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Published: Monday, Aug. 18 2014 4:36 p.m. MDT

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itsjustme
Vernal, UT

I say if the East-coast environmentalists want yet another land set-aside in the West, with the creation of the Greater Canyonlands National Monument, then they need to push to have all the land south of Canal Street in New York City returned to its natural state. Then they can push for an Eastern US National Monument in their back yard.

Seems only fair to me that if we in Utah are required to set-aside even more of our land, it's the least they can do in their part of the country.

whatever_dude
Truckee, CA

What are you talking about? Canal Street isn't adjacent to national parks and prime recreation lands. And it ain't New Yorkers that use them most. It's mostly locals, like any place.

You ought to know, since you are from Vernal, that enviros and recreationists pretty much gave the industry a free pass to rape and pillage the Uintah Basin, which they did; you'd have to be insane to try to recreate there now. The deal was always that Moab was off limits and critical to Utah's valuable recreation industry. But now--big surprise!--politicians and the oil and gas industry conveniently forgot that part.

People like you will not be satisfied until you get everything and leave absolutely nothing for everybody else. And for what? Is gas any cheaper now that the USA is the largest exporter in the world? No.

Again, big surprise.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

itsjustme

"Seems only fair to me that if we in Utah are required to set-aside even more of our land...."

It's not "your" land.

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't think it's a good idea to permanently scar one of the most beautiful and delicate landscapes in the world for oil. Most places in the world can handle oil extraction with minimal damage to the landscape, Moab is not one of those places. Because Cryptoboitic Soil takes so long to grow every hole they dig and every road they build will be clearly visible for at least the next 200 years.

There are other places in Utah to extract oil, go somewhere else! Someplace not right next to a National Park and a Mecca for outdoor enthusiasts!

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

@byronbca

This article is not about oil. Did you read the article?

deserthound
Salt Lake City, UT

Dear 'itsjustme' - Let's please lose the "east coast environmentalists" argument. It's simply not true and therefore shrinks your credibility to zero. In addition, it just feeds into the "me vs them" frame. These issues deserve a more honest conversation. Besides, there are thousands upon thousands of Utahns - some natives and some transplants - who view this amazing landscape through the long term lens, unlike some who only see it for immediate short term profits. And it's regardless how long I or anyone else has lived in Utah. These are public lands, owned equally by the lifelong Utahn or the person in NYC. It's not "our" land as in Utahns' and never has been and never will be. It's everyone's, which is the way it should stay.

Jumpyman
Salt Lake City, UT

The land is everyones, and I as a tax paying, law-abiding citizen don't have any problem with responsible development for oil and gas on public lands. It is not like they are going to be running a pipeline right through the middle of Delicate Arch or even through the National Park land. Pipelines are usually run along roads or through other areas that are not considered pristine and the BLM is involved in siting those lines. In areas where it is necessary to cross sensitive areas, the pipelines are bored underground rather than dig a trench. People just need to relax on the pipeline thing. It is a lot better for the environment to transport oil through a pipeline than to have trucks hauling oil driving back and forth to each wellpad.

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