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Peavler: Why the UConn game won't be a repeat of Virginia

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  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Aug. 28, 2014 6:24 a.m.

    I'm guessing BYU will have a .500 season. Win a few lose a few and look forward to next year. Bronco will get blamed when in reality they just don't have the players to get to the next level.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 8:26 p.m.

    I'm afraid I have to agree with Spokane Ute on this one. As a BYU fan I'm sick of hearing excuses also. BYU lost because they didn't make plays and Virginia made the most critical play at the most critical time. I'm tired of the rain excuse...Virginia played in the same conditions. Bottom line, BYU was not mentally or schematically prepared and got beat on the field and on the sidelines in that game...time to move on.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 27, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    CG

    I know, the better team always loses; especially if it's BYU and they don't want to give their opponent credit. The excuses grow old and tiresome. Keep telling your self you didn't lose that day, but the standings say otherwise. a loss is a LOSS!

  • Yale Jimmy Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 4:42 p.m.

    Connecticut will win this game and football season in Provo will once again be over just as soon as it began...T-minus until utter disappointed consumes Utah County and parts of Idaho.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Aug. 27, 2014 4:17 p.m.

    Should be a fun game to start the season.

    Hey Chris, I admit losing to Virginia was a very ignominious occurrence. It shouldn't have happened. Really, Taysome doesn't make that last pass and BYU wins.

    But then again even Stanford is forced to deal with the embarrassment of losing to a team they should have completely destroyed.

  • 71-39 Alpine, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 4:06 p.m.

    @ Spokane Ute and redthunder:

    Yes, both teams played on the same field. They always do.
    But Virginia is much more used to practicing and playing in rainy, wet conditions. It's just an ordinary part of their regional climate, as it is in Spokane.

    Utah, on the other hand, is known as being a desert climate. All the college teams here seldom practice or play in rain.

    Therefore, it was a disadvantage to BYU to play in conditions that that their opponent was much more acclimated to. It's not a "lame excuse", but a simple and easy to understand fact. Only Ute fans seem to have a hard time understanding and accepting it... until Utah ends up losing under similar conditions in a tight game.

    @ Herbert Gravy:

    Until rule changes are officially made, officials can't slow the game up based on their personal wants. The "Go-fast" part of the equation is safe for this season.

    @ Two For Flinching:

    "They will blame the refs".
    How do you know that? You actually don't.
    Sadly, it's just you getting back to making another unfounded and unsubstantiated anti-BYU opinion appear to be fact when it's simply not.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:59 p.m.

    BYU - 35

    UConn - 10

    Go Cougars!

  • CG Orem, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    If you knew anything about football, you'd know that weather can have an more adverse affect on one team than the other. As the stats prove, Virginia wasn't a better team, they just caught a fortunate break at the end to pull out a win in a game they should have lost:

    Total Yards
    BYU 362
    Virginia 223

    Passing
    BYU 175
    Virginia 114

    Rushing
    BYU 187
    Virginia 109

    1st Downs
    BYU 21
    Virginia 14

    As we saw with Utah/Stanford last season, or Utah/Colorado in 2011, or Utah/UNLV in 2007, the better team doesn't always win.

    And don't pull out your tired "on that particular day" argument; despite Utah's upset win, NOBODY, not even die hard Utah fans, actually believes that Utah was a better team than Stanford in 2013.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:33 p.m.

    As posted on another article, it appears that at least SOME officiating crews want to slow the pace of the game which could negatively affect the "go fast, go hard" approach. Any thoughts?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    Ummm didn't both teams play on the same field. Anything, and I mean anything, but admitting you lost to a better team on that day and giving your opponent credit. Always and excuse, always an alibi. Good Grief!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 3:04 p.m.

    Chris:
    Apparently you missed my point that you're quote, "UConn is a much better team than Virginia" doesn't have merit. It lacks merit because in terms of athletes and players Virginia has a quantifiably better team than UConn. You give no valid reason for stating UConn is better other than insinuating that UConn had a better record last year (by one game). Isn't it you and some of your friends that have made it clear that playing a "weekly grind" in a "power conference" is more difficult? I gave you a valid reason why Virginia is actually a better team than UConn...and yes, I compared them to Utah's futility to further the point for a ute fan like you. You speak opinions and nonsense without any good reason or justification for it. How is UConn quantifiably better than Virginia...they don't have near the athletes and didn't win a game last year until their 10th game of the season (btw UConn's 2014 recruiting rank was 117).

    I also never suggested you didn't think coaching was a factor, I simply asked you for an opinion as to why Utah underachieves given their "superior" recruiting.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 27, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    redthunder

    Whether you want to admit it, or not, weather was a factor in BYU's loss to Virginia and here's why:

    - BYU was installing a new offense with a QB who was playing his first game after returning from season-ending knee surgery

    As anyone who knows anything about football knows, rhythm is an important factor in an offense developing moment.

    BYU was just starting to get into a rhythm with their offense in the first half, when a two-hour lightning delay disrupted that rhythm.

    - A muddy, rain-soaked football is difficult to throw and to catch.

    Despite the delay, BYU was still winning the game until a wet, slick ball slipped through the hands of a BYU receiver and was intercepted deep in BYU territory. A few plays later, Virginia scored to pull out a narrow 16-19 win.

    Anybody who claims that weather wasn't a factor in BYU's loss to Virginia either didn't watch the game, or is simply being dishonest.

    On a dry field, in a game not interrupted by a two-hour lightning delay, BYU probably wins that game by at least a couple of touchdowns.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 2:09 p.m.

    @ Rufus T. Firefly

    That is absolutely not true.

    They will blame the refs.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 27, 2014 1:00 p.m.

    BYU is a 17 point favorite. I don't think it will be much of a game; BYU in a route.

  • redthunder Ogden, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    Third, the weather surrounding BYU’s loss to Virginia is unlikely to happen again.

    ----

    Lafe, that is the lamest excuse ever. Weather is an equalizer. Virginia had to play in the rain just like the Cougars.

  • CougOrUte..Naah Nibley, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 11:37 a.m.

    Cougs win this one going away. Bronco is a good enough coach to make sure the Virginia fiasco does not happen again. I can see Hill having a great night running and passing the ball. The Cougar defense is not going to have any trouble with stopping UCONN. I would like to see the Cougs get back to the offense of their glory days. Big opening night for the Cougars, and although I am an Aggie fan I do wish the best of luck to the Cougars for this game.

  • Objectified Richfield, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    @ bigutefan:

    Another utie who struggles with numbers. What a surprise. The article said UConn has not a recruiting class since 2011 better than 65. It also mentioned that last yesr's class was at 117, and were the only 2 numbers given. The average of those numbers is 91, well above the 70's number that you made up. Therefore, BYU does recruit better, and doesn't underachieve with their quality level of recruits... as both Virginia and Utah are known to do.

    @ Two For Flinching:

    That's the first positive comment about BYU I can remember reading from you. Thank you.

    @ Chris B:

    Nothing new. Still sitting around all night waiting for another BYU article to come out, so you can be the first to comment again. Predicable obsession and also very lame.

    If you feel UConn is much better than Virginia, then BYU's soon-to-be win should really impress you and allow you to finally understand that the opening loss last year was a big upset fluke.
    Remember to give credit where credit is due... the day afterward in a comment to an article reporting the game. It's the fair thing to do.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Aug. 27, 2014 8:41 a.m.

    If BYU loses this game, somebody other than players needs to be held accountable. And please, no more excuses about the weather upsetting the rhythm of the offense, blah, blah, blah. That offense had no rhythm in Charlottesville last year.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Aug. 27, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    Ucon will win byu really bad.

    Ucon 97
    byu 8

    Go write it down!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2014 4:13 a.m.

    @Taylor Made

    Best schedule in state hands down (first three games)? Not so fast. Sure UConn is superior to Idaho State but both opponents are weak. Utah has their only automatic win of the season there. BYU should roll but it's not automatic on the road (Eastern Time Zone).

    Even though the Longhorns are rebuilding, Texas is a solid match up. I get that. But when I compare them with Michigan I see it as close to being equal, but I might venture Michigan being the better opponent over Texas.

    And then we have Houston being compared to Fresno State. The Bulldogs are breaking in a new QB and Houston's QB is a year more seasoned after having an impressive season last year. Still, Fresno State might be better. Houston is a good opponent why? I think some BYU fans think Houston is solid because they were 5-0 going into that crazy 47-46 BYU win last year. They went 3-5 after that. Look at Houston's schedule last year. Their first five games are like BYU's last 5 games this year. Talk about cakewalk (Southern University, Temple, Rice, UTSA, and Memphis). Despite the close score, BYU dominated Houston last year.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 27, 2014 12:22 a.m.

    The writer says BYU will win because UCONN has not had a recruiting class ranked higher than 65 in the past few years. That's funny, BYU has been ranked in the 70's range for the past 3 years on the Rivals website, last time I checked 65 is better than anything in the 70's.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 10:52 p.m.

    I think BYU will win, but we have a history of close games to start the season when we are on the road/neutral:

    2006- lost by 3 at Arizona
    2009- won by 1 vs Oklahoma
    2011- won by 1 at Ole Miss
    2013- lost by 3 at Virginia

    I know those are all P5 teams and this is UConn. We usually do very well in season openers at home, as we have won 4 in a row with 3 of those being against power 5 teams (and we dominated 2 of them). But it's a whole different story on the road.

    If history is any indication, it will be a close game and the offense will struggle. In all 4 of the above listed games, both teams scored between 13 and 19 points. Whether it's the #3 team in the nation in Arlington, or the worst team in the ACC, it has always been a low-scoring, close game when all is said and done.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 10:30 p.m.

    Chris B:
    Recruiting wise Virginia is a much better team than Utah with more 4-5 star athletes...isn't that what you're always preaching? 5 stars are better than 4, 4 stars are better than 3, blah blah. However, like Utah Virginia underachieves with their supposedly superior talent. Is it coaching, or poor recruiting evaluations? You're the expert in such things, so we'll await your response with bated breath.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 9:33 p.m.

    Friday weather... Partly cloudy, mild temps and no rain... it's a win! LOL

    Go Cougars!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 7:23 p.m.

    BYU wins this game easily. UCONN is terrible.

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 7:13 p.m.

    @Unreconstructed Reb
    Bring back the bib!

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    Aug. 26, 2014 7:06 p.m.

    Didn't know uconn played football...#kevinollie

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 6:47 p.m.

    I really like the "go long" concept. It was FIRST used by Coach Edwards and from a purely behaviorist perspective it creates the dynamic of putting a team on their "heels." However, it needs to be done early and often. Just one successful completion causes the defense to run back; that opens the short pass across the middle and the run game. I don't mean to tell Anae how to do his job, but a early "go long" mixed with a unpredictable play action will so confuse the defense as to make them ineffective! Remember the days when BYU started slow, didn't move the ball, and the came on strong and couldn't be stopped. It was a result of "go long" and being unpredictable!

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Aug. 26, 2014 4:32 p.m.

    So, BYU gets no benefit by beating a hapless Conn team ranking lower than 100 and loses the whole season if they lose or it's a close game. That is why this is a scary game.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:53 p.m.

    Kick off can't get here soon enough! I love college football!
    GO COUGARS!

  • Tomahawk Red San Francisco, CA
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:37 p.m.

    Be careful Peavler.

    If you're not worried about Uconn being a repeat of Virginia... how bout Virginia being a repeat of Virginia?

    Be very careful. Virginia is improved this year.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:00 p.m.

    This will be a great chance to have a very successful season. Let's hope the Cougars show up for this game, play hard, and get the W! Go Cougars!

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    Aug. 26, 2014 3:00 p.m.

    As long as they don't wear the cursed all-white uniforms!

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:34 p.m.

    Chris B

    "UConn is a much better team than Virginia..."

    And you know this how?

    Real Time RPI's 2014 Power Rankings
    #39 BYU
    #48 Utah
    #93 Virginia
    #115 Connecticut

    Sagarin's 2014 Pre-Season Rankings
    #35 BYU
    #48 Utah
    #85 Virginia
    #101 Connecticut

    Which 7 of Utah's opponents will the Utes be better than this season?

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    Aug. 26, 2014 2:33 p.m.

    Thank goodness UCONN is a much better team than idaho state .Infact the Y has the best 1st three game schedule in the state hands down .