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Published: Monday, Aug. 18 2014 6:15 p.m. MDT

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1Observer
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It is my experience that most police officers are very reluctant to use deadly force. They are trained to protect life, not take it. However, unfortunate as it is, they sometimes have to use lethal force. If people were honest with themselves I think you would find that in nearly 98% of the officer involved shootings the victim could have avoided the shooting by cooperating, following orders, keeping their hands clear and in the open and being respectful to police. They also could have avoided it by not being involved in criminal activity to begin with. I can't pass judgement on the actions of the police officers in the cases cited since I wasn't there. But if we are to condemn the police we ought to also condemn the person being shot for breaking the law and then not following the lawful orders of the police officers involved. Simply breaking the law does not, in and of itself, justify deadly force, but a person involved in criminal activity puts themselves at risk and to aggravate that risk by being combative with the police officer must bring some responsibility to the victim of the shooting. Crime and violence beget violence.

John Pack Lambert of Michigan
Ypsilanti, MI

It seems like the real goal of some of these people is to make it easier for people to avoid arrest and continue their crimes.

RichardB
Murray, UT

They need to wait until the investigation is over before jumping to conclusions. Giving out information that could harm an investigation may win fans, but it ends up turning people loose that belong in jail.

roberto
Moses Lake, WA

This transparency thing should be a two way street. The protesters are crying foul when it appears that the young man was up to mischief and people who have now idea who he really was are trying to paint him as a "gentle giant". The video doesn't lie. It didn't look like the giant was so gentle when he was steeling cigars from the store. Get the race beaters Jessey Jackson and Al Sharpton, and the looting thugs out of the way and let the investigators do their job.

roberto
Moses Lake, WA

Oops My bad!!!! I didn't read the Story. I deserve what ever rashing coming my way

John Jackson
Sandy, UT

There are a lot of similarities between this and the Micheal Brown case, but one big difference is how much we know. Michael Brown's friend stepped up with an account of the Ferguson shooting. Witnesses of this shooting have not spoken out. Often, we tend to assume the police had cause unless there is solid evidence the other way. I, too, wish the South Salt Lake Police would give us a basic sketch of what they know about what happened.

MoJules
Florissant, MO

I commend the people in Utah who are protesting, they are not acting like the people that are just a couple of miles from me in Missouri. Sometimes a police officer wrongly kills someone, sometimes they don't. Until all the facts and information are in, people need to have an open mind for fairness. I say this because of our local congressman calling the police officer in Ferguson a murderer. He could be, or he could have been defending himself, until all the facts are out, neither should be condemned, the one killed or the one that killed. I do know that the friend of Michael Brown did lie, that was verified in today's autopsy results. I hope that the people in Utah will continue to protest in peace and not destroy other peoples lives who had nothing to do with the death of this man. When I watch the news of what is going on here, it seems like I am watching things that are happening in Iraq, it is ugly and those doing it, don't care about the guy that was killed, they just want to destroy, it isn't even their town.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

No, the protester do not want answers and transparency.

They want excuses and bloody shirts to wave to advance their agenda. Their agenda is usually pro-criminal and anti-social and against law enforcement, business, and personal responsibility.

If they wanted answers and transparency, they just have to wait until investigations are finished. But, the eventual truth of the matter is most likely to conflict with their preferred narrative and eliminate any justification for the inflammatory rhetoric so popular with the left.

Wait for the truth to come out, quietly, even if you cannot handle the truth.

ibulleti
Layton, UT

Thank heavens the Deseret News/SL Trib wasted time and paper documenting this huge protest of more than a dozen people. At least it appears to be a dozen...maybe less...

Jamescmeyer
Midwest City, USA, OK

Being a police officer is probably the hardest job in the world. If they don't do their job, anarchy ensues. If they DO do their job, people riot, especially if I and the assailant happen to be particular races, and then accuse me of racism.

It's hard to sift through the fine details of events like this because of how badly they're politicised, but I know two things for sure:

#1: White cops aren't slaughtering innocent black people left and right. If they were, most media outlets would jump at the chance to further the party-funding "victim" narrative.
#2: Cops don't just go ballistic and shoot orderly, cooperative people who aren't doing anything wrong, regardless of race.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "It's just crazy — unarmed people getting shot . . . ."

Agreed. It's just crazy that parents don't teach their kids that it's genuinely crazy to needlessly and callously challenge police officers in these life-or-death situations. It's crazy for unarmed kids to attack armed police officers.

And, most of all, it's crazy to suggest that the cops we pay so grudgingly and so poorly to lay their lives on the line to protect us receive so little support from us while they're doing exactly what we've asked them to do.

Cops are daily faced with a simple decision -- do I go home tonight, or does the criminal? Their training correctly tells them to err on the side of their families, not the criminal's.

Kids, even adults, raised by injudicious parents to believe they're above the law, or that it's cool to flout the law or challenge cops just doing their jobs, are the problem.

Foolishly disarming or further hampering the police is not a solution, and would only add to the problem.

shabam
Ogden, UT

Far too many actions of the police suggest otherwise, when it comes to public safety, and public trust in society today. we in society need a responsible and accountable police force to the people, they are public safety servants, not tyrants.
We need to update our methods of inclusion of accountability by legislation;
1. make cops wear cameras and microphones when going on call.
2. full background check with no priors of beatings and killings, anywhere.
3. mental health certification annually for employment qualifications, they are fit to work with the public, kids, elderly, pregnant women,and are not racist, violent or have Ptsd or some violent repressed mental issues, from war or elsewhere.
This is not to much to ask for.
People want to see more de escalation tactics than shooting unarmed citizens is all.

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