Families of two Utahns say both were happy and pleased to be on missions
This so sad to hear about. My thoughts and prayers go out to the
missionaries' families and friends.
Our hearts, thoughta and prayers go out to the families of these fallen
missionaires. Surely they were called to the other side to continue their
To anyone who has had a kid in the mission field news like this is a sock in the
stomach. Commenting does no good of course, except that it allows us to share
I couldn't help wondering what "no sign of foul play" would have to
do with the sudden deaths of two healthy young men. Checking the Taiwanese news
sites, I found a mention of the incident. According to one website (ETtoday),
police suspect they died of carbon monoxide poisoning, caused by an unvented
gas-fired demand-type water heater. (Slightly awkward Google
Translate version of page's original Chinese text: "due to the water
heater in the room, the police preliminary judgment, when a man suspected of
taking a bath which did not open the window, cause carbon monoxide filled the
house, both died of poisoning, will be reported to clarify the cause of death
autopsy.")I would hope that when missionaries are sent out, they
would be given safety tips appropriate to the types of lodgings they could be
expected to encounter in their mission areas. This seems like avoidable
negligence on somebody's part.
If there was "no foul play" in the Taiwan incident, it was likely due to
carbon monoxide. It is difficult to get missionaries to change the batteries in
their CO or smoke detector when it "chirps". Perhaps missions should
insist on extra batteries to be stored in case of an inoperable CO or smoke
May God give their families peace.
This is such sad news. I know the Vea family for many years from their time in
the Aurora Stake and the Denver Stake. Although there is great faith involved
in these moments there is also a great plan that Heavenly Father has for each of
His children. Nancy has lived a happy life and is gone for a period but there
will be a reuniting that will be glorious. Heavenly Father has provided us with
sealing powers that will seal families together forever.To the
families of each of these families I know that these missionaries--your
children--are gone but they will not be forgotten, and they will not be lost.May God bless you in your recovery and comfort you in your times of
In 1989, Elder M. Russell Ballard addressed the subject of missionaries dying in
the field. "To all parents, family members, and friends of missionaries who
have lost their lives while in the service of the Master, we extend to you our
love, gratitude, and prayers for comfort and peace."
Please, people, do not make U-turns on expressways and freeways. Take the exit,
even if it is several miles away.
Just waiting for the public statements reassuring everyone "it is still
safer to be a 20 year old missionary than a 20 year old not on a mission."
Thank you Elders, and Sister Vea for your service.
Having lived in countries and traveling to others in Europe, Latin America and
Asia that use various types of heating methods, water and home, safety for those
that may not be accustomed to the methods locals use is a definite
consideration. Younger missionaries may not understand all the aspects since
they haven't gone to college or worked away from home. Missionaries need a
good safety education for even the locals that may know the dangers but may not
know the foreign missionaries don't know those dangers. Some don't
use reflective vests that may be a common practice with many bikers, day or
night on highly trafficked two-lane roads with no shoulder with chuck holes.
Vehicles dodge these holes to avoid the holes but don't see missionaries on
bikes with dark suits and no reflective protection. The problems with carbon
monoxide, electricity, traffic problems and health issues can be taught and
learned but takes time and energy. The safety and welfare of missionaries is an
ongoing process with younger missionaries that haven't had a year at work
or college on their own to learn about non-protective world environments away
from their parent's guidance.
I have two sons who have served, another one currently serving and all have said
that if they died in the mission field, they felt fairly confident they would
receive a ticket straight to the Celestial Kingdom. One even had the 4th verse
of "Come, Come Ye Saints" as the "scripture" for his wall
plaque. He was that willing to put himself in the hands of the Lord for those
two years and had perfect faith that God knew what was best for him. He came
home safe and sound, BTW.As far as these 3 missionaries goes,
I'm not saying it was "their time", after all, accidents are
sometimes just accidents. It's hard to tell parents who's children
have such promising futures and Patriarchal blessings that it was
"God's will". But there is the millennium for all things to be
sorted out and "restored" to them and their parents. Somehow Heavenly
Father will find a way to use their deaths to further His kingdom and bring
souls of those left behind, unto Christ.Prayers for the families.
I know the feelings these families must feel in the loss of a son or daughter
serving on a mission. If I may add some words of comfort. The Lord has need of
righteous missionaries on the other side as well as this side, I think the real
test of most challenges is can we accept Heavenly Fathers will? We know not
reasons why some are taken and others not, I had a granddaughter that died in a
car accident, only one with a seat belt on, 2 died of 5, 3 were injured quite
seriously. My wife and I wept and as we prayed for answers, in our minds we got
the conformation that she was ok and not to worry about her. I testify we can
get revelation and a relieve of mind in these cases, the Lord has said I shall
not leave you comfortless, believe in that and you will feel the presence of
those taken and know they are needed and are fine on the other side.
This incident is exactly reminiscent of what happened to two missionaries who
were serving in the Romania Bucharest Mission 4-1/2 years ago. Those
missionaries died due to CO poisoning when they went to sleep after accidentally
leaving the gas-heater on. If these two left the gas running on their unit,
then it is highly possible that this is the certain cause. I remember when I
was in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine on my mission and we had one of those heaters.
Fortunately, the one time that we forgot to turn off the unit was in the morning
after our showers were done and we went out in the morning to do some shopping.
We returned several hours later and the fumes hit us almost instantly. Thank
goodness that we were on the top floor of our apartment building and had windows
everywhere. The CO was worse than the noxious gas chamber that I had to go
through when I went through Navy boot camp.
My heart goes out to the families of each of these young people.JWB:
I agree with you. The need for detailed and intense safety training is
particularly needed now that we have even younger missionaries being sent out.
Many of these young people come from countries with strong consumer safety and
building code standards, and are being assigned to areas where these protections
do not exist. Without training and education on the risks and safety measures
needed in their specific countries and regions, these young people are exposed
to dangers, in many cases, that they cannot be adequately focused on.Without a change in the safety training culture in the missionary program, we
will continue to see the kinds of "accidents" that we continue to see
with some regularity. We love the church and the missionary program. It does a
lot of good in the world for those who serve and those who are served. We have
upped the bar for missionary prep in recent years. Let's now up the bar on
safety training and do a better job helping our missionaries return home safely.
nothing can prepare a parent for this type of news. Nothing. First of all let me
say how deeply sorry I am for both sets of parents who lost their missionary son
or daughter. These young men and women are at the prime of life on a mission
both spiritually and physically and losing them is hard to wrap your mind
around. I can't begin to understand the pain that must be felt by both
families. When you send a missionary out into the field you keep
tucked away in the far corner of your mind the potential for this type of thing
happening and perhaps that is part of the reason why it is so hard to say
goodbye at the MTC. There is some solice in the fact that these missionaries
were happy and doing great things in their life at the time of their death. I wish the Church could make missions completely safe but the nature of
this life and the world in general make that impossible.
RE: JWB "Missionaries need a good safety education..." Every mission
needs a safety officer.
Maybe it would be helpful to include some safety instructions in the missionary
papers the YM/YW receives for their mission. Even a website for them to go to
with a video covers many things that a missionary needs to know concerning
safety issues. It's hard to fit it all in at the MTC. My heart
goes out to these families and find my testimony increasing with the faith of
these families.With the amount of the number increase in
missionaries since the age change I'm sure we may see more incidences of
accidents and deaths but the percentage will remain the same I'm sure. May the Lord watch over all our missionaries and their families.
Death in apartments or homes can come from faulty gas lines - it happens here.
My condolences go to the families of all three families, and I pray they may
feel the peace of a loving Heavenly Father. I feel they left this earth in the
JWB Kaysville, how true that is. Training does not stop in the field. It
continues even on the mission and the quality of life experienced sometimes in
the west does not provide adequate awareness when young people travel to other
I pray for the driver of the van who now for the remainder of his life has to
live with the poor decision he made to make a U-turn in an unsafe and
unauthorized place. And also a shame that the sister was not wearing a seat
belt.To those calling for training, we do not know that there was in
fact, training. We also do not know, and will never know, if one of the
missionaries just made a mistake and forgot to do what was necessary. It
happens, we are human.@niner No one has to. You just did.
Younger missionaries are so busy and involved learning a language, adapting to
living conditions, cultures and doing as much as they can during their 18-months
to 2 years of serving The Lord, the people and their families. The missions
approve and inspect apartments or homes where missionaries live periodically to
ensure it is safe and in a safe area. Bicycles break down or need the Cub Scout
or Merit badge checklist to ensure they are safe, periodically as the
missionaries pray to be safe and know they don't want to get hurt.
However, some people don't necessarily think safety is macho and if parents
and others believe in safety they may learn it is good to be safe. No
missionary wants to think of one of their companions getting hurt. Safety is
also an attitude or a culture in life. I believe the Boy Scouts don't have
a safety merit badge anymore, so that process is gone for young men, also. OSHA
isn't a good word for some but basic safety pays in lives saved and time
lost saved and few injuries or health issues. Workers and their families can
enjoy life together, longer. Safety pays.
I am hoping that the Elder Connor Thredgold Memorial Fund would in part help pay
for the needs of Elder Yu Peng Xiong's family as they bid an earthly
farewell to him.
Is there a photo of Elder Xiong? We should also acknowledge his loss a bit more.
This is such sad news.
Today I was driving two missionaries and after we started driving, I mentioned
to them about the Sister, and immediately they snapped their belts on. In the
past, I had to mention to missionaries about fastening their seat belts before
they used them. They must not have been trained by their parents to wear them
as a passenger. Parents help through preparation for missions long before their
children go on missions. Vests, seat belts, carbon monoxide detectors, and
other devices for personal protection. I remember how hard it was to find good
housing for our sisters on my mission in a safe location. At least missionaries
have cell phones and can connect with their investigators, mission and church
local leaders. Just one more step for q big city of 80,000 missionaries spread
throughout the world. Deseret Industries have a very good program along with
the other Presiding Bishopric areas of responsibilities. Section
134 in the first part has about government, of and outside the Church providing
for safety and welfare and the Church moves forward to bless all people through
basic principles of this life and beyond. Families can be together forever is a
I am the parent of a missionary who will soon be serving in Taipei. I am sending
him a carbon monoxide detector today. There are missionary deaths from carbon
monoxide poisoning every few years. CO detectors are cheap, small, and readily
available. It is time, and past time, for the church to add this essential item
to the list of required missionary supplies. It would be easier than writing
condolence letters to the grieving families. Let's hope these elders are
the last to die from such a preventable cause. My heart goes out to their
re:Schizachyrium scopariumyou are smart to send the CO dectector
however this really ought to be the Church doing this for ALL missionary
apartments. I am guessing there will be lots of parents doing the same thing as
you. Hopefully the church will quickly make a policy change and require every
approved missionary apartment have a CO detector installed and working.
avoidable.and completely tragic.have we not seen enough missionaries
die already the last several years?
Let's hope it works with the voltage. Are they not representatives of the
church? They don't decide where they live. It should be standard, if they
are standard in the country they are serving. Why are adults who are
called upon to convert people and are in fact adult clergy driven around? Why
are they not driving themselves? If they drove themselves they would both be in
the front wearing belts. Why are there so many rules? The military doesn't
have this many rules. Too many rules means there are too many to follow.
Simplify. She could very well not have been wearing a seatbelt in the back seat
of a van with a group of students in a college town. Or in her families car.