Published: Thursday, Aug. 21 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Marijuana is already available here in Utah and has been since Utah was
conceived. The problems claimed to be unleashed are already unleashed. Did Jay
want those boys from Texas thrown in jail? He didn't mention if he wanted
that. Here in Utah we could just throw them in jail. I don't want that,
and the majority of Americans dont' want that either as it turns out.
"This might not have happened if the president of the United States had
decided to enforce a federal law against marijuana use."What
happened to states rights and smaller federal government?
I was at a fast food place, and I saw 2 guys...drinking a beer!Oh brother, It would seem that someone must not realize that prohibition
was reversed nearly 100 years ago, and that alcohol [a much more dangerous
drug] is legal in all 50 states.FYI -- Utah deaths per year --
perscription drugs - 534Guns - 510Automobile accidents -
420marijuana - 0
The same arguments could be made to rid the country of legal alcohol and
tobacco. However, these drugs are considered safe and are widely, legally
available.There are hundreds of legal prescription drugs available
and in use by people of all ages. These drugs treat a variety of legitimate
afflictions, but have the same effects as those described by this LTE. However,
I don't see any movement to take away the extraordinarily profitable
ventures of big Pharma to rid the country of life altering addictions.If you don't like marijuana, don't smoke it. Same goes for legal
booze and cigarettes. You might even try going cold turkey on those little
happy pills, if it would not drive you to suicide. Illegal drugs, like alcohol
and tobacco are public health problems that should be legally available and
regulated. And spend some time analyzing the over medicated country for a
change. Happy pills can be every bit as deleterious.
A silly, subjective editorial. Pot is not a social experiment, decriminalizing
it is. Legalizing pot in CA & WA has had many positive effects and the sky
has not fallen as predicated by opponents like Jay. As someone who travels to
these states on business and has friends and family living in both you'll
find most people happy with the legalization and the outcome up to this point.
More states will soon be following suit because of the sucess of decriminalizing
it as experienced in Washington and Colorado.
I wish Utah would grow up and join them, in a celebration of Freedom and
Liberty, Lord know, Utah could use the revenue for education. To each
they're own, intoxicants exist in all cultures, always have always will.
Alcohol consumption is far worse than marijuana use.
I don't use marijuana, (or booze for that matter), so I really
couldn't care less whether its' legal or not.HOWEVER;
we've spent billions (trillions?)over the last 6 decades trying to combat
its' use. All to basically no avail.How many more billions
should we spend? Billions that we don't have BTW!Fiscal
conservatives like myself should just give up and cut our losses.We
can no longer afford to fight the "war on drugs". Just like we
can't afford to be the worlds policeman.
Pot Permissiveness just leads to permissiveness on OTHER things. It's a
gradual thing. First this, then a little latitude on other drugs... Personally I don't care if drugs are legal or not... I'm not going
to use them. But there IS a social cost associated with drug use and addiction
(and that includes alcohol). There's no doubting that.... look at all the
people in REHAB already!===============IMO
Permissiveness is fine, just as long as you also give people responsibility for
the CONSEQUENCES of their choices (not society).When you need
rehab... pay for it yourself, don't bill it to Medicaid or expect society
to pay for it.==============When you loose your job for
not being able (or caring enough) to perform your job duties because of
addiction or embracing the stoner-lifestyle... don't expect society to pay
you unemployment to sit home and smoke it with your friends.==============As long as people are OK with taking responsibility
for their actions (and not expect society to bail them out for bad decisions)...
I'm OK with expanding a LOT of things that are currently illegal (but are
really just stupid)...
This opinion piece is a sermon, not a well reasoned discussion of a public
policy issue. The facts presented do not support his conclusion. And there is
no discussion of the effects of the ridiculous level of incarceration,
alternative approaches, or the existing prevalence of drugs now, which involves
the disasterous "War on Drugs". This piece is an obfuscation. We know
where the writer stands, but it's not much use.
People who are internally or externally denied something always try to find ways
to deny it to others. The potheads you fear are already among you, mellow and
hungry. I am not among them, by the way. I figure if we could get the Arabs and
Israelis to take up pot smoking, there would be peace in the region.
You are correct about one thing 2bits, the big pharm companies love when they
can sell addicting pills.Most people I know on anti depressants or
other psychotropics have no idea that they are addicted to them and can not stop
without taking a hand full of other pills to combat the "Comedown." Stop using heroin (another big pharm invention) and you'll wish you
were dead but it won't kill you, try stopping most prescription drugs and
this isn't true, even alcohol withdrawls can kill you....and
the slippery slope argument doesn't hold water.Pot, no overdoes, no
physical addiction, (see chocolate) 5,000 years of human research should be
enough.Addictive personalities will always have trouble, like the
folks i know who are addicted to AA meetings, the schedules rule their lives,
yes, they are more pleasant not being drunk, but they are addicted to the
meeting as a distraction from the original addiction.
Am I sitting in Sunday School, or reading the Newspaper?
There are far more people texting and using hand held cell phones in Washington
(where hand held cell phone usage is banned) and in other states than the few
would would choose to use marijuana without a designated driver. For a head
line that suggested the writer was going to objectively look at "costs"
this article was a piece of fluff that addressed the writer's phobias and
I drink alcohol and smoke marijuana regularly while leading a productive,
enjoyable life. You know what I would never touch? The stuff that comes in jars
from the pharmacy. I take baby aspirin and stay physically healthy. Good luck
with preventing me from engaging in my occasional intoxicants, legal or not.
Marijuana is labeled "dope" for a reason. Those who are under its
influence are "dopey". Their judgement is impaired; but, that
doesn't matter to those who advocate "dope". They don't care
what it does to others as long as they can get it "legally".
That's a "dopey" attitude. When we no longer care about the
effects of drugs on society, citing, perhaps, that alcohol kills more people in
Utah than "dope", then we have lost our humanity. We guard
our children against shock by inserting safety plugs in our outlets, but we
throw them out with the bathwater when we minimize the harm that "dope"
does to society. We let those who have too little understanding of the body to
be influenced by "pushers" who want "dope". Studies
have shown that most "pushers" are also "users". Addicts want
drugs so they ush those drugs on others. Two States have joined with the
pushers. Those States want to make money off "dope" users by taxing
"dope".Follow the money trail. Ignore those who tell us that
marijuana is less deadly than alcohol.
@Hutterite,I don't fear pot-heads.... I just wouldn't want them
in my operating room or on my team, or piloting an airplane, or driving a bus,
or train (or a car for that matter).I was making the
"permissiveness leads to more permissiveness" argument. How does the
slippery slope argument not hold water? Can you enlighten us or give us proof
that permissiveness doesn't lead to more permissiveness? Because I can
give examples where it has.50 years ago... were we as permissive on
abortion as we are today? How about same-sex marriage... are we
more accepting and permissive on that than we were say... 30 years ago??Have we gradually gotten more permissive on premarital sex? And sex
between adults who are married to other partners... The answer is yes...And on drugs... does lessening restrictions on alcohol not help justify
lessening them on MJ and other drugs? That argument's being used
already... so it's hard to deny it...Do you have proof that the
slippery-slope argument DOESN'T hold water??Have countries that
legalized MJ not later legalized OTHER drugs? Yes... they have. It holds
re: airnaut & Ernest TI agree w/ you both.But, this
is Utah. The state motto could be a quote from H.L. Mencken... "Puritanism
is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
@Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahMarijuana is labeled "dope"
for a reason. ===== Please site the Constitution for
your banning marijuana.You are either FOR freedom, or against it.Using a Double Standard, Picking and choosing is disingeuous and not
being honest.Coffee, Tea dn Tobacco are all legal, but I
CHOOSE not to use them.FYI -- George Washington grew hemp.And Brigham Young encouraged the Saints to grow hemp as well.
Hemp, hemp, hemp... George Washington grew hemp... Brigham Young grew hemp... I
think we all know that there are more uses for hemp than just smoking it.
Don't be a hemp-head. I suspect Brigham Young grew hemp for one of these
reasons (not to smoke it).=============Why do the people
from ONE specific political persuasion seem to feel the need to defend
recreational use of Marijuana??? Can somebody explain why it seems to be so
cleanly divided on political lines?==============OMM,If MJ is so safe... why can you be arrested for driving under it's
influence in all 50 States? Why have we thrown train engineers and ferry
drivers into jail who caused huge accidents when under the influence of this
"SAFE" herb?Can you explain why their being impaired was a
problem... if hemp is completely "SAFE"?And why they went to jail
for doing this "SAFE" thing??And why so many people have to go to
REHAB to get off it?Obviously it's not completely safe. You
are just willing to overlook that fact and repeat the hemp-head rhetoric you
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