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Published: Thursday, Aug. 28 2014 10:45 p.m. MDT

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Gunner
South Jordan, UT

Loved the Herriman fans in the first half acting like they just won state when they would stop a 3rd down conversion. haha Classic Herriman fan. That O Line of Herriman is HUGE! Looked like a college O Line. Bingham makes big plays when it needs to. That's what championship type teams do. Herriman will be tough in that region. Great game Miners. I do believe they will have their hands full next week in Vegas against a private school that has some of the best players in the west on it. But really says something that Peck is willing to give his kids that type of experience. Regardless of the outcome next week, think it will benefit the Miners in the long run. Maybe next year Herriman fan. But judging from the outcome of the JV and Sophomore games, probably not.

2020
Herriman, UT

Bingham was better than Herriman because Herriman had three horrible turnovers, not one of them "forced." Turnovers are part of winning and losing, and that is why I say, that Bingham was better than Herriman.

Bingham went 11 yards after the Herrimans QB hit the fullback with the football, so they never even got the handoff, a gift. The next TD was a pick six because the QB threw it way behind the fullback. A good throw and it's only about a two yard gain because the corner was there, but that corner didn't have to do anything special but catch it and run, another gift. The field goal came after the punt hit a Herriman player downfield blocking. Bingham went 7 yards and had to kick a field goal.

They went up 24-7 on three turnovers and 18 yards of offense. Not next year Gunner, November.

Gunner
South Jordan, UT

HAHA really? How about the fumble was because the Bingham D line had penetrated the backfield before he got the ball to the RB? How about the corner read the QB's eyes the whole way and broke on the ball perfectly. It wasn't thrown behind him! Another classic Herriman fan. "Oh we gave the game away" No, it was taken away from you! In November the Bingham O Line will be on the same page and it will be a bigger beat down than last night was. Bingham was the better team all around. On offense, defense, and special teams. Period!

jazzer
St. George, UT

@2020

Every turnover in football is caused by the other team. If Herriman was a good team, then those turnovers would not have happened.

Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

Last year, Herriman was a .500 football team. Week in and week out, "Herriman Fan" was on here telling us that if Herriman had not fumbled here or gained 2 more yards there, Herriman would have won state. Funny how things don't change that much.

Fact is Bingham is Bingham precisely because they consistently make those plays. Herriman is Herriman because they do not.

You can spin it however you want, but scoring 17 points on 18 yards after 3 takeaways wins games, and that is what champions do. In reality, take away that 59 yard run late in the first half, and Herriman was shut out.

I was impressed with Herriman last night. I think they are better than last year (i.e., better than .500) and will make some noise before the year is over. I just wish "Herriman Fan" could get over their Bingham envy, acknowledge that the better team won last night, and graciously move on. I'd love to see a Bingham-Herriman rematch in November, but I think the results will be similar to last night.

HSFAN
Salt Lake City, UT

I watched the game on TV. Herriman is legit and may actually end up in the semis, but that is where the road ends. Bingham's offense will continue to improve, just like last year. Herriman fans should be excited for this year, but while they make excuses when they lose, just like they did last year 6 times, Bingham will move on towards another State title. I also hear the JV and Soph games were absolute blowouts, so it might be a few years before they have a shot to beat Bingham.

Gunner
South Jordan, UT

"If the QB didn't throw it behind him" "If the fumble didn't happen" blah blah blah. If if's and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

2020
Herriman, UT

Like I said, turnovers are part of winning and losing, and that's why Bingham was better than Herriman. But the turnovers happened the way I said. It wasn't because of the D line penetration, or because the corner read his eyes the whole way. They happened exactly the way I said they did. If you have it on a DVR go watch it again. If Bingham continues to protect the football and Herriman continues to turn it over, Bingham will beat them again. I'm not even saying that Herriman would have won without the turnovers, but they certainly could have.

I will even give up the Bingham envy. Every team in the state wants to have a program that wins as much as they do. That is no stretch. They win all of the time, their home atmosphere is awesome. Am I supposed to somehow feel bad for wanting Herriman to win state championships like Bingham has in recent years? If you want to call it Bingham envy, that's fine. It's just like when Bingham, and every other school in the state, had Skyline envy in the 90s.

See you in November

BishopGormanGaels
Las Vegas, NV

Good luck to Bingham next week playing at Las Vegas! I hope it's a good game and Utah in general represent well nationally for themselves. Playing at Bishop Gorman's home-field is NEVER easy..the top teams from Florida, California, and Maryland always struggle to play here. The number 1 team in the nation last year struggled with our home field immensely. Anyways, good luck miners!

Gunner
South Jordan, UT

I was at the game, and I DVR'd the game and watched it again last night. I just re watched the turnovers, and the nose guard is a yard in the back field pushing the QB into the RB to cause the fumble. The Corner read the QB's eyes the whole way. Heck, even the announcers said the QB stared down his receiver the whole way! The corner saw that throw coming 2 seconds before it was every thrown. Everybody in the crowd saw that throw coming! It was a giveaway, it was a TAKEAWAY! Again, Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda! I could say if Beingham didn't allow the long run before half, they would have shut them out. But they didn't. But the regrouped at half and came out and put a beat down on Herriman in the 2nd half. I think Herriman is a good team. They have a great O Line. But they are not elite.

2020
Herriman, UT

Watch it again. You can see the ball hit the fullback come lose and he still tries to give it to the tail back and it hits off his chest, instead of his gut. Plus, i have first hand knowledge that's what happened. We'll have to agree to disagree on the pick, because it looks as obvious to me it was due to the bad throw as you say it was the corner reading his eyes. It was so far behind him, he ended up facing the opposite sideline than the one he was running the rout to. We're not going to change each others mind.

I am not saying woulda coulda shoulda, I am saying that what happened, is why Bingham was better than Herriman last night. I hope Herriman gets another shot in November.

Gunner
South Jordan, UT

I have first hand knowledge also. I was there. Bottom line is Herriman is not as good as Bingham and it proved out last night. Good luck in region play.

HSFAN
Salt Lake City, UT

2020 - incredible! Bingham was only better last night? If played every day until November it would be the same thing. A Bingham win and reasons why Herriman gave the game away. Maybe....just spitballing here... Maybe Bingham puts so much pressure on teams and players that they eventually make mistakes. Funny how Jordan, Brighton, Herriman and every other team Bingham plays makes mistakes they don't typically make. I know this is a stretch, what if it had to do with Bingham. No worries I am sure coach Peck and his staff feel fortunate that all these teams make mistakes against the Miners by sheer coincidence. Lol

Gunner
South Jordan, UT

The announcers on the broadcast said it perfectly. The Herriman coach said he thought they could hang with Bingham physically. But wondered if they could hang mentally and keep their composure. Obviously he knew something about his team. Kids having to play both ways on other teams is a huge factor into why Bingham pulls those plays off. The kids are fresh physically and mentally for 4 qtrs.

2020
Herriman, UT

I frankly think we are saying a lot of the same things. I agree with the broadcasters to. I think you could say it came down to the quarterbacks. Gearig was mentally tough, made very few mistakes (big sack after a timeout is the only thing that comes to mind), especially 0 turnovers. Our QB was nervous, playing Bingham, and turned it over 4 times, two of which led directly to 14 points when the game was tied. That's why Bingham was better than Herriman. Ultimately all I am saying is that if Herriman does not turn the ball over, they are good enough, this year, to beat Bingham. I'm not saying they will, I am saying they are capable.

side note, Herriman plays almost nobody both ways. 7 got a couple carries on Offense, but I'm pretty sure that was it.

Also, I wouldn't read too much into the sophs and JV, Herriman's sophs beat Bingham last year, what did that mean this year?

I only hate Bingham in that, "they are right next door and are good at everything kind of way," which is how Bingham would want it. I totally respect them, especially Peck and Sato.

football fever
slc, UT

Some of the statements obviously from the miners camp, are not as acurate as they want people to believe. I WAS IN THE END ZONE for the first turn over in the second half what happened the quarter back missed the hand off hit the full bacm number 37 on the thigh causing the fumble . This was Herrimans mistake , not the football skills of the defense. The turn overs killed Herriman this does not reflect by any means Bingham having some super human football skills. Dont get me wrong BINGHAM IS GOOD.They are well coached abd talented team. However the arrogant attitude of the miners some how takes away from any what they show on the field.

Unknown User
Salt Lake City, UT

Herriman surprised me with how well they played the Miners. Bingham was the best all around team last night, but Herriman played a great game defensively. Herriman's defense kept the Miners in check most of the night and Bingham had to make great plays elsewhere, which is what a great team does. Herriman's defense needs to feel proud of the way that they shut down the Miners offensively. With that being said though I think this was the best chance for Herriman to beat Bingham this season because the next time they face Bingham the O-line is going to have almost a seasons worth of varsity experience under their belt which means they are going to be clicking on all cylinders come November.
This year is a great year for Utah High School Football fans with there being so much talent and competition in every region. This year though, it is going to be the Bingham Miners to lose as they are good, and going to be great by seasons end in every facet of the game.
Good luck to the Miners as they go to represent our entire state against the #1 team in the country!

eagle
Provo, UT

I would say that Bingham is very beatable, maybe not by Herriman but maybe a team like PG that has a proven championship coach in Hamilton. Or by an Jordan team that has athletes and an explosive QB. Or perhaps Brighton who has Masina. Bingham is the team to beat and they have great recent tradition and great coaching. But I'm not sure this team is as athletic as past Miner teams and I think the road might not be as easy this year.

ExTBird
Springville, US-UT

Yeah this isn't Bingham's best team by any stretch of the imagination.

Gunner
South Jordan, UT

Well put it this way. Every coach that I've spoken to from Bingham in the last week, and it's been more than a couple, has said they think this is the best defense they have had at Bingham. And it's 2 games into the season. So I'll take their word on what they think and what I see out on the field. In 2 games, the starters have surrendered a total of 7 points. Jordan almost lost to Fremont last week. They have a great QB and that is it. A horrible defense as they did last year. Jordan will be 3rd in region 3 this year.

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