Balan,Even I agree with you. "- two athletes wanting
to attend a different school than the one they originally signed with. Good for
them if that is what they want." I never once got upset that
Harvey transferred, he should be able to if he wants to. I can be accused of
many things, but I'm not hypocritical.
pocy,But didn't he commit to Utah State just as Harvey
committed to Utah? I'm a Ute who supports any kid being able to go where
they want. And yes, I was embarrassed by the Ute coaches and ute "fans"
who had such an issue with Harvey transferring. Each kid should be able to go
where they want, even if that includes changing.
utahcountyute - There is no difference. They both left the school they
originally signed with and went somewhere else. When the announcement was made
is immaterial.You have no proof - not a shred - that anyone with BYU
ties tried to persuade Langi to attend BYU. We also have no proof that anyone
from Utah (missionaries, contacts, mission president, etc) tried to convince
Fanaika to leave USU - but they might have. And even if someone did talk to
them about changing teams, so what??? The final decision was made by the
athletes with no one pointing a gun at their heads to force their decision one
way or the other.And yet Langi and BYU gets lambasted by Utah fans
whereas a transfer in Utah's favor is viewed 100% differently. You
don't see the hypocrisy???As far as Fanaika sitting out a year
and Langi not having to, it is not BYU's or Langi's fault that
Whittingham screwed up.Take off the crimson-colored glasses and see
this for what it is - two athletes wanting to attend a different school than the
one they originally signed with. Good for them if that is what they want.
BalanThe difference might have been that Langi announced his
intentions even before he got home from said mission through Vai in his article.
Fanaika walked on to the Utes with no guarantee from the Utah staff. Pretty big
difference in my mind."Proof that Langi was forced to attend byU
because of threats of physical harm or excommunication"? Where did that even
come from?Good luck to both kids.
Amazing all the excuses or justification for this kid transferring to Utah.
Fact is that he was a USU student when he went on his mission and ended up at
Utah after he came home. No different than what happened to Langi.Fanaika wanted to transfer to Utah to be closer to home; Langi wanted to
transfer to BYU to be in an environment he felt comfortable with. They both
chose what they wanted. Have yet to see proof that Langi was forced to attend
BYU because of threats of physical harm or excommunication. Seems to me he
ultimately made the decision that was best for him, just as Fanaika did.And yet Utah fans continue to praise the one and slam the other.Hypocrisy at its finest.
I don't understand why U and BYU fans even care anymore, football is
changing and neither school will be relevant in the new politics of it all.
Frankly, I have no problem with a kid coming home from a mission and choosing to
transfer, because things can change significantly in two years. I just get
tired of the screeching and renting of clothing from the utes when a kid decides
to transfer to BYU. Funny how things are different when the shoe is on the
I was one of Jason's coaches at PG and I can tell you he is the real deal.
Would have liked to see him in Cougar Blue, but I will be rooting for him just
the same. His little brother Brandon (by little I mean 6'4 325) is playing
for Stanford when he gets back from his mission. They are a great family.
Godspeed Sefita. Get better soon.
I see Utah poached another returned missionary. Scandalous.
@naval vetOh, right!!! I don't know how I missed that. :)
Jefe-Ute:Don't forget...the Utah coaching staff ALSO furtively
infected Fanaika's father with colon cancer to ensure he wouldn't
return to Logan.
Facts:1- played freshman year at usu, then left school right after the
season.2- after the auburn game came back to usu and played his sophomore
year then left again right after the season.3- served a mission for about
8 months then came back to utah but could not play because he was not released
Interesting how Langi comes up in this dialog.Circumstances could
hardly be different.... but of course no need to deal with the facts if you
live in The Blue Bubble.Jason obviously has found success at the U
as an RM just as many others have, and clearly Harvey had that option as well;
religious affiliation is not an issue on The Hill. White shirt and tie or T
shirt and shorts, you can be what you want to be.--- Best of luck to
both players, hopefully they will achieve their personal goals and ultimately
Yup, Utah totally recruited him by making him walk on to the team and earn a
scholarship. Compare that to Langi who was told a scholarship was waiting for
him when he returned from his mission. Completely the same thing!!On
another note, great great article. It is good to see friendly competition and a
a great attitude from Fainaka. Should be a great season!
@ balan,How about the fact his mission president didn't recommend he
switch schools and attend Utah.
pocyUte - Nice try. Balan's comment is accurate, and your attempt to
sidestep Ute hypocrisy at its finest failed.
Balan et al,There is no hypocrisy on Utah's part with Langi and
nothing was swept under the rug. Fanaika sat out a year as per NCAA rules and
walked on without a scholarship, whereas Langi used a technicality to get around
the rule which means that Utah followed the rules in both instances. The fact
that Langi is on scholarship at BYU within a couple of months of returning from
his mission is much more suggestive of recruiting than Fanaika.
His major reason was to be close to the family and especially his father who is
attempting to defeat cancer. Far different than the peer pressure subjected to
him while on his mission. Why do I say that ? I went on a mission to England and
you would not believe the initial reaction that I was returning to the Utes. I
went anyway and got my degrees. I pray his father recovers. Go
Sounds like a great young man with his priorities in order.Godspeed
to him in the classroom and on the field.
BalanNice try. How about the fact that almost the whole coaching
staff that was at USU, including the coach with whom he had the closest
relationship, is gone? How about the fact that Utah is much closer to home than
USU is? He couldn't live in Utah county and play at USU, could he? How
about that he walked on at Utah, so he paid his way to go there last year? Looks
like you are just conveniently sweeping facts under the rug so you can spin it
Balan, I gave you a "like" because I was thinking the same thing. I
wonder if USU is feeling the same way? Utah owes Langi an apology after doing
Interesting how BYU is accused of recruiting players who choose to transfer to
the Y after a mission, but with Utah it is conveniently swept under the rug.Hypocrisy at its finest.