Ucon. Ho-hum. Not even worth tuning in. Independence really stinks.
@byu in tusconIf people think the football team from the University
of Utah is the football team from Brigham Young University I dont see how that
is an insult to the Utes? Sounds more like an insult to the intelligence of the
people that actually think that... Heck, I can maybe, just maybe seeing Utah
State and Utah getting mixed up....But Utah and BYU? sounds like you know some
real winners there in Arizona....
Helllo!All the national recognition, WAC Legacy, and people back
east knowing about BYU will not change the following:It will not get
you into a P5 conference.And it will not get you into the playoffs.Show ESPN and anyone that cares to watch that you can beat ranked
teams.I hear the excuse machine for the Uconn loss getting
started.End of story.
Chris,Not sure back East, but Uteology, Chris B, Navel Vet...
taylormade,We're still waiting on your source back east who
predicted byU would be included in some way with the big boys within 4 years.Your silence is deafening!
"he doesn't have much use for any of the other WAC schools"poyman:That's what we've come to expect from
prospect fathers in Backwater, Texas. No wonder Utah didn't recruit
him--the apple probably didn't fall to far from the tree.
@BYUalum"Why so many u commentators and comparisons? ... Why
print comments with all the hate and division from hate-filled
opposition?"Sounds like you don't understand the mentality
of the typical BYU-obsessed ute fan do you? Hmmm... Come to think of it neither
Chrissy, Still not too late for you to jump on the Cougar bus.Its
beginning to roll and soon it will be too late for you to finally really call
yourself a cougar fan !
Please, BYU has been playing tons of teams all over the Midwest, South &
East Coast for four decades and has a well established national reputation. It
is just a fact. A partial list of opponents over the years includes many of the
Premier programs in all of history of College Football, and there have been many
victories sprinkled in against these teams: Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Penn St,
Notre Dame, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Michigan, Ohio
State, Iowa, Texas A&M, Kansas St, Mississippi St, Ole Miss, Wisconsin,
Baylor, Syracuse... This does not includes Western powers such as USC, UCLA,
Stanford, Oregon, Washington, etc. where BYU has played against everyone in the
PAC and beaten many of them over the years.Nobody takes away
Utah's 2 magical seasons and their Alabama Sugar Bowl victory. Bravo. But
to pretend BYU is not well known "in general" (excluding a few
ignoramuses here and there) is foolish.
Yeah..those two BCS wins really put the Utes on the map. What history...what
tradition..what a national reputation they have!! Those two stories will be
retold for generations I'm sure.
@ Kennewickcoug\I agree 100%. Our coaches need to step it up and
quit making mistakes. Anae and Bronco have a knack for making dumb calls at
inopportune times that cost us games (Boise St and Virginia come to mind)and I
think the team has been unprepared and/or uninspired on many occasions
(Wisconsin and Notre Dame to name two). If BYU wants to remain relevant they
gotta win their share of games against "big time" opponents on national
television or the exposure on ESPN becomes irrelevant. As far as I'm
concerned, it begins with the coaches
Tom in MS:I also lived and still travel to the south, specifically LA
& GA several times a year. You are correct that SEC fans love watching
Alabama get embarrassed. I'm a UGA fan so I reveled in watching Utah beat
them (I was still living in Jonesboro, Ga). SEC fans are a funny bunch though.
They loved watching Bama get beat, but at the same time they offered excuses for
them to save face for the SEC. Excuses like Bama overlooked and was
disinterested in Utah because they'd missed out on the NC game. Bama was
missing some of their best players to injury (forgetting, of course that Utah
had injuries as well). The same SEC fans loved watching Oklahoma dismantle the
Tide on one hand, but then offered the same excuses on the other.All
that said, I rarely hear any SEC fans talk about Utah. A Florida Gator friend of
mine still referred to them as a MWC team just last month (only because I
brought them up). And face it SEC fans don't have a long memory...what have
you done lately is a common mantra.
Most college football fans know who Utah is, but most don't care anymore.
Few people outside the west could name anyone on your team, just as most of you
couldn't name anyone who plays for Illinois or Wake Forest. Utah has now
become a team like Indiana, Purdue, Kentucky, and Iowa State. Low on the
conference totem pole. Sure, they'll put together a good season 1-2 times
each decade. But no one else will care, just like most of you won't care if
Kansas makes it to a bowl game. At least in the MWC you guys made some noise,
but now you're almost forgotten.Good or bad, it is what it is.
I don't mean this as a slam, but I grew up on the east coast and
didn't know there was another university in the state of Utah until my
second week at BYU. To my knowledge nobody in my high school class even applied
to Utah for school. Now I know that after a couple BCS wins, things may be a
bit different, but in reality very few people have ever seen Utah play on the
east coast or on true national television. The fewer the amount of people see
Utah, the less people know they exist. If Utah is going to improve their
reputation, they need to be seen east of the Mississippi.
Tom in MS... I think ID Ute is making fun of the BYU fans claiming BYU is so
Funny with all the comments about not knowing Utah football, or confusing them
with another Utah team. I live in ACC country and when I'm asked about
where I am from everyone knows Utah football. In fact, they ALWAYS mention the
two BCS season by the Utes. I am a HUGE Utah fan, but did attend BYU. When I
tell them I attend BYU, they have heard of the school and know it is a good
mormon University, but don't know anything about their football program. In
fact, one person didn't know that they even had a football program.
That's a fact.@Tom in HSI too have talked to a lot of SEC
folks and they ALL know about the Utes!
I thought this article was about UConn and BYU. Why so many u commentators and
comparisons? When I read an article about BYU, it would be nice to talk about
BYU. Why print comments with all the hate and division from hate-filled
opposition? Go find your own school to rant and rave!Go Cougars!
ID Ute, who cares about what they think about football in New Zealand?!
It's not the NFL! Ask any real fan of college football about Utah, and
they will say that Utah beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl a few years ago, and beat
Pitt with Urban Meyer as head coach a few years ago in the Fiesta Bowl. The
real fans will know that.
Actually, the Utes are beloved in the SEC for what we did to Alabama in the
Sugar Bowl. That is still talked about and cherished by them. That is a fact,
as I live in SEC country, and know several people who rooted for the Utes in
that game, and still talk about it.
I was recently on a conference call with a few of my colleagues who reside in
New Zealand. I mentioned that my favorite sports time of the year is just about
to start here in the states, college football. "U.S.college football?"
they asked. "As in BYU? I have heard of the legend of BYU" they replied.
"National champions. Maxwell, Davey O'Brien awards. Oh that sounds
exciting. I have long dreamt of the day I could take my family to the states to
take in a game in Provo".I was blown away. It was truly
remarkable to hear first hand the national brand/relevance that independence has
brought to BYU. Quick side story, I asked the same group of
colleagues, what do you think of BYU's counterpart to the North? They
replied, "are you referring to Utah State or Weber State?" I said,
"no, I'm talking about Utah". " Oh, Utah? Of the WAC? Why would
we follow them? They aren't part of the Independent5". It
was truly remarkable for me to get a glimpse of the global view of football in
the state of Utah.
@ poymanOver half of Texas believe in creationism and another 30% of
Texans believe that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time.Them thinking that Utah is a member of the WAC is not a reflection on Utah....
Further proof the guy in your story doesn't know anything about football
is that UT Arlington is in the Southland Conf., and has been since the early
60s. Also the WAC no longer exists in football. Still, I thought
it was a pretty good story .
I for one am very concerned about this game and I think 16.5 point favorite is
way too much. BYU is a better team but we start slow and I think UCONN is
hungry as the underdog. BYU has lost a lot of games to lesser teams (Virginia,
Utah, Boise)the last few years and i think it is due much to the coaching. The
coaches make a lot of rookie mistakes. the offense has been extremely boring and
weak. Anae is bad and not creative. When we played Wisconsin and Notre Dame
last year we did not look ready for the games. While we didn't get blown
out it was never close and we looked lethargic. The coaches need to motivate
and get the team ready for these games. My wife, who knows nothing about
sports, was watching a game with me and said, "Why does Bronco always look
like he hates his job." I thought it was very telling and I think the team
reflects his attitude/demeanor. I hope we win but I am not confident after the
two last years of under performing teams.
@chrisbThe UConn QB story is an interesting one... I
have a similar story about my time in the Dallas, TX area... I have a non-member
friend in the area that has a highly touted HS football player (a Junior TE) who
is beginning to get a lot of looks from Division I schools... He mentioned that
a lot of local schools (Baylor, TCU, SMU, Rice and even Oklahoma State) had
started to contact him... His HS coach also told him that a BYU coach had
contacted him and asked about him... I asked if he was interested at all in BYU
and his dad told me that he was... I asked if any pac12 schools had made
contact... He said no... I said that's surprising because I had found that
Utah often followed BYU around in Texas looking for prospects... He said (and I
quote) "I don't think that my son would be interested in Utah... now
that UT Arlington has joined the WAC, he doesn't have much use for any of
the other WAC schools"... I had to chuckle. That's what
many Texas prospects think of the utes.
@ StrikerSo you're telling me that the University of Utah is
less well known than Utah St. or Southern Utah or Weber St.? I'm not
Quotes from The Courant - "BYU, a traditional power, will be a
test that allows all to see where the Huskies are after nine months under
Diaco.""A big-time team like BYU coming into the Rent,
Friday night, ESPN, there's no bigger stage," tight end Sean McQuillan
said."Michigan came to East Hartford last year and escaped with
a 24-21 win." UConn's team "broke down" late in the game and is
determined not to let that happen again.
byu isn't included with the big boys like we are so that means ucon will
win them really bad because of it.ucon 57byu 2Go
write it down!
Two,I'm willing to bet it is true. I've lived in three states
in the Midwest and when I tell them I cheer for BYU they know exactly who I am
talking about. If Utah is ever brought up it's either confused with BYU or
they think it's USU or some other Utah team. It's a fact that Utah is
just not nearly as known or famous around the country.
@ BYU in TucsonI'm willing to bet that's not true.
I was just in a meeting with a group of New York Bankers and we started talking
about the upcoming football season. When I mentioned BYU the comment was,
"BYU, I'm sure they will be good this year - they seem to be good in
ever sport they are in!" Everyone agreed. True or not, that was their
perception. I think independence has actually been good for BYU if
only judged on visibility. BYU is certainly known and respected throughout the
country - no matter what the trolls on these boards try to make people, maybe
Mr. Finch predicted that the Utes have a ways to go to build a national
reputation...But maybe they only need time. With a few more losing
seasons in the PAC12 their national and conference reputation will be fairly
taylor,How do I know UConn's QB thought byu played in a good
conference?Because he said so.How do I know Jamaal
Williams thought byu was a division II school?Because he said so.I've noticed you still haven't replied as to who the east
coast media member is who says byu will be included in some way with the big
boys within 4 years?Your silence is deafening!
Agree with Mr. Finch.To New Englanders, BYU is a known commodity
with Danny Ainge running the Celtics and Mitt Romney running for president.Utah? Cold Fusion.
Hate to say it but when Utah Utes play here in Tucson, most people think it is
BYU.Don't know what that says about Utah football, not knowing the
difference and all.At least they know the school BYU although they are no
the visiting team in red that KaDeem Carey runs for 250 yds on.
I agree with you, Spokane. 2 QB system? Sounds like UCONN is about to get
Diaco is a young coach with a bright future. I hope he turns the UCONN program
around but only after losing to BYU. He should have his D ready after facing
BYU the last two years at ND. Those didn't turn out how we'd have
liked but here's to making sure he has a different outcome with his new
team. Go Coug's!
Actually, Chris B, while I often enjoy reading your comments (and your stirring
of the pot), I'm afraid you're quite mistaken this time (okay, and
often many other times). I've lived and worked on the East Coast for quite
a few years now, and in multiple cities/states. As a college football fanatic, I
often discuss the subject with coworkers and friends, ranging in age from
mid-20s to early 60s, and in doing so, I have frequently found that next to
nobody knows anything about my home state Utes. The exception was the year or
two following the Sugar Bowl victory, but even that now seems a distant memory.
On the other hand, I do find that many folks know something about their
counterpart to the south, especially some of their recent players. And, perhaps
to your great surprise, most folks that know something of college football seems
to quite respect BYU. I know it's a sad reality, but Utah has still got a
ways to go to build a national reputation.
Why characterize a noble opponent at the "enemy"? We need a new
"tone" in college athletics.
BYU will crush U Conn. The P5 conference split hasn't been kind to either
I expect to come out of this first game undefeated.
And just exactly is it that you know this information Chris ? National
Championship, National player of the year award, Davey Obrien awards, Outland
trophy winners, Maxwell award winners, National coach of the years awards...etc.
Oh yea, they are very familar with the mighty cougars! ESPN National television
7:00 edt. this friday. Godda love it baby! Get your popcorn out and enjoy !
"How does the team regard BYU "Well, their QB(and likely
others) said that byU played in a good conference. So much like Jamaal Williams
who thought byu was a division II school when he was recruited, the truth is
most of UConn players probably don't know anything about byu any more than
they know about SUU or Utah state or Wyoming. Most football fans on the east
coast don't really follow smaller mid mid major schools, especially ones in
the west. These teams are very unfamiliar with each other