Amen to all who have commented using a measure of common sense, a quality our
society is rapidly losing sight of. Those who don't possess it are enabling
ridiculous, over bearing rules, regulations, and laws on all of us.
I'm still confused over the need to point out the student was diabetic. Is
diabetes a disability rendering the student unable to resist insisting on pizza
from the trash even after being informed of it's location? Let's see,
a low paid cafeteria aide instead denies the pizza to the diabetic student and
is then faced with an article that reads, "Diabetic Student denied pizza at
school cafeteria." Please.
@koseightyI totally disagree. As Americans, we waste so much it is
criminal - and I'm not even talking about the "starving kids in
Africa". School waste is government waste-we are taxed for all those
"leftovers". I want my tax dollars to be used more efficiently, thank
you. We all work hard for our money and I hate that so much of it goes down the
drain - a decision that is taken away from us once it leaves my control.Keeping leftover anything in school (faculty room even) refrigerators
until the next morning's cafeteria prep - for situations just like this -
would give Principals the freedom to meet the needs of the kids and adults they
serve. Nothing molds if the policy is that nothing is kept more than 24 hours.
Recently a Cracker Barrel employee gave yesterday's muffins to a homeless
guy and lost his job over it. Crazy. How many homeless could we feed from
leftover school cafeteria food? In my High School an old woman came regularly
to pick through the outside trash after lunch. No one objected. Less waste and
she lived another day on some over-privileged kid's uneaten sandwiches.
Thank goodness for our first world problems.
"This isn't the first story like this I've seen in the News in
recent months. It seems Utah school districts are having a hard time finding
good, responsible people to staff school cafeterias.
Why throw out the pizza? Because lunch rooms aren't equipped
to handle leftovers. Are we willing to double the storage space, including walk
in refrigerators and freezers? double kitchen staff or hours in order to
somehow manage left overs? Managing left overs is time intensive. Someone has
to serve it. Someone has to decide who is "deserving" of it -- the poor
kids? the athletes? the staff? Or, should we just plan enough food to have
left overs for every body? Plus, left overs have to be monitored. How long
before the pizza goes bad? Not only must it now be stored, it must be thrown
out at some point. Old moldy left overs are one thing in your home fridge and
something else sitting next to today's food in a school's fridge.As a society, we hate paying living wages to service workers. Think of
the cost of doubling the kitchen costs at every school in Utah -- and for what?
Leftovers?America throws out 40% of the food we purchase. Why?
because it's easier and therefore cheeper.
Maybe the Mother would have prefered that her daughter suffer the consequences
if having a diabetes episode?The Lu ch worker did the right thing.
She should receive a metal fir saving that student.Maybe it's
time to sue the parents for not providing "fail safe" lunch.
I am with most of you about throwing away pizza in the first place. Seems
totally wrong. That never happens in my house. And I am not totally convinced
that the location of the pizza constitutes in the trash anyway.Having said that, I can see why parents might want to complain about the
"eating out of the trash" that their child was bragging about. The fact
is that insulin is not food specific and the lunch room must have had other
options than eating pizza. The child's insistence that she get pizza and
only pizza is the culprit here. Even orange or apple juice together with a slice
of bread would be sufficient to prevent an incident from having taken the
insulin. She took the insulin so she could have pizza but that doesn't mean
that only pizza works for the sugars needed.
If the child's condition is so precarious that attending to her cuisine
needs can force a lunch manager out of her job, the child's parents should
be responsible to provide all her meals.
@ Eliyahu"The only question is why a perfectly-good unopened and
uneaten pizza is being thrown away?"I totally agree. The
biggest kids in the school / the after school extra-curricular athletes who
complain that school lunch portion sizes are too small should for sure get a
crack at that left over pizza. Even 6th grader's in elementary school
would appreciate another slice once everyone else has been fed. Not to mention
the low income skinny kid who know's he's going home to an empty
fridge and cupboard for the weekend. Another example of government waste, or
lack of common sense. There's always someone willing to eat cold pizza -
even school lunch whole wheat cardboard crust pizza. And don't go all
"federal mandate school lunch caloric intake" on me. Some kids just
plain need more calories to feed their muscle mass - bone dense - high
metabolism bodies. No two kids need exactly the same thing.
To the "outraged" parent: where is your responsibility in all of this?
Why didn't you send your child to school with something to nosh on because
the child is diabetic? I applaud the quick-thinking lunchroom worker who
"saved" the child. Maybe, rather than demonize the lunchroom worker a
humble "thank you" would be in order... And we wonder why in some
sectors of this beautiful country people are slow to help...It seems the Good
Samaritans are often the ones who are criticized, sued, etc.
Two things seem reasonably clear:-The lunch aide made what in retrospect
was the best decision available. Props to her.-The lunch aide is going to
lose her job over this. It's the quick and dirty solution for the school
and satisfies the "outraged" parent.
As was made clear in other letters and in the story, no harm was done. The only
questions I have are why a perfectly-good unopened and uneaten pizza is being
thrown away, and why is it necessary to put someone on leave over it? Call her
into the office and say, "don't do that again", and leave it at
Everybody should take a chill pill. And no, we are not entering the Dark Ages.
I've tasted the "Michelle Obama" cardboard pizza. The trash really
is the best place for it! LOL BUT, I'm glad the girl was able
to keep her insulin leveled. Anyone live by the "5 second rule" at
home? Sheese - I'd wager the inside of the pizza box on the top of the
garbage can is probably lots less germy than many of our floors at home.
This isn't a news story it's a Seinfeld episode.
There is no worse feeling than having low blood sugar. Your body starts to
tremble and then you start thinking unclearly. I wouldn't have any problem
grabbing a piece of pizza from a box in the trash to prevent a low.
School lunches are socialism at work. Right?But care to guess which
Secretary of Agriculture told the President that "no child should be hungry
in a nation as wealthy as America"?None other than that famous
socialist, Ezra Taft Benson.And JCS, you didn't tell us what
Lincoln would have said about this situation.
This is a ridiculous story - the lunch manager pulled off a McGuyver save to
help this girl and look what foolishness comes of it. This is as crazy as those
complainers who say we should not have Daylight Savings Time because it is too
much of an inconvenience. We live in the best of times, don't let anyone
tell you any different. We certainly don't have to get up in the middle of
the night to go to the outhouse to relieve ourselves and we have clean running
water and electricity for lights and cooking and heating. Are we going to hear
complaints there was a worm in some poor child's apple in the next story?
The food manager was not the only one involved as the aide must have been there
also, as she was reassigned. The pizza box had only been there minutes if not
seconds when this occurred . The medical decision had to be made based on the
diet and insulin and what was available. The student has some responsibility in
this process as the student was late to lunch. Litigious societies
are fed not by low paid staff members but by the media or even social networking
ambulance chasers. News or yellow press?
How time sensitive was it that she eat the pizza? Could the principal have run
to the pizza place and got another pizza quick? I'm not very well educated
on diabetes - but according to previous posts, it's pretty crucial she get
the right thing post insulin.
Ditto to what's been said by sisucas, Riverton Cougar, and others.
First, if there was pizza left over, someone should have eaten it, rather than
tossing it in the trash. What a waste. Not hungry now? Save it for later.Second, a few years ago, I found a pizza box in the trash of a college
classroom. Just on a hunch, I opened it and found over half a pizza inside. I
figured, since they empty the trash cans daily, it must be from the previous
night, probably a student party. I ate the pizza. No harm done.
After reading this article, I really believe the lunch manager did have the best
interest in that student in mind, and the student and the mother really blew it
out of porportion. The pizza was still in the box untouched and just sitting on
top of the garbage can, not inside as the title of this article would have
everyone thinking, still edible in my opinion. I have to side with the lunch
manager for caring for the student and seeing the big picture of what could have
happened. Also maybe this student needs to eat more healthy if she's
diabetic so this won't happen again or even better her mother should pack
her a lunch from home instead of causing a big fuss for someone trying to help
"Lunch manager on leave"I surely hope they are getting paid!
I'm more outraged that the school is giving into their fear of the
hypersensitive public instead of having common sense.Socialist
debates aside, school-provided food is a non-obligatory service in any system.
That means that no one did anything wrong except an under-prepared parent (which
anyone can be guilty of). Instead of focusing on guilt, let's focus on how
to avoid things like this reasonably and fairly.Reinstate the lunch
manager. Give her a medal for caring more about the kid AND being honest about
what was being served. In the future, she can call mom and say "you have two
options... a box that touched a garbage can or you can come bring your kid a
meal because you didn't pack one". That sounds harsh, but I'm not
saying it to judge the mom. I'm just saying it's an option we
shouldn't discount.Perspective people, perspective! :)
It's funny that if the pizza box were sitting two feet away from the
garbage can instead this would not be a story.The headline makes it
seem like a worker went dumpster diving to give a student pizza. However,
reading the story we find that the girl begged and begged for it (as sisucas
pointed out, she had good reason) until the worker gave a pizza that was still
unscathed.However, I'm sure some policy was broken. Spirit of
the law, letter of the law. I think the letter of the law will rule out on this
one, unfortunately. That's the world we live in.
JCS:Please relax. I'm sure the sun will come up tomorrow.
Have a nice day...
After reading the story I have to disagree with John Charity Spring. I think
the person who fed her the pizza (albeit from a pizza box left on top of a can)
was thinking logically. The student is diabetic and, anticipating her lunch
meal of a pizza slice, already gave herself insulin. The potential for the
student's blood sugar to drop to a seriously low level was there. If I was
in the same position I might use some discretion to get the student some food.
I don't know how panicky this student was, and if she demanded a pizza
slice, and I knew it was left-over pizza in a pizza box (on top of the garbage,
I wouldn't sit around worrying if I had violated some policy. I'd
give the girl some pizza. It doesn't say the person pulled a pizza slice
out of the garbage can and it doesn't say it came off some kids thrown away
plate. Don't know if this is news worthy. I do agree Western Civilization
is crumbling though-but for different reasons.
This is not a story. This little girl got a dose of insulin calculated for
pizza, a food that is very high in simple carbohydrates. Once she had taken
the insulin there were two choices, feed the girl a very high carb food, or let
her insulin bottom out her blood sugar, which is far more dangerous. The pizza
was not exposed to anything; it was still in the box! This lunch server did the
right thing in my opinion. She faced a big challenge and made a hard decision
which was the right decision. Our society needs to chill out. Why does
everybody have to be outraged all the time?
The school gives the pizza and gets sued. The school doesn't give the pizza
and gets sued. No matter the action taken, the result would end up the same. Has society fallen so low that we can't eat pizza (fully contained
in the box, on the very top of the pile, and unscathed) out of the garbage can?
Day old pizza must also be an abomination! The same people
complaining would support donating day-old/newly expired canned food, bread, etc
to the homeless.
Has society fallen so low that feeding children garbage no longer even causes
school officials to pause? Apparently so.No serious person can deny
that Western Civilization has truly reached its lowest point in several
millennia. In a time when the ignorant masses consider high culture to be
sitting around in sweatpants watching hot dog eating contests to be high
culture, there is great reason for concern. Essentially, the great croc-wearing
hordes are dragging society into depravity. Our society is rapidly approaching a
new Dark Age. This process will soon reach the stage of being irreversible
unless we act fast to protect what little refinement still exists in society.
We must stop this slide into mediocrity by insisting that school
officials have common sense. This was apparently lacking here in this garbage