Published: Friday, Aug. 15 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Great letter. Very well thought out and written. Expect to be blasted today by
the right wing cons. They don't believe anyone should be paid except for
their 1 percent buddies. They are the new kings and we are their serfs.
This whole notion of tipping is a very clever invention of restaurant owners by
which they have been able to get out of paying their servers a fair wage. They
successfully have conned American society into thinking that this is the
customer's responsibility, when it really is not. After all, the customer
already is paying through the nose, based on the exorbitant menu price.Not only do these restaurateurs falsely guilt us into thinking their
employeee's wages are our responsibility when it really is theirs, they
also scare us with false propaganda that if they must pay their servers more
than a lousy $2.13 an hour in the year 2014, then their menu prices
"must" go up. It is, of course, a lie. In-N-Out Burger
pays their people more even though their menu prices are lower and their food
ingredients are more expensive.How is this possible?Greed. Paying one's server $2.13 an hour is disgusting and shameful and
finally can only be explained by Greed. The less greedy
restaurateur pays his worker a fair wage. Again the diner already has paid an
exorbitantly high menu price to have food handed to him.
Part of the problem Tessa, is that you apparently live in Utah. Tipping is not
exactly a strong point in Utah.I still like the LaVell Edwards line
about BYU and bowl games."We used to go to the Holiday
Bowl," he said, "and our fans would bring a 50 dollar bill and the Ten
Commandments and break neither." ...
Personally, I think you should earn a living wage for your labors and that
tipping should be abolished.
I agree, for good service we should tip more. One piece of advice I'd like
to pass on to food servers is this. When you know your customer is nearing the
end of the meal, get them the bill ASAP. People want to leave when through.
Many times I have been so frustrated at waiting for the bill that I've
lowered the tip because I've felt neglected.
Tipping is nothing more than a repub Ponzi scheme. It prevents the business from
actually being held accountable for paying it's employees. Whether
it's Walmart placing the burden of paying living wages onto tax payers (who
subsidize Walmart by paying for their employees' food stamps) or Utah
restaurants who refuse to pay living wages and place the burden onto
patrons' tips. It's all the same.Businesses are refusing
to be accountable.This is why we need a fundamental change in
America. We need to get back to an America where businesses were accountable and
paid living wages and people could actually live off their wages. No one can
live off walmart's wages just like no one can live off $2.13 an hour.
Tessa,You should request better than $2.13 an hour from your EMPLOYER
instead of browbeating your customers for better tips?$2.13/hour is
ridiculous. Your services are surely worth more than that to your boss (and
his business).============As for blaming diners, and
putting the guilt on them... If you deserve a raise... ask your employer and
show him how you've improved your skills and how it helps him make more
money (that's what I have to do)... Don't just demand everybody pay
you more in tips (while accepting $2.15/hour from the restaurant and expecting
diners to feel bad and fill the gap).Tell him to charge more for
meals and pass some of it along to employees... Then you are assured to get
more (not just hoping for more tips from kind customers). ============Diners should pay a fair tip for sure. Most do.
The few who don't probably won't be changed by this plea. They
probably don't read.IMO Tipping should be done away with (as in
other countries). Charge what it takes to run your business (including paying
your employees a living wage)!
@ 2 bites$2.13 per hr is standard for Utah restaurants. If Tessa
demands a raise then she'll quickly be fired and replaced by some other
cheap worker trying to make their way through college. Workers don't have
any leverage in these types of jobs, especially here in Utah. Hence, why the
government, which is supposed to promote our welfare and watch out for the
little guy, needs to step in and help equalize this battle.$2.13 per
hr is a joke. Yet, only the government can fix this. If the government
hadn't already demanded $2.13 per hr restaurants would still be paying
their employees $1.50 per hr.We need a fundamental change here in
America. Far too long big business has thrown it's weight around.
The best and most effective way too have fewer employers (jobs) in America is to
keep raising minimum wages! Forcing employers to pay for skills that do not
exist is the best way to eliminate employers and eventually employees and with
Mountanman is absolutely correct. Rather than whinning about low wages,
unskilled workers should obtain the training and skills necessary for a higher
wage.Instead of devoting their efforts to rancor and acrimony, the
unskilled should devote their time to obtaining training and education. That is
the way to achieve success. The liberals like to complain about wage
inequality. In doing so, they ignore the fact that inequality is a good thing
when based on ability, work ethic, and skills. The communists aimed for wage
equality, and that destroyed their entire economies, and their very countries.
@ 2 bits"Diners should pay a fair tip for sure. Most do. The few
who don't probably won't be changed by this plea. They probably
don't read."You've obviously never worked in a
restaurant before. All restaurants in Utah pay their servers $2.13 per hr. In
Utah, tip percentages rank some of the lowest in the nation. So your comment
that "most diners pay their fair tip" is completely unfounded.And when you're only getting $2.13 per hr, is it any wonder why
Tessa's stats are so prevalent? Why servers are twice as likely to be on
John Charity and Mountain,Please read the letter again. Tessa isn't
complaining about minimum wage. She isn't being paid minimum wage.
She's being paid about 1/3 of minimum wage. Are you justifying businesses
paying someone $2.13 per hour? If so that is laughable, absolutely laughable.
Scary thing is, I think both of you do think that's ok.
Tipping is unfair, unproductive and immoral. It has little to do with the
quality of service, the quality of the food or the experience of having someone
pretend to be your slave. If it did effect those things we would negotiate the
tip before the service is performed. The reason wages are so low is
because the individual has no bargaining power against the business men and
their united front against employees. If employees were allowed to have unions
of working people, they could negotiate proper wages. Uncontrolled capitalism is the bane of America and a very large part of that
is the unfair treatment of workers.
@Mountanman That is absolutely incorrect. Studies comparing adjacent
counties in different states where one state increases the minimum wage showed
no harm to the job market in that county despite there being a neighboring
county next door that didn't increase it.
Seattle has the highest min wage in the nation, $15 dollars an hr. You can see
the destructive results in their unemployment rate of 4 percent.Australia
has a min wage of $17 dollars an hr. Their economy has been crushed so bad
because of min wage that they now have a 5 percent unemployment rate.Why can't liberals see how higher min wage kills jobs? Oh wait...
Well, Tessa, you have to realize two things:1. Waitressing is a
low-skilled occupation, making competition for those jobs relatively high.
Businesses has the right to hire and pay at the lowest possible rates.2. Getting an education will mean a different occupation and very likely
significantly higher take-home pay.
Employees are simple tools of a business operation. They are purchased,
controlled and used to accomplish business purposes. They are not the
consumer's agent in the obtaining of a product or service, they are only an
extension of the business will. If we would improve the status of
the people known as employees, we would change their status to that of the
independent contractor, free to negotiate their own contract, and free to use
any and all resources such as unions, associations and such. Just like other
businessmen have. Another alternative would be to revise the
capitalistic model to recognize that all business, not the individuals business
operations, is owned by the society as a whole and society should participate in
the profits of business. Then people would receive personal income according
to their worth to society rather than to an individual business operation.
@ wrzTessa, you need to realize 2 things1. If your owner
has to pay you a living wage then he might have to settle for the 500 foot yacht
instead of the 600 foot yacht.2. Conceding to you means that he
admits that he's been gouging employees. For him, this is a matter of
control. Business owners want to keep you in your place and ex decide power and
dominion over you.Wrz, what happens when all the high skilled jobs
are over saturated with qualified candidates? Will their wages continue to sink
too while the top percent continue to see their wages and golden parachutes
skyrocket?Wouldn't it be nice if government could regulate
this? Oh wait, these business owners have already bought off government because
bribery is now considered a form of free speech.What is the 99
percent of us supposed to do?
To show you how far to the right we've shifted, consider what happened just
a little over 100 years ago under President Teddy Roosevelt.Coal
miners in New England went on strike for better working conditions and higher
wages. The mine owners told the workers that they'd never cave to their
demands. The strike went on for weeks and months. The owners, the 1 percenters,
could care less about their workers and consumers. They were already
billionaires and would remain rich even if the mines closed down. As
the strike wore on, worries about the coming winter came to the White House.
Most of New England was going to freeze because coal wasn't being mined.
"Liberal" republican President Teddy Roosevelt threatened the mine
owners with the national guard to cave to the workers' demands.Could you imagine any president, let alone a republican one, today threatening
business with military action?Could you imagine the outrage from the
right if President Obama threatened Walmart to pay their workers living wages or
face military action?My how our country has shifted to the right!
@Maverick,Yes, maybe the best solution is for the Federal Government to
set wages for all restaurant types in all cities, and States.Hint...
the Federal Government doesn't know what it takes to live in Beaver Utah vs
Manhattan NY. So blindly setting the same government-mandated wage for
restaurants in Beaver as in NY probably doesn't make sense (rent, etc, are
higher in NY than in Beaver UT). That's the problem with turning it over
to the Federal Government (besides Constitution saying it's not one of the
enumerated jobs given the Feds).Free-Economy-principles SHOULD work
in Utah (in theory). If all waitresses refused to work for $2.15... bosses
would get tired of running the business AND having to get up from their desk and
wait on tables too... and they would be forced to pay more.But as
long as we have a cheep source of labor willing to do it for #2.15/hour... that
won't work. That's why I encourage ALL waitresses to hit up their
boss, instead of accepting $2.15 from him... and begging for bigger tips from
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