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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 27 2014 8:30 p.m. MDT

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firstamendment
Lehi, UT

It's all about marriage equality....right? :) Most gay marriage propagandists argue that polygamy is morally inferior to homosexuality and thus they don't deserve "marriage equality"...I don't get it. The Big Bang etc. obviously disagrees, the Bang only allows heterosexuals the right to have children.

firstamendment
Lehi, UT

I FEEL that polygamy is wrong for us, however, I don't know of any evidence showing that adult polygamy is harmful for children (it has been argued, even in the NY Times, that polygamy IS traditional marriage and I know that past polygamist families produced some of the world's finest, and Utah's past polygamy helped wonderful mothers to also become some of Americas first female Lawyers, Doctors, and such).

There is a lot of evidence that promoting homosexuality is harmful for our children (most of that evidence is suppressed) and there is no real reason for homosexuality to be legally and lawfully promoted or enforced by our governments. So, it is so very odd that polygamy is still a felony, and homosexual marriage is promoted almost everywhere...... strange world.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

Let it be already. They moved, they are no longer in Utah. And I have watched the show, although I don't agree with their life style. They seem like good people. Why when the courts already decided something do we have to go back and make someones life miserable just because we didn't win the first time. You know, I don't like the Yankees, but I don't petition to the courts to go back and have every world series they won replayed until they lose. Let it go already, the Brown's are good people and live a life that is just uncommon to many others. So be it! People don't like me because I am Mormon, and people don't like the Brown's because he lives a polygamist life style. Any man that can handle more than one wife, my hats off to him. Let it go, they are good people not harming anyone. When their children start to become abused, let me know and we can revisit this.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@firstamendment
If you want to explain how to handle a situation in the law and tax code where a man marries three women one of whom is married to three men (you definitely can't legalize polygamy without legalizing polyandry)... go right ahead and explain it. Otherwise, many just support decriminalizing polygamy.

"There is a lot of evidence that promoting homosexuality is harmful for our children (most of that evidence is suppressed)"

In other words, there isn't evidence, and an excuse is needed to explain that.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Polygamy has far more biological, religious, and sociological precedent than gay marriage - therefore those who advocate gay marriage but not polygamy are disingenuous because they are drawing an arbitrary line for less valid reasons. Marriage as a secular institution was designed to protect women and children. If the gender and reproduction elements are removed - then there are NO valid reasons to oppose any adult sexual relationship (even incest which was practiced by European royalty for decades) Gay marriage busts marriage, leaving no reason to legitimately oppose polygamy or adult incest

Marriage should be left as it is: one man one woman

DUPDaze
Bakersfield, CA

The first govenor of the state of Utah would be shocked and amazed at the ill-treatment of the FLDS in his sweet Deseret.

The first founder, promoter and importer of polygamy to the United States would be sad. Angels with swords can be very convincing...

And my two great-granddaddys, who valiantly served their time for feloneous polygamy, would be donating to Kody's legal defense...

My, how one new revelation can turn a whole lifestyle on its head, and family morality upsidedown. No wonder I have so many confused relatives in your fair state! Let's not even start with mine... We give illegals open borders and jobs while making the law-abiding ones jump through hoops and pay a fortune to vote...

funny_guy
Vacaville, CA

Interesting that a man can cohabitate with multiple women and impregnate them multiple times and that is perfectly legal. But when he commits to them and is willing to take responsibility for their children then it becomes a crime. One would think Utah of all places would be more tolerant in this situation, considering its past history with polygamy or is it more of a fundamentalist thing?

techpubs
Sioux City, IA

The courts got this one right. Since he is only married to one woman according to the State Records he is not a Bigamist. The Church or Religious Marriages to the other women do not count in the eyes of the Court since he did not seek a Marriage License from any State.

trekker
Salt Lake, UT

I think its important to point out. Plural marriage is still not legal. The state will not grant you multiple marriage licenses. The Browns lawsuit made it so the State cannot arrest or charge you just for being polygamist. Otherwise they would have to arrest anyone who is cohabiting or committing adultery.

FatherOfFour
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Personally I support same sex marriage, and polygamy/polyandry/polyamory. But why is it that our AG feels the need to fight SSM tooth and nail all the way to the supreme court, but not this one? He always claims that he is just doing his job, upholding the law. But when it comes to polygamy the state feels that the 10th circuit is as high as they need to go.

trekker
Salt Lake, UT

If Utah fights this ruling they need to be prepared to go after anyone that is cohabiting or committing adultery.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

If gay marriage is upheld, there can be no basis for stopping polygamy. The gays have opened a can of worms and there's no telling where it will end. If marriage is based only on the emotional desire of adults, there can be no stopping brother/sister, father/daughter, mother/son, a man to his dog, etc., etc. Consenting adults are all that count and the welfare of children is not a consideration. Society is on the verge of going over the cliff.

Sodom and Gomorrah here we come.

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

This newspaper has made the defense of religious liberty a major cause, with frequent editorial support and reportorial coverage of Hobby Lobby, wedding bakers and photographers, and others claiming government infringement of their rights to freely exercise their faith. Will the paper support the Browns in their fight to live by the tenets of their faith? Judging by the thunderous silence of this paper with respect to the North Carolina clergy lawsuit, I suspect not. Apparently, some faiths are more equal than others.

Vanceone
Provo, UT

I hope the AG decides to appeal.

Setting aside the whole "Is it moral bit" and right now the LDS church says it is not, the fact is that Utah cannot have legal polygamy. If Polygamy is legalized, Utah is no longer a state. Plain and Simple. 1) the Utah Constitution forbids polygamy, and that particular language cannot be amended, and 2) as Scalia points out, Utah's Enabling act--the act that created the State of Utah--sets as a condition of statehood that polygamy cannot be legal.

Thus, if some judge legalizes polygamy, then Utah is in violation of its Constitution and its Enabling Act, and therefore would no longer qualify to be a State. Therefore, legalized polygamy would evict Utah from the Union. And Oklahoma and a few other states as well.
Thus, I hope the AG appeals, because otherwise Utah is probably going to be thrust out of the Union.

environmental idiot
Sanpete, UT

Very interesting that the same practice that the federal government forced Utah to abandon before they would allow statehood is now being defended by the federal government. Go figure.

The next suit should be for the allowance of multiple marriage licenses. As was stated above... If it's good for the gay, it's good for the gander.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

It seems like some commenters are misunderstanding polygamy in the state of Utah. The first wife gets the legal marriage. The other "marriages" are not recognized by the state of Utah. They are "spiritual" marriages. This is the loophole. He is only married to one wife. He co-habitates with the others.
So technically he has only one wife, which is why the state cannot prosecute him for polygamy and win.

FatherOfFour
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Lagomorph,

I have also been surprised that the United Church of Christ lawsuit in North Carolina has not been reported here at all.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

I am confused, I guess...

The Utah Territory had to denounce and pass laws against polygamy to be admitted into the union, and now the same federal government that required all of that is now saying that those same laws are a violation of the Constitution????

techpubs
Sioux City, IA

@Cats;
Stop with the hysterics. Society still has a valid scientific reason for not allowing marriage between a parent and their biological children. And an animal does not have the ability to give consent. On the other hand I do realize that we are still ignoring the fact that just like those who are born homosexual, bisexual, or heterosexual we have people who are born with an attraction to 13 to 17 year old teens.

J.S
Bountiful, UT

There's absolutely no evidence that homosexual couples are a danger to their adopted children. Period.

Besides, comparing gay marriage and polygamy is like comparing apples and oranges. They're both fruits but they're also totally different.

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