Perhaps the relevance of the photo is that this young woman had a lifestyle that
was not conducive to raising a new baby and that the child would interfere with
that lifestyle. It is reminiscent of the Casey Anthony case in Florida where
there was a real lack of natural affection for the victim in this case a newborn
Yet no one else on her block managed to figure it out either? There is pregnant
and there is fat. You can't always be the expert. If she is always wearing
a larger shirt on around her parents they would not know. They are not in the
@jn540This photo is important to this case, because the girl/woman is
obviously pregnant AND near-term.YET, her parents didn't notice she
was pregnant? In a tiny little home in Kearns?There's a lot
more that SHOULD BE revealed.
All you parents out there who have never made a parenting mistake, or who have
never been clueless about what your child is capable of doing, or who have at
some point not known where your young adult was one night, you can cast the
first stone at these parents. You can't hold a special needs adult down all
of the time, especially if they are capable of walking on their own and want to
be treated more mature than they are. There are too many unknown factors here to
Hey it's me, She was in special ed environment and the school
facilitated a job for her. She has to have some medical/mental difficulty to get
special ed and get job help of that nature. It is just not announced. The st George mom didn't sit in jail whose baby died. I am asking for
similar compassion before people rush to judge. She managed to have a babysitter
for her boys while she did her nails, but not the baby. I do get it. She thought
she left baby at home and the baby was inside all that times change of routine
is what caused a tragedy. We weren't asking for the state to remove the
other children and give the to someone on the LSD family services waiting list.
Yet we have no ability to problem solve the real issues in this case that lead
to a child being left in a garbage can, or even what led to the conception.
Holding a beer bottle does not mean you have the mental capacity to murder
someone, or even consent to get pregnant.
I'm thinking that parental responsibility is a thing of the past.Yes of course. Because nearly every parent is doing these types of things now.
Ridiculous. The vast majority of parents are very responsible. Reading stories
from history there are many where parents did horrible things to their children
but still the vast majority of parents were responsible. Everyone thinks that
the days of history were better than the present and it's just not true.
@ K It has yet to be determined that she has a disability! She is 23 and her
mom said she has never been officially diagnosed with anything! (Make sure you
read all the articles pertaining to this.The problem with drinking a beer when
your pregnant is that it is child abuse or neglect. She wasn't disabled
enough to know she was pregnant. She said she hid it from her mom and dad
because she was afraid of telling them. (That doesn't sound disabled. She
also said she thought if she killed the baby all her problems would be better.
So clearly she thought about the situation. Can't wait to see why she
hasn't been diagnosed till she was 23 maybe! By the way, just because you
can't read or write doesn't mean you can't think properly, I know
because I worked with students as an Aide in all three levels of school. Some
of my students could read or spell anything correctly but they still had
thinking and decision making skills.
K, the point is that the girl was pregnant. She should be prosecuted to the
fullest extent of the law. Plus her parents are only making excuses for her.
K's comments the other day were not kind to say the least.
Frankly, I'm disappointed that this is being featured on the front page of
the Deseret News website. I'm not sure why the fact that the police are
using this photo is newsworthy, since it has nothing to do with the charges
against this young woman. I'm sure she will endure plenty of humiliation
and regret over the weeks and months to come. The prosecution will paint a
picture of her as an irresponsible young mother. There is no reason why the
Deseret News should do the same.
Patriot, has it been determined that she did give consent?Has the
extent of her disability been determined? Perhaps she didn't even know she
was pregnant. Can we stop with the blame until the facts are
NO way should the family get the baby! That's insanity. If she's
mentally handicapped enough to not know she's pregnant or what to do, then
the parents should have kept a closer eye on her. If they can't even take
care of their 1 handicapped daughter, if that's too much for them;
there's no way they could handle a baby that may have countless medical
problems. Keep the poor child away from that house.
I agree with K. Ignorance is bliss. I would hope we are better than Texas when
it comes to incarcerating or executing those with the mental capacity of a
child. Having worked in a care facility and seen first hand the ability of a 230
lb 30 year old person with the mind of an 8 year old who thinks they can drive,
have sex and don't have mental disabilities.
This behavior by authorities and the media is a slap in the face with parents of
children with disabilities and the disabled. Are the authorities and the public
completely clueless when it comes to people with a mental challenge? She got in
and alcoholic cause she had ID saying she is legally old enough. A person with
the mental capacity of an 8 year old is capable of dancing and drinking out of a
bottle or open cup. You have no idea no easy it is for someone to get a person
with a disability to do something. Highly suggestible. Even if she
were not disabled the family should get the baby. Holding a bottle
of beer does mean a person is capable of murder under the definition.
I'm thinking that parental responsibility is a thing of the past. Girl
didn't know what she was doing, but she knew how to party and drink while
pregnant. I hope the baby will be kept safe and not returned to her.
Seems the daughter was mentally sound enough to MAKE that baby.And
if she was not mentally sound, then how could she give consent to have sex?The picture above sure looks to me that she is having a great time (no
remorse).It makes one wonder why the baby wasn't taken at birth
and placed in protective custody - the hospital and doctor already have her
Now there may be new issues. Now the Doctors may be looking at fetal alcohol
syndrome. This story keeps getting worse. We go from outrage over a baby being
dumped in the trash, to sympathy because the mom is special needs and may have
been abused and didn't understand the ramifications of her actions, and
she's lonely and frightened in a jail cell. Now I think if she's
getting herself to a club and drinking and living it up (as these photos
suggest) she has to have more intelligence and awareness of herself and her
actions than we gave her credit for yesterday. Police say they are determining
if the photos are relevant to the case - I'd say I sure hope they are.