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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 20 2014 3:20 p.m. MDT

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RepresentBlue
West Jordan, UT

A lot of members of the local media are going to have egg on their faces when this ends up being a minor offense at worst.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

I had never heard Duane Bussy's name before this came out. From all the coaches and players who were associated with him, he seems to be a man with a big heart and a sterling character. Unfortunate it is that this surfaced as he left the "Y". This whole thing may or may not have anything to do with him. Nevertheless, I know that BYU did all that they were asked. Whatever it was, I personally think it was minor.

The whole school, professors, coaches, etc., live by the Honor Code, not just the athletes and students. I am proud to be an alumni of this great school. In all these years, they still hold themselves to higher standards than most universities.

Go Cougars!

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

As expected, there were no "major violations", as some on the hill were so desperately hoping.

After all of the media frenzy, this will turn out to be nothing more than some minor violations penalized by a slap on the wrist or some very minor penalties.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Good news for BYU; devastating news for the BYU haters.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

It'll be interesting to see what happens. I don't think BYU will get the death penalty or anything, but I think it's clear that this is about more than just socks.

Hey Baby
Franklin, IN

Too many cougar fans on the editorial board tonight...

Good night...

Enjoy posting all the sugar coated news

taylormade1
Springville, UT

Two for flinching,
You are absolutely hilarious even bringing up the "death penalty"!have you even been following this story from the start ? A slap on the hands at the very most which is exactly what you are going to see is not even in the same time zone as what you are referring to.anyways here's some better news to help make your day. Heard a media member interviewed back east today that stated that he is more than certain that the Y will in some way be included in the new major college football landscape within 4 years . Now that's something to talk about !

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ taylormade1

I said "I don't think BYU will get the death penalty or anything", which means that I do not think it'll be serious. However I would not be surprised if it turns out to be a little more serious than BYU fans are hoping it will be.

As for BYU being included, we'll see. Nobody knows what's going to happen, but their time is running out.

Gandalph
Sandy, UT

2fer

"I don't think BYU will get the death penalty..."

Trust a Utah fan to blow this completely out of proportion - expecting the death penalty for jay walking - sheesh!

What next, life in prison, for a parking ticket?

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

taylormade1
Springville, UT

"Heard a media member interviewed back east today that stated that he is more than certain that the Y will in some way be included in the new major college football landscape within 4 years. Now that's something to talk about !"

Well, let's see, taylormade1...it won't be the Pac-12, the ACC, or the SEC. That leaves the Big-10 and the Big-12. The Big-12 directly addressed the byu question and I'm not sure that the Big10 has any interest whatsoever. Any media member can say anything. So, taylormade1, where is the invitation for byu to be "included in the new major college football landscape," going to come from?

Given the current conversation, it would be prudent to question the credibility of the source before you engage in too much talk.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

As much as I can't stand many of the Utah haters on these threads, I really hope BYU get's though this unscathed. I will be suprised if it's nothing more than very minor penalties; and I hope that's the case. Sometimes I think someone should investigate the NCAA.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

taylormade,

"Heard a media member interviewed back east today that stated that he is more than certain that the Y will in some way be included in the new major college football landscape within 4 years "

Interesting - care to share their name? Its so very telling you didn't! Why don't you share your source and we can evaluate their credibility.

Here is yet ANOTHER person stating byu is in trouble. From KSL "BYU football could be in long term trouble" And within that article here is this gem:

“I could be wrong about BYU. I don’t know yet where they fit into the new scheme,” said Chris Dufresne of the Los Angeles Times.

“There seems to be a clear divide between the Power 5 and the (other) group of five, and BYU is sort of straddling in the middle. Notre Dame is always going to be OK.”

Ouch! Bad time to be a mid major like byu and Wyoming!

idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

After the NCAA pretty much gave the P5 carte blanche authority it would be really hypocritical if they came down hard on BYU for relatively minor infractions.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

CB

"I could be wrong about BYU. I don’t know yet where they fit into the new scheme," said Chris Dufresne of the Los Angeles Times.

"There seems to be a clear divide between the Power 5 and the (other) group of five, and BYU is sort of straddling in the middle. Notre Dame is always going to be OK."

I know that you're desperately hoping for the demise of BYU sports, but the truth is, nobody knows exactly how this is going to play out.

btw, since the "majors" have become "P5s", by default, "mid-majors" have become "non-P5s".

Try to keep up.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

TrueBlue,

Right, we don't know how byU will fit into the future of college football. But we do know that Utah is in a very very good position and byU is in a very very bad position.

LOL

There isn't a single mid major that wouldn't trade positions with any big boy team right now!

That says all we need to know.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@RepresentBlue

"A lot of members of the local media are going to have egg on their faces when this ends up being a minor offense at worst."

What makes you think this is the case? Despite what the BYU lapdog media is telling you, there is more to this than free socks. Players had their rent paid by the program itself (not just boosters). So no longer is it a "lack of institutional control"....now we are in the realm of the program itself providing impermissible benefits. That right there is enough to get a non-P5 school on postseason probation and scholarships withheld.

And if this was such a minor deal, BYU wouldn't have forced Busby out, and he wouldn't be hiding from the media.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Chris B

"Right, we don't know how BYU will fit into the future of college football. But we do know that Utah is in a very very good position and BYU is in a very very bad position."

Correction:

- Utah appears to currently be in a very good position as far as access to the playoffs; that doesn't mean Utah is in a better position to actually be invited to the playoffs.

- BYU appears to be a very bad position as far as access to the playoffs; that doesn't mean BYU isn't in a better position to actually be invited to the playoffs.

In both cases, it comes down to winning games and impressing the selection committee.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Utah appears to be in over their heads as far as winning.

BYU appears to have a tougher task at impressing the committee while they're winning.

As far as long-term stability in college football, forget it.

Whose to say that when the current television contracts expire, USC, UCLA, Stanford, California, Washington, Oregon, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State won't decide to split from the pack and form their own power conference leaving Utah and the other PAC 12 bottom dwellers to fend for themselves.

btw, why do childishly change the capitalization of "BYU"? That's so second grade.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

timid sparrow

"Despite what the BYU lapdog media is telling you, there is more to this than free socks."

And you know this how?

Are you privy to the confidential communications between BYU and the NCAA?

It is minor and BYU didn't force Busby out.

Just because you're desperately hoping it will turn out to be something "serious", doesn't make your BYU hating fantasies, reality.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

I also think that the coming years are going to bring big changes in the college sports landscape. If the US Congress could shake things up they way they did years ago with Title IX, what makes you think they can't and won't enact law to try to impose equality again?

Those that say that the P5 conferences as presently constituted are in the driver's seat will likely be the most surprised when the earthquake happens. I personally expect that five years from now conference alignments and structures won't look anything like they do today. And if that's true, BYU is in a pretty good place being independent until that happens, assuming they keep winning.

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