, this article is full of fallacy and does nothing but attack
beer.1. A beer or two at a game is not going to result in poor
decision making by 10's of thousands of people.2. Cut off sales in
the third quarter like pro venues do to reduce the drunk driving.3. Do not
sell to visibly intoxicated people. (This is already law).
I lived in Las Vegas for years. I agree that responsible adults should be able
to have a beer. I attended a number of sporting events at the football
stadium. During one game vs..UNLV and Hawaii, I witnessed a number of fights as
fans got out of hand. The problem with serving alcohol at games is non
responsible adults drink as well. I have been to a few Denver
Bronco games and witnessed a lot of fights in he stands. People that just want
to watch a game get involved in the action all too often.
"Drunken fans aren't very sportsmanlike, either"From
Spanish Fork, my guess is BYU fans, and I'll bet the offending school was
Wyoming. If this is all true beer has little to do with why the other teams
fans were offensive to you.
Note about kids at football games.They don't belong there. It's
too violent and serves no purpose for their upbringing.
I understand that many have issues with this article's opposition to beer
sales at sporting events--and some even argue that 50 or 60 thousand fans can
exercise "responsible adulthood" with beer sales or that we should worry
about our own house rather than trying to limit beer sales at a raucous game.
That's easy to say, but all those fans have to get home.If
you've ever lost a loved one to drunk driving, and I have, it's a lot
harder to believe so many people who will soon be on the road will drink
"responsibly". Furthermore, I believe those concerned with beer sales at
games are very concerned about their own house--hence the opposition.
From City Weekly - Dec. 2, 2009Among his reasons for hating all the
players, fans, plants, liberal-arts instructors and maintenance sheds at the U
was his contention that during 2008’s game, his family was treated to a
variety of “nasty things” at Rice- Eccles stadium. By nearly all
judgments, the most awful act committed by those Ute fans was that they tossed
beer on his “family and stuff.” Of course.
1- It's legal for adults2- Why does the Dnews hate capitalism? I
thought the almighty buck was all that was important to repubs.3- Look up
who the first people in Utah were, who sold beer & liquor. Might be eye
I'm sorry but I do not like going to games and having someone toasted a few
rows from me screaming and ranting like a wild man. Yes, there are a few who do
this normally, but when there is alcohol involved, some go absolutely crazy.
Believe it or not, responsible adulthood is legal on the other side of Zion.
Beer, football, children.........Yeah, makes sense to me!
An interesting article to add to the mix of this article.Student
attendance at college football games is down approximately 10% in the last five
years according to an article from the Wall Street Journal.If I
were the CEO of a major football program I would be concerned about this trend.
The only reason this is an "issue" is because this article is posted in
Salt Lake City.I would suggest that all of us worry about our own house
before we cast aspersions at the preferences of others.Were someone to
weekly take issue with obesity and the contribution of ice cream, jello, candy,
soda pop etc. etc. it wouldn't fly so well.I'm guessing that
beer is healthier that everything I just listed. Relax folks.
The worst experiences we have had with college sports have been at football
games where the beer flowed. At one major university there was literally beer
running down the walkway to the stadium. Drunken fans aren't very
sportsmanlike, either. It is a bad idea on so many levels.
I was a young and dumb once but when you pretend to be what your not you soon
forget who you once was.
Let adults act like adults. There is nothing wrong with having a beer at a
game. Not to mention it will generate a nice chunk of revenue.
Beer's OK. What they charge for it is a crime.