Uteology"Utah had a very similar schedule in 2011:..."that was ranked ELEVEN places lower than BYU's 2013 schedule (#38
vs #49), which is obviously insignificant to you, yet you made a big deal out
Utah finishing ONE place higher than BYU in 2013 (#34 vs #35).Try
showing a little consistency.
@uteologyThe Cotton Bowl is a "major new years day bowl" and
his been for decades.
UteologyToday, BYU's Crystal Football National Championship
Trophy is just as brilliant and just as impressive as any other Crystal Football
National Championship Trophy.The only difference between BYU's
1984 trophy and Florida State's 2013 trophy is the name and year engraved
on the trophy.
GandalphSandy, UTtruthsandwichThe highest standard
possible in going undefeated isn't your strength of schedule, but whether
or not you impressed the majority of voters enough to be ranked #1 in the final
polls.BYU did that in both the AP and Coaches polls in 1984.Utah was only a distant 2nd in one poll in 2008.Sorry to
burst your crimson bubble, but your best, was only a distant 2nd best.-------------Today, the 1984 title is as impressive as the
multiple championships by Army and TCU.Utah helped lower the
standards in 2004 and BYU is still trying to get to its first January (BCS/major
bowl) since. Even though Hawaii, UCF, and NIU have already done so.
DeepBlueAnaheim, CAtruthsandwichQualifying for a
bowl is a MUCH lower standard than going undefeated, which Utah has never done
versus a Top 50 schedule.By the way, you completely avoided the
actual question, so here it is again:"...when was the last time
Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"BYU
accomplished such a feat in 2013.When has Utah ever accomplished
such a feat?--------------That's an accomplishment?
Utah had a very similar schedule in 2011:* Utah (8-5) in 2011 SOS
#49, 6-5 vs P5 teams and 2-0 vs others.* BYU (8-5) in 2013 SOS #38, 2-5 vs
P5 teams and 6-0 vs others.All you did is beat the same teams
you've been beating to get into a bowl game for decades and lost to the
similar teams you've been losing to for decades. Congrats!
@CougsandDawgsCool enough and fair enough Guy! Cheers indeed!
truthsandwichThe highest standard possible in going undefeated
isn't your strength of schedule, but whether or not you impressed the
majority of voters enough to be ranked #1 in the final polls.BYU did
that in both the AP and Coaches polls in 1984.Utah was only a
distant 2nd in one poll in 2008.Sorry to burst your crimson bubble,
but your best, was only a distant 2nd best.
Spokane Ute:I did read your comment on the UW v BYU series. I appreciated
it and it was thoughtful...which you usually are, so I hope you didn't
think I was taking things personal. I was commenting that both fanbases are
guilty of making unrelated and wise crack comments on each other's board. I
felt it was disingenuous of you to say it was typical of BYU fans, while not
recognizing that ute fans including you and uteology are guilty of doing the
same thing.You usually are a straight shooter, and I enjoy most of
your posts. I was making an honest observation...nothing personal. Lets face it,
no one should take anything personal on these boards...they provide
entertainment and a platform for bantering and ribbing my rival. I truly
don't take it personal, and I hope you don't either. Cheers
Deep Blue"Qualifying for a bowl is a MUCH lower standard than
going undefeated.By the way, you completely avoided the actual
question, so here it is again:"...when was the last time Utah
qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"BYU
accomplished such a feat in 2013.When has Utah ever accomplished
such a feat?"At least you can admit that Utah has set a
"MUCH" higher standard than the cougs. By the way, you did
that twice you ironically avoided my actual question, so here it is again:"When was the last time BYU went undefeated against a top 95
strength of schedule."Utah has accomplished such a feat
twice.When has BYU ever accomplished such a feat?LOL
@ Cougs and DawgsFurthermore you may want to read my comment on the
new BYU-Washington series before labeling someone.
Cougs and DawgsWow, thought you were a straight shooter, but things
appear to be personal. My mistake. Does Savanah State get under your skin? Good
truthwich"I have to laugh at all this talk about bowl games from
the BYU crowd..."Which makes all of that bowl-game winning
streak talk that Utah fans used to be so obsessed with,absolutely
hysterical!Especially, your "bowl game winning percentage"
spin.FOUR of Utah's 17 bowl opponents(24%) were ranked in both
final polls, including TWO in the Top 15.SIXTEEN of BYU's 32
bowl opponents(50%) were ranked in both final polls, including TEN in the Top
truthsandwichQualifying for a bowl is a MUCH lower standard than
going undefeated, which Utah has never done versus a Top 50 schedule.By the way, you completely avoided the actual question, so here it is
again:"...when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after
playing the 38th ranked SOS?"BYU accomplished such a feat in
2013.When has Utah ever accomplished such a feat?
I have to laugh at all this talk about bowl games from the BYU crowd because the
Utes didn't go bowling against a strength of schedule that BYU fans clearly
can't fathom. BYU may typically get to bowl games by beating bad teams, but
that's where they seem to get exposed.Utah on the other hand
boasts the highest bowl winning percentage of any major college football program
that has been to at least 10 bowls. We've also been to and won two BCS
bowls. BYU in it's entire "storied" history has never even played
in a bowl that big. Let alone won one. Hence the ankle biting.
@Uteanymous"Remind us, Sparkley Briefs, when was the last time
Utah qualified for a bowl after playing the 38th ranked SOS?"When was the last time BYU went undefeated playing a top 95 strength of
Spokane Ute:"The article is about Utah's starting QB; yet the
usual band of characters turn it into a BYU thing. Par for the course. It's
pretty obvious who's under whoms skin."Have you and
uteology looked at and commented on more than your share of BYU articles, often
interjecting Utah into the conversation? Do you call the kettle black often,
Pot?Lets not be disingenuous by pretending that either fanbase
isn't under the others skin...it's a rivalry. But I'm sure U get
under the Colorado Puffaloes skin just as much right?
@UteologyNicely done and spot on as usual. The article is about
Utah's starting QB; yet the usual band of characters turn it into a BYU
thing. Par for the course. It's pretty obvious who's under whoms skin.
@BlueNtheFace"You posted on the wrong article, this isn't
about Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%."
(in response to an unrelated snide remark about TW and KT's passing %)Keep your eye on the Y, brah. You need us.-----------So you post a snide remark about Utah (TW and KT), which isn't even
correct. Someone corrects you, with correct data.You
come back and pound your chest that it proves the Y gets under my skin?Priceless!
@BlueNtheFaceCan a team be more under the skin of someone than BYU
is with Uteology?? His first 2 comments on this article,which is exclusive to
the Utes, are centered around BYU:"At this point, he's
still the best passing QB in the state behind Keeton." Psst. Your team
avoided playing both the Cougars and the Aggies this year. Why are they still on
your mind??---------------Exaggerate much? Nope, I never mentioned BYU in my first post. You just made that up. Yes, I
did give props to Keaton as being the best QB in the state but it was centered
around Wilson. In my second post, I simple corrected the miss
information posted by a Cougar fan since you guys didn't. Just like you
guys haven't called out Tysom Hill on his horrible scrimmage numbers but
feel it's appropriate to mock Wilson.Yes, my team is
"avoiding" BYU and Utah State in order to take on "better"
opponents Michagon and Fresno State.
@gored"Utah will be playing 5 ranked teams"Maybe, but probably not. Remember it is the utah "fans" around here
that have told us that preseason, and even in season, rankings are meaningless.
It is only when the season is done that a ranking is true and applies.
Don't you remember telling us that BYU's win over Texas didn't
count as a win over a ranked team because even though they were ranked when BYU
trounced them they fell out of the rankings and so that nullifed it from being
counted as a win over a ranked team. Ditto for when BYU beat Oklahoma which was
the 2nd ranked team in the country until BYU beat them and put their QB out for
the season. Didn't count according to utah "fans".So
when some of those "5 ranked teams" lose, as they surely will, and do
not finish ranked (especially if they lose to utah)doesn't that mean that
utah will not have played "5 ranked teams"? That is the utah
"fan" standard although the utah "fan" hypocrisy will certainly
try to spin it differently to try and make utah look better.lol
@DrUte "Love all the Blue Boys claiming Red futility..... why do you
care?..."I've read posts/jabs you've made about BYU to
articles exclusively about BYU. It's no secret. Why do you
care?Congrats to T.W. for winning the QB reigns again. He is the
best they have; and ute fans should not find that comforting.
Can a team be more under the skin of someone than BYU is with Uteology?? His
first 2 comments on this article,which is exclusive to the Utes, are centered
around BYU: "At this point, he's still the best passing QB
in the state behind Keeton." Psst. Your team avoided playing both the
Cougars and the Aggies this year. Why are they still on your mind??"You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill.
Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%." (in response to an
unrelated snide remark about TW and KT's passing %)Keep your
eye on the Y, brah. You need us.Good luck Wilson.
It's laughable how Utah fans used to beat their chests about all those
consecutive bowl wins (when Utah was nothing more than a mediocre team beating
an equally mediocre team), but now that the Utes are mighty P5s, Utah fans look
down their noses at a team that merely qualifies for a bowl.Remind
us, Sparkley Briefs, when was the last time Utah qualified for a bowl after
playing the 38th ranked SOS?
scott:"It's interesting to see all of the whiny
excuse-making by Utah fans before the season has even started desperately trying
to explain away why BYU will have another more successful year than
Utah."I suppose it depends on how you define success. Put Utah
or Utah St. In BYU's position and they make the Beach Blanket Bowl 98 out
of 100 times too - success as defined by scott, sort of like a participation
trophy. I think success for the Aggies would be contending for a conference
title and earning a bowl birth. Success for the Utes this year would be to get
enough wins to go bowling and end with a +.500 record. Those are far bigger
challenges than a free ride to the beach. IMO, a real sucessful year for the
Cougars this year would be an 11-1 record and a solid top 20 ranking.
Let's hope all three teams can enjoy sucess this year!
VegasUte:"If Utah is supposedly "the pug slobbering on his
shoe", what does that make byU who can't beat the slobbering pug in
anything anymore?"Once again you bring BYU into the conversation
when I didn't say anything about them. Utah is still the slobbering pug to
Stanford, regardless of what happens between BYU and Utah. Again, this is why
BYU fans know Utah is nothing without them, because you've accomplished
nothing except a recent run of beating BYU. Good for U, but do U think Stanford,
Oregon, ASU, USC, or UCLA care? Still the slobbering pug, regardless of what U
do against your rival (oh wait...is that the mighty Buffalos and the annual
powder puff pillow fight now?).And just a side note: BYU has won 11
of the last 13 games against Utah in bball...kinda makes your "BYU
can't beat Utah in anything anymore" a little hyperbolic doesn't
it? Unless you think one nice win last year all of a sudden erases the previous
@PAC Man: Actually, we Ute fans know that we aren't going to be ranked
until we win meaningful games, consistently. This year will give us another shot
at that. I have faith that we'll ring a few more bells this season. go Utes!
@worfMcallen, TXUtes should have taken Jake Heaps when they
had the chance.----------------Why we already had a D2
QB, he would never have played at Utah.
VegasUte"Seems like the whiny excuse making and the desperate
grab for attention is coming from Utah County."Actually, the
only desperation here is the kids on the hill desperately making whiny excuses
to explain why the P5 Utes were completely ignored by the national media and
coaches, while the non-P5 Cougars and Aggies are at least on the national radar.
scott:"The only thing CG was pointing out was the hypocrisy"
- interesting coming from byU fan on a Utah article. The hypocrisy is byU fan
claiming that they are better than Utah because a preseason poll gave them nine
votes then byU fan coming on a Utah article claiming hypocrisy because rankings
are not "cast in stone". The logic makes my head spin, but it is
entertaining none the less.Seems like the whYnY excuse making and
the desperate grab for attention is coming from Utah County. Otherwise, Why
would byU fan care about what Utah fans think about their own team? Thanks
again for proving my point that you can't survive football without Utah.Good luck to byU with their tough schedule of five teams that got at
least one vote in a preseason poll - oh ya, and with Savannah State and UNLV to
finish out your amazing home schedule.Go Utes!Come on
football, we're all going stir crazy
worf"Utes should have taken Jake Heaps when they had the
chance."Jake did play for Utah once, and byU fans got free
turnovers as a result.Go Utes!!
Cougsndawgs:If Utah is supposedly "the pug slobbering on his
shoe", what does that make byU who can't beat the slobbering pug in
anything anymore? Or Virginia, the 2-10 team that beat the team that can't
beat the slobbering pug in anything anymore?Thanks for playing.Go Utes!9 days!!
VegasUteWho said anything about BYU fans "hanging their hat"
on anything?The only thing CG was pointing out was the hypocrisy of
Utah fans assuming that Utah's and BYU's preseason opponent rankings
are cast in stone.It's interesting to see all of the whiny
excuse-making by Utah fans before the season has even started desperately trying
to explain away why BYU will have another more successful year than Utah.
Given the recent history of QB's staying healthy, it looks like Thompson
will have more than an outside chance of playing this year.Don't forget that Alex took over for the injured QB plying in front of
him...And never looked back.
Spokane Ute:"I'm su(r)e Stanford wouldn't consider Utah
Cannon Fodder."Actually that is probably why they lost. The Big
Dog that doesn't notice the pug slobbering on his shoe until he bites.
CG:"5 of BYU's 2014 opponents received votes in the AP
preseason poll. How do you know that all 5 won't be ranked by season's
end?"That's what byU fan is hanging their hat on this year?
I hate to tell you this, but if that is your best argument, you are in for one
extremely long season, especially since two of the 5 teams only received one
single vote. What you fail to understand is that for them to end the season
ranked, they will most assuredly have to beat byU to get there. So if you are
rooting for all five to be ranked, you are also rooting for 5 byU losses.BTW, if you're counting all of Utah opponents that received votes,
that would be 7 the 12 games. But reality dictates that when talking about
preseason ranked teams, we keep the number at 5 - the number of teams actually
ranked.The byU faithful continue to entertain me and prove that they
cannot survive football without Utah. Thank you all for your love and your
support for all things Ute.Go Utes!!
Utes should have taken Jake Heaps when they had the chance.
Travis deserves the start, but I would hope they allow him to run, also. That
does set up the passing game in Utah's offensive system. Thompson would
require additional prep time for the other team, which is good. Here's to
a great season.
"I'm curious, BYU fans, what ranked teams are you playing this year?
Utah will be playing 5 ranked teams."How could you possibly know
how many ranked teams U, BYU, or any other team will be playing this year?A couple of years ago, Utah was scheduled to play preseason #1 USC. By
the end of the season, USC wasn't even ranked.The same could be
the case for any, or all, of the preseason "ranked" teams on Utah's
schedule.Meanwhile, 5 of BYU's 2014 opponents received votes in
the AP preseason poll. How do you know that all 5 won't be ranked by
DuckhunterHighland, UT@Fight OnUnfortunately for utah
oregon and stanford will not be missing from next years schedule. utah plays a
rotation of 4 years on 2 years off with the pac12 north. That means that
washington state and oregon state go off of the schedule next year-------------No you're wrong too.Utah will never
play Stanford and Cal in the same year (nor will CU, ASU or Arizona) due to the
Bay schools' protected rivalries with the LA schools. Every year from this
point forward, either Cal or Stanford will be missing from Utah's (and the
other 3 I mentioned) schedule. The other bye rotates among the rest of the P12
North teams.So beginning next season, we lose Stanford again plus
either Oregon State or Wazzu.
@utefever"BYU's winning percentage against the PAC 12 last
year, 0%... if you played in the Conference of Champions, based on data, your
winning percentage would be...........0%"What a ridiculous
assumption. It's 2 games (Wash. and utah). To say we wouldn't win a
game in the Pac-12 is crazy.I suppose we would have gone undefeated
in the Big 12 last year since we had a 100% win percentage against that
conference last year. And I suppose Utah State would have gone undefeated in the
Pac-12 in 2012.The train of thought of some people is really
Duckhunter"...so utah does get oregon 4 years straight. I'm
sure those will all be losses."After you were so sure of
yourself about a BYU victory over Utah last year, as well as a certain Utah
defeat at the hands of #5 Stanford, I suddenly find myself feeling like Utah has
a decent shot of upsetting the Ducks. Ha! Imagine that, the Utah Utes... the
best duckhunters on the DNews chat boards!
I'm curious, byu fans, what ranked teams are you playing this year? Utah
will be playing 5 ranked teams. Is your team from Provo even playing one ranked
team? So that's your secret. Play a schedule full of the
worst teams from a few major conferences, coupled with several average teams
from mid-major conferences, so you can boast that your hollow, inflated record
is greater than your former rival's record, discounting the fact that your
rivals are playing challenging, yet meaningful games every week. Your only reward seems to be to come onto the comment boards to make fun of
your rivals, while conveniently overlooking the fact that your team has one of
the softest schedules in the country. But any unbiased football fan knows the
Good luck Travis. Hopefully Wilson can stay healthy for the complete season and
Thompson can get some packages to utilize his athleticism. The Utes have solid
receivers and running backs, if the line is as improved as I'm hearing,
Utah could surprise a few people this year.To our mid-major program
friends, thank you for your always positive comments.Go Utes!!
@uncle ricoI stand corrected, but I knew that it wasn't a 2 on
2 off with both oregon and stanford so utah does get oregon 4 years straight.
I'm sure those will all be losses.
DuckhunterHighland, UTTwo observations.kendall
thompson - not worthy of the hype utah "fans" put on him when the
transfer was anounced.connor manning - not worthy of the hype utah
"fans" placed on him when he committed, signed, and for the last two
years.---------------Any observations about the 5 star
player that was beat out by the 3rd string QB from Utah State?Jake
Heaps - Still not worthy of all the hype BYU "fans" placed on him after
the press conference at Iggy's.
utefeverI find it interesting that whenever someone brings in a
representative sample of data, it intimidates the crimson glasses wearing
crowd.Bronco's winning percentage versus PAC 12 teams, 50%
(9-9)Kyle's winning percentage versus PAC 12 teams, 38% (13-21)Keep bragging about your SOS trophy, but the truth is, BYU accomplished
something in 2013 that has never been accomplished at the U; BYU qualified for a
bowl after playing a Top 40 SOS.
Snack PACI find it interesting that whenever someone brings in data, it
intimidates the blue crowd. BYU's winning percentage against the PAC 12
last year, 0%. This year, luckily, you avoid the Utes but most likely you will
end up with the same winning percentage of 0% as you will have to play CAL, the
worst team in the league. It will be funny. Keep bragging about your 8-5
record, because if you played in the Conference of Champions, based on data,
your winning percentage would be...........0%
@DuckhunterHighland, UT@Fight OnUnfortunately for
utah oregon and stanford will not be missing from next years schedule. utah plays a rotation of 4 years on 2 years off with the pac12 north. That
means that washington state and oregon state go off of the schedule next year
and washington and cal come back onto the schedule along with oregon and
stanford. oregon and stanford will be on the schedule for 2 more
years after this year, 3 more years total.... I forsee the futility
continuing.-------------------You might be better able
to foresee if you did some research.Here's Utah's future
PAC-12 North opponents:2015/16: Cal, Oregon, OSU, WSU2017/18:
Stanford, Oregon, Washington, WSU Source: EIGHT-YEAR PAC-12
FOOTBALL SCHEDULE ROTATIONSB Nation
Congratulations to Travis in making it all the way back. As a BYU fan I was
sorry to hear about his injury last year and wished him the best in his
recovery. Now that recovery is complete and he IS the starting quarterback.Good luck in the 2014 season and hopefully you will have the success you
deserve.I'M JUST SORRY WE WON'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO PLAY
TRAVIS AGAIN. Maybe in the 2015 4-team National Championship Playoffs.Goooooooooo Cougars!!!
@CougfaninTx: Did you really just bring up the quality of bowl invites? Have you
looked at BYU's options? I'd be really proud if I were you. You get to
beat 9 high school teams to play in The Miami Beach Bowl. That, and the fact
that not even your prognostic skills can determine where the Utes will land this
year leads your comment to be less than informational.Old But Not
Stupid:You may be right, but how many years has it taken you to get to
this point? The Utes are gearing up to make some noise. We may even surprise
you. That would just be the icing on the cake.
Once again Duckhunter has no idea what he is talking about. Utah
does NOT play Stanford in 2015 or 2016 (as Duckhunter said).Utah has a 2
year rotation with Cal and Stanford (2 years on, 2 years off). Utah never plays
Stanford and Cal in the same season.Duckhunter should stay on the
cougar board. They have their own qb with issues. Hill had 30 incompletions
against Utah last year and lost to Virginia.Wilson had the best win
(against Stanford) and won the head-to-head game.Hill may be the
best QB in AAC this year, but he wouldn't start at Utah.
Old But Not StupidMoorpark, CAUteology"You
posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's
career passing percentage is around 60%."You did not read his
post....he was referring to BOTH TW and KT's 50% completion rate in your
latest scrimmage. If the last week's camp is added to his career numbers he
won't be "around" 60%....--------------The
only scrimmage numbers I care about is Weber State and BYU last year, in both
games he was great.One more point, if Hills scrimmage passing
numbers are added to his career passing numbers he would be playing fullback or
on the bench at another program.
@motorbikeYou are spot on. It's very funny how selective memory
works for certain individuals. I'm sue Stanford wouldn't consider Utah
Cannon Fodder.Take Care Guy!
79UteOrange County, CA"Dr. Ute:'Feckless
prognostication' was awesome, but can't you find a way to get your
nouns and verbs to agree with each other?"79er-Wasn't
Dr. Ute the one who claimed a sheepskin from USC (aka Figueroa Tech)? If so,
that would explain most of the doctor's deficiencies.
THis is going to be good because he can't win good teams and if we played
them we would win them this time.
Utefan4LyfWest Jordan, UT"@Old But Not Stupid:I take
it you have a crystal ball that tells you this?"No, just common
sense and experience."I'm pretty sure we won't be
competing for a conference championship within the next two years, but I can
tell you we will see improvement."Ahh. The inevitable moral
victory (seeing improvement) syndrome."Considering you are
cheering for a school who has lost more bowl games in the last 20 years than
they have won, and missed a few years as well, you don't have too much to
talk about."I think I will have more to chat about this year
(and next, and the next) than you will. Sorry, but you can't have Coach
Mora. Please don't forget how ya'll got "Jacked" by Myles
Jack last year--if I recall he had a game ending interception, no?As
I've noted many times the Utes may contend occasionally in basketball, but
you simply cannot compete with the Left Coast programs in recruiting for
football.Good luck, but I wouldn't recommend any LoLs....Go Bruins! Ranked #7 vs. Utah's #77 ??
Snack PAC"Your desperate attempt to switch the discussion to a
different sport is hilarious since this discussion and the reason for conference
realignment is entirely football driven."Yet it was you and your
BYU buddies on these threads who were saying the exact same thing about
basketball as little as one year ago - that Utah would never compete in the PAC
12. Yet here we are and NOW you don't want to make comparisons to
basketball. Instead, you and your same buddies want to say the same thing about
football, that Utah will never compete with the best, when in fact you have no
idea (and somehow missed the 2013 Stanford game I might add).Bottom
line, no matter where Utah falls in ANY sport, you've gotta be in it to win
it. At least Utah's in it, and you know what? It feels good!
Dr. Ute:"Feckless prognostication" was awesome, but
can't you find a way to get your nouns and verbs to agree with each other?
@ Utefan4Lyf - "Considering you are cheering for a school who has lost more
bowl games in the last 20 years than they have won, and missed a few years as
well, you don't have too much to talk about."Bowl games?
You really want to talk bowl games? When will be the next year the Utes get
invited to a bowl game? I'm betting it will be in 2017, with a proud 6-6
record. Should be a fun trip for U to Albuquerque.
Travis Wilson, a.k.a. Jordan Wynn the sequel. Decent freshmen year, injuries
creep in during sophomore year and seem likely to continue.I'm
not a doctor, but based on the description of Travis' injury I have no idea
why he would keep playing. Don't risk the next 80 years of your life for
the next 80 days of football. Head injuries are not worth taking a chance on.
KolossTypical Utah fan comparison.If you compare just
the things in this little box here... say from 2004 to 2008 only,
or just the games that Travis performed well in, or
whatever comparison paints Utah in the best light possible.lol at
the always humerous, self-serving comparisons that Utah fans come up with.
Congratulations, Travis!For those of you who make it sound like
Wilson is fragile, consider that last season's combination of a significant
throwing hand injury, concussion, AND the discovery of a previously-unrecognized
intracranial artery condition won't happen again. If the preexisting
condition hadn't been found, he would have played the last two games of the
season. He's a big, strong kid, and may play the entire season this year
without an injury.I hope Wilson stays healthy, and has a productive
season. If neither comes to fruition, then it sounds like Thompson will be a
capable replacement. I expect that we'll see him at the helm on several
series of downs from the beginning of the season. He could provide a dangerous
change of pace to the opposing defense.Can't wait for the
season to begin. Go Utes!
Chewbacca:"Lotta sour grapes from our friends in blue. If
you're honest, you'd give your eye teeth to be "cannon fodder"
too. Anyone who thinks staying in the MWC was a better idea is nuts."You do realize the boys in blue take advantage of every scheduling
opportunity to play P5 even if on the road? You do realize the boys in blue have
played or scheduled every team in the PAC 12 since independence? You do realize
the boys in blue have been complimented by Larry as a P5 quality opponent? You
do realize the boys in blue are no longer in the MWC? You do realize the boys in
blue have their own ESPN contract? ... The boys in blue have never
been referenced as or ever claimed to be cannon fodder as u have claimed about
your beloved utes.
If you compare Wilson's first 6 games, pre-injury, to Taysom's final 6
(3 P5 teams, 2 mid majors and an FCS opponent) obviously Wilson is better. Per
play Wilson had 7.9 yards whether he ran or passed vs Hill's 5.6. He had
more Touchdowns through the air (13 vs 10) and on the ground (5 vs 3). Higher
total yards (1923 vs 1830) despite Hill having 84 more attempts rushing or
passing. Wilson had higher passing and rushing yards per attempt(8.4/7.9 vs
6.1/5.6, respectively). Against the P5 teams Utah was outscored by 4 points
while BYU was outscored by 35. Take your garbage schedule against 3 P5 teams,
Utah has 10, play the worst teams in the ACC and Pac-12. Keep bantering on about
whatever, you're just the little annoying Chihuahau the Rottweiler stomps
every year. On average.
This is about as surprising as Dorothy making it back to Kansas.
@ Duckhunter Utah plays one bay area team every year, and three of the four
north west teams. Utah will drop Stanford and OSU next year and pick up Cal and
Jrod Gman:@ IRS AgentA NASCAR offense is where they run around
in circles going nowhere.Best LOL I've had in weeks, Thanks!
Lotta sour grapes from our friends in blue. If you're honest, you'd
give your eye teeth to be "cannon fodder" too. That is the price you
have to pay to be among the relevant crowd. It's a starting point. You
take your lumps and work your way up from there. Anyone who thinks staying in
the MWC was a better idea is nuts. The game is different right now
for us than it was back in the MWC. We're not competing for BCS bowls
right now. We're trying to grow into our new position. Its tough. But
its still fun. Just look at our season ticket sales. I've been waiting in
line for years now to get season tickets. Keep up the good work
Coach Whit and company. Go Utes!
2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,I think that's a little bold to
predict. Utah will beat Idaho State, Fresno State, and Colorado. They will most
likely lose to Michigan, UCLA, USC, Oregon, Arizona State, and Stanford. Toss
ups are Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona. Utah will have to beat all 3
toss ups which I don't see happening. A 5-7 season isn't going to put
them in contention for a pac 12 title berth.
Spokane Ute"Cannon Fodder for the Big Boys? Like USC
basketball?"Your desperate attempt to switch the discussion to a
different sport is hilarious since this discussion and the reason for conference
realignment is entirely football driven.Unfortunately for U, Utah
failed miserably during their only window of opportunity to win the PAC 12 South
(when USC was on probation and the rest of the division finished below .500),
and now your forced to compete against a typical PAC 12 schedule.Whether you want to admit it, or not, U are cannon fodder for the big boys of
Troy Boy: Welcome to FantasyLand.As a USC alum myself, among
several sheepskins, I am truly awaiting USC's rise from the grave so that
Old/Stupid gets a wake-up call.In the meanwhile, if you think Utah
is a pushover, you need to revisit recent film.....Making feckless
prognostications about future events is easy. The only thing that matters is
backing it up on the field, and Utah is no pushover. Pretty clear
tht neither USC or UCLA are invincible; check with ASU!! LOL!!!
A QB is only as good as his offensive line. We may need all 6 scholarship
QB's by the end of the season. Without BYU on the schedule the Utes will
have trouble getting to 6 wins and bowl eligibility.
@Old But Not Stupid:"Yes, you are now in a "big boy"
conference, but you ARE NOT one of the big boys---and I doubt that you ever will
be."I take it you have a crystal ball that tells you this?
I'm pretty sure we won't be competing for a conference championship
within the next two years, but I can tell you we will see improvement. Considering you are cheering for a school who has lost more bowl games in the
last 20 years than they have won, and missed a few years as well, you don't
have too much to talk about.
TroyTownCannon Fodder for the Big Boys? Like USC basketball?
Hair today. Gone tomorrow?
We are so good ! just belonging to the pac13, i think we will go at least 9-8
this year !
DrUteThe reality is you waited your whole life to be invited to join
a big boy conference, only to learn once you got here, that you were only
invited to be cannon fodder for the big boys, nobody ever expected you to
actually "compete" for anything.The truth is, your
"era" never began because two flash-in-the-pan seasons can hardly be
considered an "era".Enjoy the paychecks; you're
fulfilling your purpose very well.
Utah made a sensible decision in naming Travis their starting QB. Thompson knows he finished behind the incumbant and won't suffer any hits
to his psyche. Wilson, on the other hand, would have suffered a huge mental blow
losing his starting job to an untested transfer.
Love all the Blue Boys claiming Red futility..... why do you care?Why not continue to pray for Divine Intervention for P5 membership!! In the meanwhile --- relax, get a cup of hot choc, and take a chill
pill.Transition into reality --- the train has left the station ---
your era is over.You are now officially: "Wanna-bYu".
Utefan4LyfWest Jordan, UT"One other point, no actual
'fan' would ever prepare for a 4 win season. It defies the definition
of the word." Yeah, you are being honest about fan being derived from
fanatic.But if you don't want to plan on a 4 win season, why on
earth did you join the PAC-12. Yes, you are now in a "big
boy" conference, but you ARE NOT one of the big boys---and I doubt that you
ever will be.Go Bruins!
Uteology"You posted on the wrong article, this isn't about
Tysom Hill. Wilson's career passing percentage is around 60%."You did not read his post....he was referring to BOTH TW and KT's 50%
completion rate in your latest scrimmage. If the last week's camp is added
to his career numbers he won't be "around" 60%....
@ IRS AgentA NASCAR offense is where they run around in circles going
2013 Ute Seniors-"And we WILL be in the hunt for the Pac 12
title and Rose Bowl game within the last 2 regular season games - that's
what makes being in a big boy conference so great.The South has so
many loaded teams that anyone but Colorado could win it."2013 Ut
Srs--you may be the only human being to evoke such an emotion. Contend for the
RB? Not in my lifetime.
I still believe Utah can be obtain a 7 win season. The receiving corp looks
amazing, the running backs are showing real potential, and Wilson can definitely
compete if healthy and focused. One other point, no actual "fan"
would ever prepare for a 4 win season. It defies the definition of the word. go Utes.
Good luck Travis. Stay healthy. Hope you have a season for the ages and lead
Utah into the upper echelons of the PAC-12.
Duckhunter,I apologize, I was under the impression it was a 2 year
rotation with Oregon & Stanford/ Washington & Cal, but what you say
makes sense. In that case, Utah's schedule will only get more difficult,
and I am not sure if there recruiting and coaching changes have improved enough
for them to turn the tide of their losing seasons. But we will see- I think
Whittingham is a good coach, and Utah is a good team, but nowhere near the level
they need to be to compete in the PAC-12. It will be interesting to
see how long Whittingham/Utah fans can weather the storm.
Glad to see Wilson get the starting nod, but I have serious doubts about his
durability and whether he'll survive that first blind side hit from a
blitzing linebacker.Thompson seems like a capable backup, but he has
absolutely no starting experience in college, so it's still a guessing game
as to how well he'll be able to handle the pressure of playing against PAC
12 defenses.With the schedule they have, the Utes will have to play
better than expected in order to qualify for a bowl.
What, exactly, is a NASCAR offense?
@Fight OnUnfortunately for utah oregon and stanford will not be
missing from next years schedule. utah plays a rotation of 4 years on 2 years
off with the pac12 north. That means that washington state and oregon state go
off of the schedule next year and washington and cal come back onto the schedule
along with oregon and stanford. oregon and stanford will be on the schedule for
2 more years after this year, 3 more years total. if anything the schedule for
utah gets even tougher when osu and wsu are off because washington comes back on
and utah has never beaten washington nor have they ever beaten washington's
new coach chris peterson who owned the utes when he coached at boise. So they
lose two games they could maybe win (although niether of them is anything more
than maybe) in wsu and osu, for one team they cannot ever beat in washington and
another they split with the two years they played them in the pac12 in cal. I forsee the futility continuing.
Our NASCAR is really fast and Travis will make our engine go way fast and win us
2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0/Chris BWhy do you set yourself up for
disappointment year after year? 7-5/ 8-4 is just not realistic
against your schedule. Utah struggles too much with winning on the road and
would have to upset no less than 4 ranked teams to even get to .500 - You just
don't have the depth of talent to compete week after week, you will finish
5th or 6th in the south. Be patient.Utah will have a winning season
next year with Oregon and Stanford missing from the schedule and Michigan at
home. We will see if Whittingham and Utah's fragile fanbase can hold
on until then.
Two observations.kendall thompson - not worthy of the hype utah
"fans" put on him when the transfer was anounced.connor
manning - not worthy of the hype utah "fans" placed on him when he
committed, signed, and for the last two years.
@2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0"we WILL go 7-7 or 8-4 and be the
surprise team in the Pac 12 conference of champions."I'm
not sure if I want to trust the prediction of somebody who says the utes will
either play 14 or 12 games this year."And we WILL be in the hunt
for the Pac 12 title and Rose Bowl game within the last 2 regular season
games"I'm not saying every preseason prediction is
accurate, but they are generally a good ballpark guess of where a team will
be.As much as I'd love to say BYU will go undefeated, they will
probably go 10-2 or 9-3 just like the predictions say.As much as you
love saying that quote above, take off the red goggles and view it objectively.
utah is most likely headed for a 4 or 5 win season. If they really play well,
maybe they'll be 6-6, or by your math, 7-7.
Yankee24,Within 2 games left in the regular season Utah will be in
contention for the Pac 12 South title - watch and see my friend.
Down underSalt Lake City, UTWOW, 50% or less completion rate
or less for the two best QB's. ------------You
posted on the wrong article, this isn't about Tysom Hill. Wilson's
career passing percentage is around 60%.
2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,I like the enthusiasm but let's
not get ahead of ourselves. The Utes won't be competing for a Pac 12 title
this year. In a couple years yes, but not this year.
This is the right decision in my opinion (not that any of us has a clue in
comparison with the coaching staff). I simply feel much like others have
expressed, that Travis has been a very good QB when he's healthy. But in
addition to that, he's come into the season in incredible shape and now has
two seasons under his belt at Utah. That experience and level of comfort is
typically part of the pay-off that comes with having an upper-classman playing
the QB position.There are still some question marks with this team, but
this team has the ability to surprise some people if the Oline and the defensive
back field can both be solid. Here's to hoping. Congrats to Travis and go
Get a haircut! Good grief, at least look like a football player.
WOW, 50% or less completion rate or less for the two best QB's. That
sounds like NASCAR will be running in high gear. LOL. Good thing they have a
I'm glad the decision making process is over. I am looking forward to the
improved TW. With a vastly improved wide receiving corp and improved running
backs, this will be Travis' breakout year as long as he stays healthy. He
is one tough kid, and I am glad he is at the helm.Go Utes!
I was really hoping Thompson would win the job. At times Wilson looked good; but
he threw way too many ints. Let's get this season started and let the chips
fall where they may.Go Utah!
I had been hearing this for a few weeks, so no real surprise. Travis
Wilson and Coach Christensen are going to get this NASCAR offense going and we
WILL go 7-7 or 8-4 and be the surprise team in the Pac 12 conference of
champions.And we WILL be in the hunt for the Pac 12 title and Rose
Bowl game within the last 2 regular season games - that's what makes being
in a big boy conference so great.The South has so many loaded teams
that anyone but Colorado could win it.Can't wait!Go
At this point, he's still the best passing QB in the state behind
Keeton.Good to know that after 3 years we've finally found some
capable PAC-12 backups!Congrats Wilson, now step up and take your
game to the next level.Go UTES!
Wilson has shown to be a very capable QB when fully healthy. The only problem is
I'm not sure he'll stay healthy. Then again the backup last year is
5th on the depth chart now.
Probably a safe Choice by Whittingham. Wilson has been decent when healthy.
It will be interesting to see if his head injury will effect the way he
plays this season. And whether or not he remains healthy through the season is
dependent on whether the O-Line has improved or not. With Utah breaking in
a new offensive scheme and OC, I think they may have a slow start, but if they
can keep their starters healthy and maintain the tough defensive play we have
seen the past few years they may get to 5 or 6 wins. The PAC-12 is
going to be brutal this year. Utah will have to bring their A game every week.
Its great to have two of the six Ute QB's stand out, but I was wondering
why Coach Whit said they were going to start "tayloring" their offense
to the QB? Doesn't this make it more difficult for a team when a backup QB
@Argo - I agree, but it's going to take a consistently huge effort from
Wilson to do much this season. Let's hope he can do it; if his play is
anything like practices and scrimmages then the U is in for a looong year. And
who knows what the first hit he takes will do, backups better be ready to go.
Congratulations and best wishes to Travis. Stay healthy my friend.Also, it's great knowing that the Utes have a capable back-up.Go Utes! Can't wait to see them play.
Not really a big surprise here. I think Whit played up the competition being
'wide open' to keep Wilson from getting complacent, and to hopefully
sharpen his decision making ability.
Good news for ALL of Utah's opponents.
stay ready, Kendall, stay ready