In comparing Hill to Chuckie??? I like them both... Chuckie might be better
today because of his passing accuracy but I think that Hill has more upside
(better and more powerful legs and a stronger arm with the capability of having
better vision because of his heigth.
I believe Hill will be a far better player this year than he was last and I
thought that he was pretty good last year... Will he be Heisman material? Maybe
not but I think that he will surprise a lot of folks.As for
BYU's schedule not being tough enough to support a Heisman contender? Maybe
not, but I think that it will prove to be a much tougher schedule than it is
currently getting credit for... I expect Utah State, Boise State, Texas, Houston
and Central Florida to be very strong teams this year... I also think that
Virginia, U Conn, California, UNLV, and Nevada will have much better seasons
than expected... Middle Tennessee will be a Conference USA champion contender...
and that leaves us Savannah State instead of Idaho State... If BYU
plays like they are capable, they could run the table... If Hill is a Thousand
plus yards in rushing, 3,500 yards plus in passing, with a good completion ratio
and a 3:1 TD to INT ratio or better, he very well could be in the top 5 in the
Heisman voting... and BYU could be Big Bowl Bound.
Sorry, Stringer, but it looks like you're projecting your quarterback
controversy onto BYU. NOBODY in the program is giving consideration to Stewart
as the starter. He has performed well in fall camp and has been given his due,
which is great for the team and reassuring to BYU fans. But Taysom is the clear
#1 and does not need to be looking nervously over to the sidelines after every
miscue, living in fear that the next incomplete pass will be his last.
We'll see how Wilson holds up under that pressure.
It's amazing how much a strong offensive line improves the accuracy of any
passer. If the line comes through, so will Taysom.
I watched several games from last year yesterday and I hate to say it, but
Cougars had better have made a lot of improvement in the last year. If Kyle Van
Noy had not been at BYU, they may not have made a bowl game. It will not be a
fun year, if we once again have to watch so many QB runs and very little in an
offensive game plan. Taysom Hill was really a very poor passer last year. I
hope all the hype is more than bluster. Go Cougars! Every player is needed for
every play, even against this poor competition. If they fail to beat Texas,
then I don't think there will be much to carry on about.
I'll tell ya what for, Hundley at UCLA s the best in the Nation! I saw him
spank my Huskers last year. The Ute's, and likely, everyone else will get
schooled by him. I doubt Wilson makes it passed game 4 for Utah, which might be
a good thing for them. I still predict a 3 and 7 season for Utah, 10 and 2 for
USU and 11 and 1 for BYU!
One thing's certain: no other QB at a Utah school has as much potential to
improve as does Hill. We already know he can run, and he certainly has a strong
arm, and he has good receivers to throw to. The question marks for the Cougs
are the O-line, whether Hill can improve his passing accuracy, and whether he
can take fewer licks. The thought of BYU's intermediate passing game
opening up the run has me salivating for the season to start. The BYU-USU game
should be a good one.
Gored,Alabama sos-95,Oklahoma sos-93, BYU sos-97 . Alabama ranked #2 and
Oklahoma ranked #3 . Looks like to me the Y is hanging with some pretty tough
company ! Stop the stupid sos talk just because the u seams to have a tough
schedule. To bad for them,as the toughest SOS schedules end up being nothing but
losing records that no body cares about at the end of the year !
@ CougFaninTXMy rankings would go like this:1. Keeton2a. Hill2b. WIlsonBoth have a lot to prove this
season, but I don't think one has been significantly better than the
other.We won't know which back up QB's are better unless
we see them in live action. Taking snaps in a game is a whole different animal
than it is in practice with a green jersey on.
It takes a special combination of ignorance, bias, and wishful thinking to rank
Taysom Hill higher than Chuckie Keeton, as CougfaninTX has done. Even if his
accuracy does improve by 10%, as he believes will happen, it still won't be
as good as Keeton's. I do believe that he can improve his accuracy and
become a better quarterback, but he is not on the same level as Keeton, and it
is nonsensical to think otherwise. Chuckie is hands down the best QB in the
state, but I think Hill is a great playmaker and will improve, and if Wilson can
stay healthy, all the teams in Utah could have great seasons. Hoping for the
best for everyone
@BlueHusky "@CougFanInTexas: I'm curious as to why you think Hill will
never be an elite passer. Seems like he has a cannon. Why would he not get
better with experience, a la Steve Young?"I'm not sure
I'd put Young in the category of elite passer (i.e. Elway, Manning,
Montana, Detmer, McMahon). I know Young had one of the highest QB ratings in
the NFL, but the offense was tailored to his strength, throwing < 20 yards
down the field. I get worried when I hear Anae say we are going to
throw long and often this year. Sure Hill has plenty of arm strength but I
haven't seen him consistently put a 40 yard pass on the numbers. I think
Hill could destroy defenses by throwing short. Let the defenses load the box
then throw short passes just beyond the LBs and watch our athletic receivers
blow past corners and safeties.@Two For Flinching - "@
CougFaninTX. Wow. You Texas boys sure know a lot of about football." Ah, you're making me blush. Thanks! Just curious how a Ute fan
would rank them, objectively?
Tysom is playing at a disadvantage because the go fast go hard does not allow
him time to properly read the defense.
@ ekute,You said "They might blow out 3 teams at les but that
won't establish anything."That is a lot better than the
Utes being blown out by 3 teams at RES. That will establish something for you
boys on the hill and that is another losing season.
Re: Blue HuskyThere are a lot of QB's out there with cannons
for arms that aren't very good. I think the jury is still out as to
weather he has "taught himself" to read defenses and make decisions
better and be able to throw with accuracy. According to most BYU fans that have
watched him in fall camp they don't all seem to be convinced that he has.
There's already a lot of noise being made in favor of Stewart. Let's
see how he passes against theTexas defense.
Hill is Me 2.0
I find it interesting that there are 2 articles that came out at the same time,
one about BYU's QB and one about Utah's QB and there are 11 comments,
3 of which are Ute fans, commenting on BYU but zero comments by Ute or BYU fans
on the other article (at least at this current time). Make your own conclusions.
However, back to the article at hand, I feel that Taysom will have a great year
but do not believe he will be contending for the Heisman. This year may set him
up for contending in the next years Heisman race, it all depends on how well he
does this year. Truly wishing all Utah schools have great years,
just hoping BYU has the best.
I think BYU's success will depend on how Hill's passing improves from
last year, we know he can run, now we have to see him prove he can be a pass
first QB and use his legs only as needed or when the D forces him to. I was
optimistic about his improved passing but the last scrimmage his passing was a
disappointment and I fear he will revert back to pulling the ball down and
running to much instead of keeping his cool and looking and finding his 2nd and
3rd receivers. If he wants to play pro he needs to develop as a passer and force
himself to look for the 2nd and 3rd receivers, I hope he realized that and makes
the changes he needs to.
One only had to read the headline to know that about 40% of the comments would
be of the crimson tinged "criticism" type.I noticed that no
one rebutted CougarFan's ratings for all QBs in the state of Utah. Wilson
#9?Me, I can't wait to see how UCLA's Hundley does vs. the
Utes and Wilson/Thompson vs. my Bruins.
2ferBYU fans certainly know a lot more about quarterbacks than Utah
fans.When was the last time Utah had a National Hall of Fame
@ CougFaninTXWow. You Texas boys sure know a lot of about football.
goredGotta laugh at your delusion.Hill will be well
tested by Texas, Houston, Utah State, Central Florida, and Boise State, and if
he passes the test, he'll be included amongst the nation's leading
quarterbacks for post-season honors.
They need a third QB
They might blow out 3 teams at les but that won't establish anything.
@CougFanInTexas:I'm curious as to why you think Hill will never
be an elite passer. Seems like he has a cannon. Why would he not get better with
experience, a la Steve Young?
From the highlight pictures on all the sports programs I have watched this fall,
it appears to me that Taysom is throwing nice spirals on a string, and I look
forward to a break out year from him in the passing department. I hope he
spreads the ball around like McMan (sp) did. I also hope that BYU uses more
miss-direction and roll out plays to give Taysom more weapons. I hope that BYU
can blow out a few teams this year to establish themselves as a power team.
I REALLY wish we could count on Anae to implement a more pass-oriented attack.
Sorry, but I'll have to see it before I believe it. Last year was
pathetic! Just run to set up another running play.....ugh! Then run some more!!
What are those guys doing running passing routes downfield?? Another running
It's too bad that Hill will not be able to be tested this year with
byu's incredibly weak schedule. Any impressive stats he puts up will be
overshadowed by the fact that he's playing UNLV, Cal, Virginia, UConn,
Savannah State, etc.Heisman? Yeah, right.
There's not another QB in the state I'd rather have leading the
offense. And if I had to rate the top QBs in the nation, Taysom would be in my
Top 10. I don't expect his arm to ever have the accuracy of an elite QB,
but I do think his accuracy will improve by at least 10% over last year. Even
though his arm is not prime time, his other abilities make him invaluable. My
ranking of the QBs in Utah are:1. Taysom Hill2. Keeton3. Olson4. Stewart5. Cantu6. Thompson (I expect him to
be the Utes starter by game 3 or 4.)7. Joe Hlll8. Kuresa9.
Wilson10. Green11. Clark
I'm expecting Taysom to have an amazing season reminiscent of the BYU
quarterback greats of the 70's and 80's.Go Cougars!
Although as a whole I have been disappointed with BYU's offense these last
few years, and disappointed in Hill at times, overall I think Taysom Hill is an
incredible football player. Say what you want about his throwing last year, he
is a playmaker. He was one of the few on the offense that was consistently good
and did his best to win the game. His throwing will get better.He is
on the Heisman watchlist for a reason, and believe he was named one of the 14
best football players on some sports site (NFL, I think). I am excited to see
what he can do.Go Cougars!