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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 19 2014 6:30 a.m. MDT

Updated: Tuesday, Aug. 19 2014 6:30 a.m. MDT

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Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I don't see Rand Paul ever getting the Republican nomination, not because of anything mentioned in this piece, but because his foreign policy is diametrically opposed to the policy choices of virtually all Republicans. If all you knew about Sen. Paul was his foreign and military policy positions, you would think he must be an ultra liberal Democrat, certainly far to the left of Hillary Clinton.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Why should Republicans engage in outreach to African-Americans, even though the level of suspicion is so high and the yield in votes is likely to be so low?"

Really? They need to ask?

How about, Because it's the right thing to do?

Because when elected, you represent all people. Your policies affect everyone. Not just those who voted for you.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

Since the takeover of the Republican Tea Party by the "bubba" element of the South, it will be impossible for any Republican/Tea Party candidate to garner the votes of almost any minority.

Applying a bit of cosmetilogical legerdemain to a porcine mammal, does not turn said mammal into anything different than it is.

The Republican/Tea Party will have to remain the party of old, white, largely conservative, religionists.

SharpHooks
Lake Sammamish, WA

Seriously....is there ANY republican possible candidate who even stands a chance for Pres?
There aren't any on the horizon...except maybe Huntsman, and he, word has it, doesn't want to be President.

Light and Liberty
St. George/Washington, UT

The progressives just don't know what to do with that part of America that disagrees with their view that everything should be free and government needs to take away individual rights for the good of the whole. In other words, the progressives can't reach their Utopia with those who can actually think for themselves and just want the government to protect them in their rights guaranteed under the Constitution (which, by the way, is a hindrance to progressives). I don't agree with everything that Paul stands for, but I sure as heck support his desire to protect my Constitutional rights, which is the real reason progressives dislike him. This author would do better by just stating what he believes, rather than waxing philosophical about a political leader that is really good about stating what he believes. If the progressives would just clear their muddled heads enough to come to terms with what they really want,then state it, I would be open to listen to them. Until then, give me what the Constitution guarantees me and leave me alone. I will be a good neighbor as well, something progressives only know by government delegation.

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID

Whenever I need a good laugh, I'll read post from a regressive who rambles on and on about how Rand Paul will protect his Constitutional rights and about how anybody who disagrees with his/her point of view is nothing more than a free-loading progressive. Hilarious.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

" their view that everything should be free and government needs to take away individual rights for the good of the whole."

I hope that you dont really think that. But, it is a nice, partisan box to put people in.

There are plenty of "progressives" that are quite wealthy and dont need the free stuff you talk about.

In the end, our deficit is driven by SS, Medicare and Defense. And I can assure you that a good number of conservatives are partaking of SS and Medicare and scream loudly if we touch defense.

What "conservative" politician is actually working on these huge chunks of the budget?

Do yourself a favor think logically. You are ranting about the pennies and letting the dollars slip away.

one old man
Ogden, UT

The conservatives just don't know what to do with that part of America that disagrees with their view that everything should be flowing upward to the 1% and government needs to take away individual opportunities for the good of the wealthy minority. In other words, the conservatives can't reach their Utopia with those who can actually think for themselves and just want the government to protect them in the rights they think they are guaranteed under their interpretation of the Constitution (which, by the way, is a hindrance to conservatives unless twisted to their wishes). If the conservatives would just clear their muddled heads enough to come to terms with what they really want,then state it, I would be open to listen to them. Until then, give me what the Constitution guarantees me as a real, living, breathing human being (not a corporation)and leave me alone. I will be a good neighbor as well, something conservatives have completely forgotten.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Two certainties. One is that Rand Paul has no chance of winning the GOP nomination. The 2nd being the party will nominate an older white male, who embraces Reagan, talks of smaller goverment, religous freedom, abolishing the IRS, but in the end losses.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Wow, Gerson, a Republican, eviscerating a Republican. The GOP will see a bloodbath over the next 2-3 years. They don't know what they stand for, where they want to go, lack a vision, and have no obvious leader. Probably a good thing. The last time the were in charge, it didn't turn out so good and we are still paying the price and will for some time yet.

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID

Hey Republicans - two words: Chris Christie.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

As I watched the violence and protests in Missouri unfold over the past week and I hear and see the ugly - volence laced - ignorant crowd that walks the streets I have to wonder what effect the Democrat Party has had on the Black Community over the past 50 years. In Chicago for example there were 12 black on black murders just over the past weekend and the percent of Black children born with no father is at 70%. That is shocking to say the least. To make the absurd suggestion that the ideology of the Democrat party has helped the Black community is nonsense. It has made it MUCH worse. The Democrat party has no answer for the Black community and proof is in the numbers of every major city from violence to high school drop out rate to out of wed lock children and abortion and so on......

New thinking is CRITICAL to help African Americans as well as Hispanic Americans. The same ole same ole throw a bunch of money at the problem doesn't work. New leadership is also needed in the White House! Handouts will never work!! Dr. Ben Carson is a breath of fresh air!!!

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

With the full support of the media, the progressives continue to perpetrate the myth that the GOP only cares about the rich 1% and is racist at its core. They also equally support the myth that progressive policies have somehow actually helped instead of hurt the poor and middle classes in this country.

If those things were really true, then poor black people would be making substantial gains in their position in society under this administration. We would see big improvements in unemployment rates, incarceration rates, graduation rates, stable families, etc. among the minority groups.

Instead, we see some of the biggest declines in the history of this country. Just like how Detroit refuses to acknowledge how Democratic rule destroyed that once great city, liberals refuse to even think that Obama's policies might be detrimental to poor people.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ patriot, you make a truly astounding statement that any one political party is responsible for racism in America, something that predates the United States. It just never has gone away. Your attack on the Democrats for trying to help minorities is ill-conceived. No program is perfect, but what the Democrats are doing is trying to help. The Republicans offer nothing at all and have refused to lift a finger. I would prefer to err on the side of helping, even though it might take another 200 years to turn around what this country did to its minorities over the past 400+ years.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:Esquire

Esquire - look at the numbers because they do not lie guy!! Over the past 50 years every stat I sited has gotten much worse and the reason is due completely to the failed liberal policies that the Democrat party use. Hand outs and welfare and disincentives for work will NEVER be the answer. Never. The GOP has some great ideas and Paul Ryan and Dr. Ben Carson have actually articulated them recently. When something isn't working you don't keep doing it making the absurd judgement that it is better than nothing. Sometimes you have first STOP doing the bad policies and then reverse and insert new thinking into the problem.

Now let's look at why the Democrats do what they do. You suggest it is out of concern and care. I completely disagree with that. It is actually out of a lust for power for themselves and making people dependent is the key. What black people need is freedom from government dependence and the power to achieve that. Show me one policy from your party that acheives that!

10CC
Bountiful, UT

My wife is African American, from nearby the trouble in Ferguson, Missouri.

The Civil Rights Act, Affirmative Action and many liberal programs indeed have had a very, very beneficial effect for many African Americans, who we now see among us, out of the ghetto, welcome parts of our middle class, integral parts of the wonderful mosaic of America.

Unfortunately, there are too many people who have not benefitted from equal rights and social programs, and I don't think anyone has ready answers on how they might be helped, or better yet, motivated to reach up and achieve.

We have too many people - regardless of race - who have concluded they're not going to win (or even be respectable) in the the race to prosperity, and instead they seek to survive by bypassing our regular economy.

The racism of yesteryear has become the "class-ism" of 21st century Capitalism, and if able-bodied, college educated, hard-working, loyal employees are easily discarded as "uncompetitive" via globalization, it's hard to see how the even less fortunate will succeed.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Over the past 50 years every stat I sited has gotten much worse and the reason is due completely to the failed liberal policies that the Democrat party use"

Patriot. It should be obvious, but maybe you are missing it.

If it has happened over the last 50 years, maybe, just maybe, it is not just the Democrats using these "failed liberal policies".

You do know that in the last 50 years, the GOP has been in power quite often. Sorry to break it to you, but they have not historically operated significantly different from the Democrats.

And vice versa.

Sad that so many can not see this very apparent fact.

Light and Liberty
St. George/Washington, UT

One old Man. If you can defend whether something is Constitutional,I am more than happy to support your cause. Progressives, however,view the Constitution as an impediment to their "do-gooder" ideas. The endless tit and tat of ideas can cease if that question can get answered. It doesn't matter whether the poor man is poor or the rich man is rich. The progressives are still under the delusion that they have some program to fix poverty or any other number of challenges in this country. I don't want a Utopian society. I want human beings that have to live life without somebody trying to live it for them, which progressives are doing all they can to do. Since when was this country founded under the principle that everyone had to have a certain level of income to be happy, or educational attainment, or Health care? I don't want government taking care of me! Progressives are under the delusion that people need their help to be happy. That doesn't stop them, however. Rand Paul doesn't like compulsion, something that progressives know is a threat to what they can't live without, power!

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hmmmm . . . So we have Gerson, a former GW Bush acolyte . . . And he's dissing Rand Paul.

We've seen how completely DESTRUCTIVE to this nation Republicans can be.

“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president . . . ”

Mitch McConnel's infamous dictum and the consequent sabotage of all useful legislation favored by the President showed the Republicans' willingness to harm America if it can help achieve a questionable political objective.

And now Republicans are showing how destructive to their own party they can be. Apparently silly bickering takes precedence over party solidarity.

Let's just stand back and let this take its course.

Republican continually show their propensity and inclination to destroy. If they direct their animus toward one another, that could be a good thing, couldn't it?

Karen R.
Houston, TX

In my eyes, the act that is most revealing of the heart of the Republican Party today is its effort to restrict access to the polls. IMO, this says loud and clear, "We aren't trying to win hearts and minds. We have in our tent who we want and now we have to figure out a way to win with what we recognize is a minority."

It both sickens and saddens me to see the party in this state. I used to respect it.

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