"There are some things that are true even if George W. Bush said
them"Sadly the same thing couldn't be said about this
letter writer, or bho and this other worshippers, who make excuses for the liar
and chief everyday in these blogs.
Obama's mistake?Thinking he could work with a Congress who does
not really care about the welfare or betterment of America, but who's
only stated goal and purpose was to make him a ONE term President.
@ wrz, Ralph Reid and other conservatives are saying the same kinds of things
about needing to transform the country. How is this any different? It's
about leading us in a new directions, and that's why we elect new people.
To routerguy, a simple internet search on lowest approval ratings would show
that you are completely wrong about President Obama's approval ratings. In
fact every president since Kennedy has had lower approval ratings than our
current President . That includes the previous Bush presidency. Check your
facts before making statements that are blantently untrue.
This is the best letter of the year. I nominate it!
@routerguy:"The reality is Obama had absolutely no administrative
experience and no real-world experience, just a great oratory skill."Well, we know for sure that he's great at reading the
teleprompter.@Wonder:"This morning you said if only Obama
would call a press conference about the issues in Missouri. He did."True. He gave a speech condemning the police for trying to maintain the
peace until they finally all gave up and went home.He also mentioned
that there needed to be transparency in the situation. That's right
transparency... he being the least transparent White House occupant in a long
@2 bits -- This morning you said if only Obama would call a press conference
about the issues in Missouri. He did. Gonna give him credit for doing exactly
what you suggested?
Ernest T. Bass: "The last republican concerned about doing the right thing
was Abraham Lincoln."To which a Republican might respond
"...and we are still waiting for the first Democrat...".Such
political sniping doesn't do much to advance the debate over the proper way
to lead the country.
The last republican concerned about doing the right thing was Abraham Lincoln.
@happy2bhere:"I think Obama is well on track for the liberal
version."Indeed he is... which would include a fair about of
socialism in the form of government healthcare as well as an open borders policy
for the entire world to come in and partake of our largess... which we
don't have with a national $17 trillion debt scheduled to be $20 trillion
by the time Barack Hussein Obama leaves the white House.But
we'll have to wait another year or so to get him gone... Whoa! His protege
is waiting in the wings to take the reins for more socialism.
@Rufus T. Firefly,Re "Personally, I've not heard "Obama whine
that everything is Bush's fault"... you're not listening then...
How about Obama's constant reference to any attempts from Republicans to do
ANYTHING as, "the people who made the mess trying to tell him how to clean
"The whole Presidency was tainted on inauguration day 2009 when the powers
of the Republican party met at the Caucus Room in DC and conspired to commit
legislative obstruction"...Democrats held the same meeting the
day Bush took office. Nanacy Pelosi even got on national TV and announced
their plan to obstruct EVERYTING Bush wanted to do...
@rufus,Yes, the economy was in a mess, caused to a great degree by
the subprime loan debacle, which in turn was caused by the pet projects of Dems
like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. While Republicans were not innocent in the
mess, it was really the rallying cry of racism by dems, as well as a filibuster
in 2005 by dems in the senate, that prevented reforms to Freddy and Fannie; they
went bankrupt, banks failed, and the domino effect kicked in. Yes, Obama
inherited a mess, but 5 years later he hasn't improved it much. I say Obama has never taken responsibility for significant failures, but I can
be taught. Give me one good example of a time when Obama took full
responsibility for a failed policy or program. And if your response is that he
hasn't because all the failures were truly not his fault, either he
hasn't lived enough, or you are wearing some pretty rosy colored glasses.
John Burroughs said "A man can fail many times, but he is not a failure
until he begins to blame somebody else."The hypocrisy and double
standards are just as common on your side of the isle.
To "Rufus T. Firefly" you say that Obama inherited a mess. Wasn't
Obama a US Senator prior to being elected President? Doesn't that make him
part of the problem?Also, what has Obama done different from Bush
other than the magnitude of the programs and spending?When Obama
took office we were under $10Trillion in debt (according to the GAO), since
Obama took office we have added over $7 Trillion in debt, that is nearly double
the amount of debt that was added under Bush.What has Obama done
that is any different than Bush?
EducatorI'm sorry, but you seem to misremember just how reviled
and hated President Bush really was. Remember Dan Rather and that stuff about
the Air National Guard? Turned out it was all trumped up by his enemies to try
to derail his reelection. Remember the one man show put on by Will Farrell that
did nothing but mock Bush. Remember when it was OK to speak of Bush being
assassinated, a book even being written about it being a good thing? And as
routerguy mentioned about, the things Harry Reid, and others in government, said
about Bush was pretty extreme. I'm not saying that Obama has not had his
share of abuse, but certainly Bush was not given kid glove treatment either.
And truth is, all Presidents suffer this kind of stuff. People on your side
need to get past Obama being something special. He isn't, and is proving
it every day. Just check the polling data. America has pretty much had it with
him. Only his 33% die hard supporters stick with him on many issues anymore.
Those who claim that Obama doesn't compromise...What do you
call increasing tax rates to those who make above $500k from $200 is called?What do you call Obamacare (originally proposed by Heritage and passed by
Romney) instead of what he originally proposed, a single payer system?What
do you call the stimulus he passed which included 1/3rd tax breaks from his
original $2 trillion job works bills?Has Obama slashed defense spending?
Obama is actually a compromiser. In previous decades hed be
recognized as a moderate republican in the same way as Eisenhower. Sadly, the right is so far off the cliff falling into fascism that everything
that isn't anarchy is considered "left" and
"uncompromising."Even Reagan today would be abandoned by the
right as a RINO.
Rufus: "Can you mention a time when a President has been despised by the GOP
more than now?"Probably not, but I can't definitely mention
a time when a president has been despised by the DEMS more than Obama is now by
the GOP...our last president, George W. Bush.So many commentators
have such a short memory and seem to forget all the vile things that they said
about GWB and blamed everything on him (and still do).Of course, in
their minds everything they said about Bush was true so that didn't count,
while now all the critisism of Obama from the right must be patently false.
I am trying to figure out how a political activist group can have so much
influence over the party that had not just a majority in Congress, but a
supermajority. Do you realize that during the first 2 years of Obama's
administration that he couldn't even get his own party to back up his
plans? To get the ACA passed, he had to make sweetheart deals to convince his
own party members to vote in favor, then had to use loopholes in the procedures
to get it passed?Also, if everything is the fault of the Tea Party,
why is it that the US was hemorrhaging jobs until the Democrats lost power, and
a few Tea Party people were able to get in. Why is it that things have only
improved since the Tea Party has been raising questions about Obama's
policies?Obama's mistake was running for a second term. He
should have just bowed out and retired so that he could work on his golf game
without being interrupted by the crises he started.To
"ugottabkidn" Since when did Harry Reid join the Republicans? He has
been the biggest obstruction to debating laws in the Senate.
@ the educatorWell, let's see. There was the Texas NG witch
hunt. And ad hominem attacks by every liberal news outlet and talk show host
out there. Yes, he may have done some interesting "speachifyin", but he
did not deserve the vile rants against his person he received and continues to
receive from those same sources. Harry Reid even called him a loser and a liar.
I don't recall nearly that much ad hominem venom from mainstream
Republicans about Obama. Never heard a national figure accuse Obama of being a
loser or liar, except Joe Wilson, who apologized.IMO, the mainstream
media plays up stupid comments from fringe groups whom they label as main stream
republicans (birthers are a good example - and NO, Trump is not a main stream
republican), but don't seem to give stupid comments from mainstream
democrats the same airplay. By the way, before you accuse me of
being a FOX news dupe, I do not listen to Rush, Hannity, Beck et al, because
they seem only to whine and want to stir up emotion without having solutions to
present. But I'm sure tired of Obama whining that everything was
Obama, like Clinton, faced gridlock, neither side was willing to budge. Unlike
Clinton, who learned to compromise, Obama has declared himself ruler. We need the tea party to counter the progressive Democrats. One group is far
to the left, one far to the right. With 31% of the country satisfied
over his immigration policies and only 33 percent who like his foreign policy,
he's lost the country.
The whole Presidency was tainted on inauguration day 2009 when the powers of the
Republican party met at the Caucus Room in DC and conspired to commit
legislative obstruction an act of sedition at best. Less than one week later
Mitch McConnell confirmed this strategy speaking to the Heritage Foundation. The
mouthpiece of the Republican Party (Rush Limbaugh) repeated the strategy shortly
after that. Republican legislators have voted against and filibustered at record
rates and when you consider that most of this was done toward their own
co-sponsored bills you might want take notes. Dems had a filibuster proof Senate
exactly 72 days. This is the game invented and perfected by Republicans and they
practiced it with the previous Democratic POTUS. As far as the TP's go they
would have had a noble objective if a) they had not acted as though the corrupt
marriage of business and politics was an Obama invention and b) they had not
sold their soul to the highest bidder which starts with Koch and is enforced by
ALEC. This conspiracy is as plain as the nose on your face and was blessed by
The left was never as hateful toward W as the right has been towards Obama. Did
Bush ever have to show his birth certificate? How many times was he sued? Did
the minority leader of the senate ever declare that his job was to make Bush a
one term President?
@RC in WJ,I don't "hate" Obama. I guess I just expect more
of him than you do. I expect him to at least TRY to deliver on the
promises he made during his inspirational speeches to the youth of America in
his Presidential Campaign.Has he even TRIED to solve the racial
divide???What has he done???I didn't say Republicans have
done anything to solve the racial divide recently. I think they are equally
pathetic. So don't expect me to defend them...============When the President dances the night away with a bunch of rich folks in
Martha's Vinyard while America burns, and says NOTHING... I have a problem
with that. Get on the dang TV and say something to bring the people together.
Tell them to stop the rioting and looting! They probably voted
for you... maybe they will listen to you now...And every other time
a racial issue has come up... he's either done/said NOTHING... or said
something to make it WORSE!I just expected MORE from him (on solving
America's racial divide)... I guess you didn't?... or you would be
with me asking him to DO SOMETHING.
@ rufusJust do a general internet search "how many bills has the
senate passed" and there are references galore, from both sides of the isle.
Last count I saw was 269 to 21.But more importantly, does a poll of
approval really mean that much? If so, why do you not reference the fact that
Obama has the lowest approval rating of any president in modern history? Libs
seem to love polls, and the Obama administration has seemed to use them to
govern from more than governing from good sense. Harry Reid sure does.I'm not saying that the Republicans are blameless; both sides are only
looking to the next election. But I have found it interesting that in over 5
years of his presidency, Obama has YET to say mea culpa on an issue of
significance that has failed. He blames everyone from the Tea Party to the
gardener when things go bad, but will always take credit for things that go well
or even poll well. I just want to know when Obama will finally
decide to OWN his presidency. He needs to OWN all of it, not just the good
parts. That's what a true leader does.
Don CIt really depends upon a very subjective definition of what
American greatness is. To liberals they might say, high tax, big government,
equal economic outcome guaranteed, universal single payer health care, and a
generally isolated, benign foreign policy along with a small military. A conservative would take a much different view of what American greatness
would look like. I think Obama is well on track for the liberal version. And
obviously the conservative/Republicans are trying to prevent his vision from
becomming reality. It has been no different when a Republican President has
tried to put forth his version of American greatness and been opposed by the
Democrats. That's basically how our system works and is supposed to work.
What seems to be out of balance is that people who support Obama believed that
the opposition was supposed to lay down and let him have his every wish.
Because he was supposedly a "transformative" President, unlike any other
we've ever had. Well, that doesn't seem to be the case, and in any
case, for the opposition to not represent nearly half the people of the U.S.
would be derelection of duty.
"Maybe the mistake President Obama made was saying what he wanted to do to
make our country great again..."That's not what he said.
What he said was... he would 'fundamentally transform' this country.
We don't need transforming. We were a great nation when he took over the
White House. He has actually taken us in the wrong direction.
@Rufus "I'm saying that we need to get back to partisanship,
compromise, statesmanship, and civility."One of these words is
not like the other.
I have to give it to "2 Bits" and "Mountanman" they have an
never ending supply of the Hate Obama koolaid! Misery must be getting up every
morning knowing that Obama won the last two presidential elections and hating
the man! 2 Bits writes " he consistently does NOTHING when there
are racial issues". I ask 2 Bits to take a moment and enlighten us on
somethings sterling the Repubs. have done recently in regard to racial issues!
The far left goes to bed each night being thankful for the tea party as noted by
previous comments. They can blame every failure of the Obama foreign and
domestic policy on a bogey man. The tea party is not responsible for indecision
and vacillation in foreign policy, crony capitalism, lack of transparency, an
administration run by and for lobbyists, a ballooning federal debt, slow job
growth and multiple administration scandals. You know someone is a failure when
they blame everything on others.
The left would do well to remember a few things from history (not from their
jaded memory of history): 1) Dems were as rabidly against W as the
Tea Party is against Obama. W wanted to work with the Dems, but dems basically
took their ball and went home. The difference between the administrations is
that the media is on the side of the libs and ALWAYS reports that the
Republicans are the roadblocks. Just not always true historically.2) When the Dems owned both houses and the White House, not much got done
either.3) The Republican-owned house has passed hundreds of bills
(some good, some bad) over the last few years, but the Democrat-owned Senate has
stubbornly refused to act, passing only a handful of bills on their own. The
REAL roadblock right now is Harry Reid trying to keep the dem's heads low
until the election. Not my version of history, but reality. Look it
up......The reality is Obama had absolutely no administrative
experience and no real-world experience, just a great oratory skill. Speeches
don't substitute for knowledge. Mr. Obama needs to stop trying to preserve
his legacy and take a chance on something.
Projection is apparently one of the primary talents of the Left.
Oh great... the "Tea Party" bogey man again...How many times
are you guys going to trot that one out there?============We have NOTHING to fear from the Tea Party. The things they want are GOOD
things. Google their platform and see. They aren't what the hard-core
Dems stereotypes pretend (racists, hicks, rich people, etc). They are just
Americans that want to see America keep going (and not end up in the trash pile
of History because we spent and taxed ourselves into oblivion).They
may oppose the President (or Democrats) on a some things. But just a few years
ago, Democrats were the ones insisting it was their "DUTY" to oppose the
President, and be vocal, and protest, and shut him and his agenda down... But
now if anybody disagrees with Obama... they are Evil and vilified by the same
people who protested and tried to shutdown the last President? Isn't that
I guess that's one way of looking at it.... A very BIASED view, but I
guess everybody has their own opinion.=================I
suppose we have to accept the fact that Obama was wrong when he said Iraq was
"Stable" and "Secure" a few months ago. They weren't
stable and secure then... and they aren't now.I think his
BIGGEST mistake is... he consistently does NOTHING when there are racial issues.
He just sits on the sidelines, or says something that makes it WORSE! He was
supposed to be the man who had the unique ability to talk turkey with minorities
and get us all working together... how's THAT working so far?If
I were President (black or not) I would get on the air waves and make a
statement of unity and encouragement in the face of the nightly riots and
looting going on in Missouri (even if you ARE on vacation).You are
sending the WRONG MESSAGE to America if you just go out dancing and golfing
while this is going on in the country you are President of!Call a
Press-Conference... Do SOMETHING!
May I nominate this as the Great Letter of the Year?
@Don Cunningham "Maybe the mistake President Obama made was saying what he
wanted to do to make our country great again...."No, the mistake
he made was saying he wanted to fundamentally transform America. Weakness
abroad, and lawlessness and welfare dependency at home are not my cup of tea.
In fairness, he also made the mistake of believing the Democrats would actually
be reasonable and willing to compromise on important issues like health care,
immigration, and taxes.... Compromise means BOTH sides give and
take. Not just take.
Curmudgeon nailed it. He had no idea how stubborn the right would be, in an all
out battle on their part to have him accomplish nothing. That failing, they
tried to make everything in the world his problem or fault. That too,
floundering in the meritless radio static, they are going to sue him. He was a fool to believe that the right cared more about Americans than their
party, sadly the evidence is overwhelming where their loyalties lie.
It's a pity that Republicans and their Tea Party subsidiary has put
partisanship above nation. Who could ever say that a Republican leader vowing
to ensure the failure of a yet to be inaugurated President is in the interest of
the country? Never before have I seen an opposition party take that approach
and attitude. Fighting over the next election is one thing, but deliberately
working to destroy the person selected by the American people is beyond the
pale. In the past, I voted for the person I thought would do the best job. I
worked for a Utah Republican Senator and a Democratic President. However, the
Republicans have convinced me that they should never get my vote again. I would
normally reserve the right to change my mind, but the GOP is showing no sign of
moderating or becoming sane.
In a wide-ranging interview with the New Yorker, Barack Obama compared
Al-Qaeda-linked militants in Iraq and Syria to junior varsity basketball
players, downplaying their threat as small-league. No Don, as most of us
see, Americans made the mistake of electing Obama. Even Hillary warned us that
Obama was unprepared and unqualified to lead our country! She was right!
So it's obama's fault that a well financed group from the Koch bros
has gerrymandered districts and taken the House? It's obama's fault
that the tea party has no idea how to govern? Can we blame the
incompetence of GOP leadership on Obama too? How about the Chicago
Cubs World Series drought?
This country will be great again despite the Tea Party's best efforts to
turn the US into a Western version of Iran, their vicious hatred of Obama
notwithstanding. Forbes Magazine recently said, "Obama has a
sterling, possibly incomparable record in promoting economic growth."
I think Obama's biggest mistake was believing the Republicans would
actually be reasonable and willing to compromise on important issues like health
care, immigration, and taxes, and that they cared about American citizens other
than the 1%. He was oh so wrong on those.
Maybe some of the things GW Bush said are true, but not many. "Mission Accomplished" comes to mind. . .