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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 26 2014 4:45 a.m. MDT

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American Fork, UT

That having been said, don't be afraid to explore other options.

Salt Lake City, UT

College was the first time in my life I was exposed to peer-reviewed research, scientific methodology, questioning faith-based beliefs, not treating anything as sacrosanct, and using verifiable, empirical evidence. I found that retaining my belief in the supernatural and divine would involve modifying, altering, or in many cases completely ignoring all of the aforementioned means to intellectually-honest learning. At the same time, it did not make me an amoral person, but in many ways made me more humanitarian. My loss of faith in the divine did not mean a loss of values.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY


My father taught science and was former military. We grew up with the scientific method and a certain amount of rigor in our thought process. But dad always retained his (non-LDS) faith. I suppose that he has been a guidepost in that respect.

Though I am not a scientist, I find in science a wonder and a beauty. But my appreciation of it does not require me to void my faith. And there are many (starting with the father of physics) in that category.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

So, if I understand this article, it is saying you should "stay connected" to religious groups (e.g., Institute) in order to keep your faith.

That figures. I am acquainted with many LDS people who no longer believe but continue to participate because they have close friends and family in the Church. They don't want to lose those interpersonal connections.

Think about what these two ideas imply: that you will be "rejected" if you are discovered not believing what your (so-called) friends and family believe.

Why is the implicit (and often explicit) threat of rejection used to pressure people into remaining in the Church? Why should a person be rejected as a friend or in a relationship simply because they do not believe in the unbelievable stories of a religion?

As nonceleb testified, not believing did not change values or morals. It seems unethical and just plain wrong for people to reject those who cease believing the same. Yet such rejection or threat of rejection is ubiquitous in Utah.

the greater truth
Bountiful, UT


You should also question the so call peer review research, and the results of self professed use of the scientific method.

You may find science is often not as truthful or knowledgeable as they pretend.

Looking at the language they use and in the details you will find many claims they make very problematic.

You can use the scientific method on religion as well, in fact God asks you to test his word to see if it is not true.

There no real reason to lose faith, unless your faith is not really true.

clearfield, UT

A Scientist

And on the other side of it, how many in secular society mock, and make fun of people who believe? I've had seen it and had it happen in the college classroom. Professors pretty much run down any religious believer. And of course from fellow students too. Try starting our in a course of science or philosophy with that hanging over your head.

Salt Lake City, UT

@the greater truth
"You can use the scientific method on religion as well, in fact God asks you to test his word to see if it is not true."

And then everyone who gets a different answer is called insincere.


The objective of religious practice is to nurture the spirit (also called the "heart" in scripture). The objective of academics is to nurture the mind. Both are important. The unfortunate thing that happens to some as they focus on academics is that they fail to nourish the spirit, and the connection between mind and heart decays and withers.

Why is the connection between mind and heart important? Because the best the mind can ever say is, in the words of Richard Feynman, "I'm not wrong yet." That is, the mind's connection to the universe is exclusively through fallible senses. The mind is an ungrounded instrument, to use an electrical analogy.

The spirit, or heart, on the other hand, is connected to the Light of Christ and to the influence of the Holy Ghost, and so the spirit provides a stable ground (electrical analogy) or foundation for the mind. Only the spirit has a connection with absolute truth. Brigham Young's advice to Karl G. Maeser was spot on: "You must not attempt to teach even the alphabet or the multiplication table without the Spirit of God. That is all."

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