Published: Thursday, Aug. 14 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
@RC in WJ,I don't "hate" Obama. I guess I just expect more
of him than you do. I expect him to at least TRY to deliver on the
promises he made during his inspirational speeches to the youth of America in
his Presidential Campaign.Has he even TRIED to solve the racial
divide???What has he done???I didn't say Republicans have
done anything to solve the racial divide recently. I think they are equally
pathetic. So don't expect me to defend them...============When the President dances the night away with a bunch of rich folks in
Martha's Vinyard while America burns, and says NOTHING... I have a problem
with that. Get on the dang TV and say something to bring the people together.
Tell them to stop the rioting and looting! They probably voted
for you... maybe they will listen to you now...And every other time
a racial issue has come up... he's either done/said NOTHING... or said
something to make it WORSE!I just expected MORE from him (on solving
America's racial divide)... I guess you didn't?... or you would be
with me asking him to DO SOMETHING.
The left was never as hateful toward W as the right has been towards Obama. Did
Bush ever have to show his birth certificate? How many times was he sued? Did
the minority leader of the senate ever declare that his job was to make Bush a
one term President?
The whole Presidency was tainted on inauguration day 2009 when the powers of the
Republican party met at the Caucus Room in DC and conspired to commit
legislative obstruction an act of sedition at best. Less than one week later
Mitch McConnell confirmed this strategy speaking to the Heritage Foundation. The
mouthpiece of the Republican Party (Rush Limbaugh) repeated the strategy shortly
after that. Republican legislators have voted against and filibustered at record
rates and when you consider that most of this was done toward their own
co-sponsored bills you might want take notes. Dems had a filibuster proof Senate
exactly 72 days. This is the game invented and perfected by Republicans and they
practiced it with the previous Democratic POTUS. As far as the TP's go they
would have had a noble objective if a) they had not acted as though the corrupt
marriage of business and politics was an Obama invention and b) they had not
sold their soul to the highest bidder which starts with Koch and is enforced by
ALEC. This conspiracy is as plain as the nose on your face and was blessed by
Obama, like Clinton, faced gridlock, neither side was willing to budge. Unlike
Clinton, who learned to compromise, Obama has declared himself ruler. We need the tea party to counter the progressive Democrats. One group is far
to the left, one far to the right. With 31% of the country satisfied
over his immigration policies and only 33 percent who like his foreign policy,
he's lost the country.
@ the educatorWell, let's see. There was the Texas NG witch
hunt. And ad hominem attacks by every liberal news outlet and talk show host
out there. Yes, he may have done some interesting "speachifyin", but he
did not deserve the vile rants against his person he received and continues to
receive from those same sources. Harry Reid even called him a loser and a liar.
I don't recall nearly that much ad hominem venom from mainstream
Republicans about Obama. Never heard a national figure accuse Obama of being a
loser or liar, except Joe Wilson, who apologized.IMO, the mainstream
media plays up stupid comments from fringe groups whom they label as main stream
republicans (birthers are a good example - and NO, Trump is not a main stream
republican), but don't seem to give stupid comments from mainstream
democrats the same airplay. By the way, before you accuse me of
being a FOX news dupe, I do not listen to Rush, Hannity, Beck et al, because
they seem only to whine and want to stir up emotion without having solutions to
present. But I'm sure tired of Obama whining that everything was
I am trying to figure out how a political activist group can have so much
influence over the party that had not just a majority in Congress, but a
supermajority. Do you realize that during the first 2 years of Obama's
administration that he couldn't even get his own party to back up his
plans? To get the ACA passed, he had to make sweetheart deals to convince his
own party members to vote in favor, then had to use loopholes in the procedures
to get it passed?Also, if everything is the fault of the Tea Party,
why is it that the US was hemorrhaging jobs until the Democrats lost power, and
a few Tea Party people were able to get in. Why is it that things have only
improved since the Tea Party has been raising questions about Obama's
policies?Obama's mistake was running for a second term. He
should have just bowed out and retired so that he could work on his golf game
without being interrupted by the crises he started.To
"ugottabkidn" Since when did Harry Reid join the Republicans? He has
been the biggest obstruction to debating laws in the Senate.
Rufus: "Can you mention a time when a President has been despised by the GOP
more than now?"Probably not, but I can't definitely mention
a time when a president has been despised by the DEMS more than Obama is now by
the GOP...our last president, George W. Bush.So many commentators
have such a short memory and seem to forget all the vile things that they said
about GWB and blamed everything on him (and still do).Of course, in
their minds everything they said about Bush was true so that didn't count,
while now all the critisism of Obama from the right must be patently false.
Those who claim that Obama doesn't compromise...What do you
call increasing tax rates to those who make above $500k from $200 is called?What do you call Obamacare (originally proposed by Heritage and passed by
Romney) instead of what he originally proposed, a single payer system?What
do you call the stimulus he passed which included 1/3rd tax breaks from his
original $2 trillion job works bills?Has Obama slashed defense spending?
Obama is actually a compromiser. In previous decades hed be
recognized as a moderate republican in the same way as Eisenhower. Sadly, the right is so far off the cliff falling into fascism that everything
that isn't anarchy is considered "left" and
"uncompromising."Even Reagan today would be abandoned by the
right as a RINO.
EducatorI'm sorry, but you seem to misremember just how reviled
and hated President Bush really was. Remember Dan Rather and that stuff about
the Air National Guard? Turned out it was all trumped up by his enemies to try
to derail his reelection. Remember the one man show put on by Will Farrell that
did nothing but mock Bush. Remember when it was OK to speak of Bush being
assassinated, a book even being written about it being a good thing? And as
routerguy mentioned about, the things Harry Reid, and others in government, said
about Bush was pretty extreme. I'm not saying that Obama has not had his
share of abuse, but certainly Bush was not given kid glove treatment either.
And truth is, all Presidents suffer this kind of stuff. People on your side
need to get past Obama being something special. He isn't, and is proving
it every day. Just check the polling data. America has pretty much had it with
him. Only his 33% die hard supporters stick with him on many issues anymore.
To "Rufus T. Firefly" you say that Obama inherited a mess. Wasn't
Obama a US Senator prior to being elected President? Doesn't that make him
part of the problem?Also, what has Obama done different from Bush
other than the magnitude of the programs and spending?When Obama
took office we were under $10Trillion in debt (according to the GAO), since
Obama took office we have added over $7 Trillion in debt, that is nearly double
the amount of debt that was added under Bush.What has Obama done
that is any different than Bush?
@rufus,Yes, the economy was in a mess, caused to a great degree by
the subprime loan debacle, which in turn was caused by the pet projects of Dems
like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. While Republicans were not innocent in the
mess, it was really the rallying cry of racism by dems, as well as a filibuster
in 2005 by dems in the senate, that prevented reforms to Freddy and Fannie; they
went bankrupt, banks failed, and the domino effect kicked in. Yes, Obama
inherited a mess, but 5 years later he hasn't improved it much. I say Obama has never taken responsibility for significant failures, but I can
be taught. Give me one good example of a time when Obama took full
responsibility for a failed policy or program. And if your response is that he
hasn't because all the failures were truly not his fault, either he
hasn't lived enough, or you are wearing some pretty rosy colored glasses.
John Burroughs said "A man can fail many times, but he is not a failure
until he begins to blame somebody else."The hypocrisy and double
standards are just as common on your side of the isle.
@Rufus T. Firefly,Re "Personally, I've not heard "Obama whine
that everything is Bush's fault"... you're not listening then...
How about Obama's constant reference to any attempts from Republicans to do
ANYTHING as, "the people who made the mess trying to tell him how to clean
"The whole Presidency was tainted on inauguration day 2009 when the powers
of the Republican party met at the Caucus Room in DC and conspired to commit
legislative obstruction"...Democrats held the same meeting the
day Bush took office. Nanacy Pelosi even got on national TV and announced
their plan to obstruct EVERYTING Bush wanted to do...
@happy2bhere:"I think Obama is well on track for the liberal
version."Indeed he is... which would include a fair about of
socialism in the form of government healthcare as well as an open borders policy
for the entire world to come in and partake of our largess... which we
don't have with a national $17 trillion debt scheduled to be $20 trillion
by the time Barack Hussein Obama leaves the white House.But
we'll have to wait another year or so to get him gone... Whoa! His protege
is waiting in the wings to take the reins for more socialism.
The last republican concerned about doing the right thing was Abraham Lincoln.
Ernest T. Bass: "The last republican concerned about doing the right thing
was Abraham Lincoln."To which a Republican might respond
"...and we are still waiting for the first Democrat...".Such
political sniping doesn't do much to advance the debate over the proper way
to lead the country.
@2 bits -- This morning you said if only Obama would call a press conference
about the issues in Missouri. He did. Gonna give him credit for doing exactly
what you suggested?
@routerguy:"The reality is Obama had absolutely no administrative
experience and no real-world experience, just a great oratory skill."Well, we know for sure that he's great at reading the
teleprompter.@Wonder:"This morning you said if only Obama
would call a press conference about the issues in Missouri. He did."True. He gave a speech condemning the police for trying to maintain the
peace until they finally all gave up and went home.He also mentioned
that there needed to be transparency in the situation. That's right
transparency... he being the least transparent White House occupant in a long
This is the best letter of the year. I nominate it!
To routerguy, a simple internet search on lowest approval ratings would show
that you are completely wrong about President Obama's approval ratings. In
fact every president since Kennedy has had lower approval ratings than our
current President . That includes the previous Bush presidency. Check your
facts before making statements that are blantently untrue.
@ wrz, Ralph Reid and other conservatives are saying the same kinds of things
about needing to transform the country. How is this any different? It's
about leading us in a new directions, and that's why we elect new people.
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