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Published: Thursday, Aug. 14 2014 10:00 p.m. MDT

Updated: Friday, Aug. 15 2014 10:38 a.m. MDT

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iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

I found this movie to be a study in the contrasts of two plans for human progress.

There is no choice in the utopian world. Only compliance and no individual growth.

The message at the end of the movie, to me, was that we should all be allowed to make mistakes so that we can learn and grow.

This was definitely a Christian message movie about man-kinds need for a Savior. In spite of our mistakes the Savior's grace allows us to return to....."loves pure light".

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@iron&clay – “This was definitely a Christian message movie about man-kinds need for a Savior.”

To me the message was exactly the opposite.

It is our propensity to not take responsibility for our actions and to cede our autonomy (and choices) to others deemed wiser & more powerful (what a “savior” represents) that always gets us into trouble in the first place.

Any religion or ideology that preaches the savior motif, no matter how much they couch their rhetoric in ideas like free agency or “the people,” is always most concerned with conformity, obedience and convincing people to give up some amount of autonomy (and often money) today in order for a better future. And this pernicious idea is infinitely more powerful and destructive when that better future is in an eternal afterlife.

There is no better or easier way to turn people into pliant sheep than this… as the movie makes abundantly clear.

the greater truth
Bountiful, UT

@Tyler D

What about leftist elites?

"It is our propensity to not take responsibility for our actions and to cede our autonomy (and choices) to others deemed wiser & more powerful (what a “savior” represents) that always gets us into trouble in the first place. "

This statement defines the left, the progressives, letting government or elites define what good or best for us. and control every aspect our lives.

While extreme religion is a problem, it really a small problem, compared to what secularists and progressives have done over last century or two.

It would wise to look at all ideologies that are seeking and gaining control, rather than the needless obsessing over mostly harmless and mostly do good for society religion.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@the greater truth – “… rather than the needless obsessing over mostly harmless…”

I’m curious what you think is so bad about what secularists and progressives have been doing for the last century or two.

Is it so bad that we no longer have slavery; that women can vote; that we have an eight hour work day; that we try to protect the environment; that we take care of our elderly (a small sample of what progressives have championed)?

And as long as these things are instituted through the democratic process (we are free to choose them or not), I don’t see a big problem. If anything a progressive worldview is in danger of moving us closer to countries like Sweden (hardly a place a mass suffering and unhappiness).

Or we could choose to give the reigns entirely to religion. Curious if you would want to live in any of the countries where religion is the dominant political force – for example, Pakistan, Honduras, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc., etc…

Guess I would prefer to take my chances with the secularists…

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