Even when religious folks "unite" to fight for "religious
freedom" (so-called), they can't get along.
I think we need a Religious Abuses panel.
Religious freedom means I can practice mine. All others are on their own.
If you actually read the article, this has NOTHING to do with religions
fighting.This is purely political fighting.The left and
the anti-religious need to get grip on their hatred of religion. It is clouding
coloring and biasing their comments, and showing their ignorance of what this
article is really talking about.
“Religious Liberty Panel” huh?Religious Liberty sounds
like a good thing, but the term, as applied by “Conservatives” in
the United States has become synonymous with the revocation of the Separation
of Church and State.“The House bill is a good bill.”
You’ve GOT to be kidding. This is the US House of Representatives
we’re talking about here. The US House of Representatives is INFESTED
with Tea Party types, who only want to weaken the government given to us by the
founders.House Republicans are forever harping about the
government’s “War on Religion,” their term for the Separation
of Church and state, one of our nation’s guiding principles they now
demonize.The kind of Religious Liberty envisioned by
“Conservative” politicos is already very much in existence in other
nations.ISIS is employing their Religious Liberty as they move
across the Middle East, murdering, torturing, and raping members of other
religions.“The House bill is a good bill?” I really
@ the greater truthIMO, the conservative right has made the line
between "religious" and "political" nearly indistinguishable. I
think this is often the reason we see the liberal side react as it does.
Because, despite the popular mantra, most liberals are believers too. They just
recognize that the brand of religion practiced by the far right is a threat to a
@Karen R.IF religion is a core part of your life,just as
extreme leftist views are part the liberal left,what is wrong with
that?Your views and background and core beliefs will always be a
part of your politics.The so-called brand of religion of the right
is NOT a threat, and it's ridiculous and silly to think otherwise, and is
no more threat than secularists wanting force their beliefs on everyone.
Just ask Laos, Cambodia, cuba, Vietnam, north korea, china, all the former
soviet union countries, any eastern European country, former eastern germany,
those under threat of Nazi germany or facist Italy, and any country with
dictator or king, or exercises some kind of central control.religious right is dangerous? what a laugher! try any extreme belief system,
especially from left that has imprisoned, tortured,and murdered hundreds of
millions of people making anything religious extremist might have done quite
puny in comparison.Even here the left has given us indian
reservations, german/Japanese internment camps, and under Wilson and FDR, there
were numerous political prisoners, mostly media and businessmen who would not go
along with their fascistic programs and control.
@ the greater truthI'm sure your measured, non-hyperbolic
response will assuage all concerns.
Consider the Obama administration's utter contempt for Christianity right
here in America, evidenced by the ongoing attempts to completely cleanse the
military and other government facilities of all traces of the Bible and
Christianity, even as government funds are being used to build Muslim prayer
rooms at publicly funded universities, airports, and military bases. Apparently,
religious freedom only applies to politically correct religions - and
Christianity is not one of those. This "Religious Freedom" panel should
be allowed to die, as it is nothing more than a front used by the government for
political purposes. Unless and until the U.S. gets its own act together with
regard to religious freedom, it should stay out of other nation's business.
thanks moderators for shaving down some of the off-topic Christian abuse here.
to summarize,-the first act made a committee plus a state-dept.
co-ordinator to protect foreign Christians and others-lately the state has
not stayed close to the committee, some embarrassing gaffes were made, plus
Obama's new co-ordinator seems too far left and wasn't approved-some on the committee openly disagreed with Obama-the bipartisan house
bill keeps the committee alive in roughly the same form-the Durbin bill
shortens terms, makes party requirements for leadership, apparently protects
their religious views, but also reins in their free speaking, and makes them
wait on the State department, basically ties the panel closer to the white
house-former committee people think Durbin is skewing the group's
independenceYes, they could co-ordinate better, but the mechanism is
there already, why politicize it? Agreed, John, today's gov. is less
friendly to christians, the committee's studies can be perverted. More
reason for a more independent group, no? Christians and others have real danger,
good politics in a formerly Christian nation should address it, while there is a
There is no such thing as "separation of church and state". When Thomas
Jefferson wrote to the Baptist minister in Danbury Connecticut, the context was
that the Federal Government should never dictate to a church their religious
tenets. For decades after the Constitution was adopted, many states had
state-supported denominations, and some state constitutions had a requirement
that only Christians may run for public office.
How can the US be a beacon of religious freedom when so many in our country are
actively working to deny religious liberty to others?Religious
liberty, to the Christians in this country means that *everyone* has to accept
Christianity; nothing else counts.