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  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2014 3:11 p.m.

    Sambone's got it right...all of the smack, endlessly going on, is done for the amusement of the smackers and accomplishes nothing. Do any of you really expect byufan to say, "Oh darn, you are right, thanks for straightening me out"? or utefan to proclaim "Scrud man you coug dudes have enlightened me, Utah really is the doormat of the pac"? What is nice that USU is more or less out of this and Aggiefan can actually think constructively about the upcoming season.

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 2:50 p.m.

    "As a fan I like to watch my team win more than lose. I am fine with my team playing teams that are at the same level."

    The honesty is appreciated. Just an honest assessment of the BYU fan mentality, and a fundamental difference between the two programs right now.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 2:12 p.m.

    "Being fair, you're very far off on this one. What mattered a lot to us was bringing home multiple BCS trophies, something BYU has never been able to accomplish, t-shirts notwithstanding."

    Don't talk smack about BYU's national championship trophy if you can't take smack about BCS bowl win trophies. I think most people would agree that NC > BCS bowl win.

    "Motorbike is correct that the BYU fans are the one's pounding their chest about top 25 and 10-win seasons against nobodies. There are no trophies for those "accomplishments."

    In all honesty, it seems that the pollsters care more about wins than strength of schedule. It seems that 10+ win seasons against nobodies get more respect than 5-7 or 6-6 seasons against tough teams.

    In addition, it's funny that Ute fans will brag about the good teams they beat in their 2004 and 2008 overall weak schedules but don't acknowledge BYU's good teams on their overall weak schedule.

  • Sambonethegreat Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 1:44 p.m.

    Some of this fan smack is ridiculous. There are many valid points to be found across the board, though.

    -USU is primed for success because of a weaker schedule and overall improved institution and fan support. Winning 10 games this season is realistic.

    -BYU is primed for success for the same reasons and the fact they have just been so consistent for so long. Winning 10 games is realistic for the Cougars.

    -Utah has the toughest road back to relevance with a brutal schedule. Won't be impossible for them to get back, but it will be hard. Six wins is likely what Utah will get this year.

    All three schools are in different situations and have different histories. I just don't see the need for so many to get so worked up.

  • truthsandwich The Bubble, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 12:18 p.m.

    @Black and Blue

    "Come on dude, be fair.
    In both 2004 and 2008 beating MWC competition to be ranked in the top 25 seemed to matter a whole lot to Utah fans."

    Being fair, you're very far off on this one. What mattered a lot to us was bringing home multiple BCS trophies, something BYU has never been able to accomplish, t-shirts notwithstanding.

    Motorbike is correct that the BYU fans are the one's pounding their chest about top 25 and 10-win seasons against nobodies. There are no trophies for those "accomplishments."

  • Transplanted to Texas San Angelo, TX
    Aug. 15, 2014 9:26 a.m.

    It's hilarious to me when Utah fans talk about BYU or USU playing in a sub-par bowl, like that's all they have to play for, and every team in the PAC12 plays in a major bowl. Newsflash...you have to win the PAC12 to play in the Rose Bowl, and that may very well never happen for Utah. Win some games and you might get to go to another one of the PAC12's major bowl affiliation games, like: The Hyundai Sun Bowl (PAC #4), The National University Holiday Bowl (PAC #3), The Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl (PAC #5), The Valero Alamo Bowl (PAC #2), the New Mexico Bowl (PAC #7), the Craft Fight Hunger Bowl (PAC#6)...granted these were all last year's bowls, but explain to me how BYU having an automatic bid to the "Beach Blanket Bowl in Miami" is worse than maybe winning 6 games and possibly getting invited to the New Mexico Bowl is for Utah?...win all your games in the PAC12 and then you can start claiming that you're playing for something.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Aug. 15, 2014 7:30 a.m.

    We are real good. We will go onwards and sidewards to more pac glory.

    Go Utes!

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2014 7:19 a.m.

    Have you ever noticed that the only folks who spend time praising strength of schedule represent teams at the bottom of their conference? Does the SOS of Harvard make any difference to them in terms of what constitutes a successful season? Utah is at a distinct disadvantage, not because of SOS but because of location, population base, climate, coaching, and tradition of winning (none as opposed to say USC )

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 6:09 p.m.

    2013 Utah had fewer wins, but much tougher competition.

    2013:
    Best Win: Utah beating Stanford. (BYU & USU have NEVER beaten a team that won a P5 conference outright in a season)
    Worst Loss: BYU losing to Virginia (Virginia was 0-8 in ACC, was 1-10 against non-byu teams (beat VMI).

    Head to Head:
    Utah beat BYU
    Utah beat USU

    Head to head:
    Utah has beaten BYU 9 of last 12 games
    Utah has beaten USU 13 of the last 14 games

    Last time BYU beat Utah by more than a TD: 1996
    Last time USU beat Utah by more than a TD: 1979

    BYU & USU may have a better record, but they play nobodies.
    Mary Hardin-Baylor was 13-1 last year in division 3. They are so much better than USU or BYU.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Aug. 14, 2014 6:04 p.m.

    Chewbacca

    What's "relevant" about being a perennial bottom dweller in any conference?

    Being a convenient punching bag for the big boys of a conference doesn't make you one of them.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    Aug. 14, 2014 5:27 p.m.

    Motorbike
    "it's hilarious reading the comments from the coug fans who try to spin the fact that ending up in the top 25 polls simply by playing no one, actually matters. Memo to coug fans, finishing in the top 25 means absolutely nothing if you get there by playing nobody."

    Come on dude, be fair.
    In both 2004 and 2008 beating MWC competition to be ranked in the top 25 seemed to matter a whole lot to Utah fans.

    Boise State, UCF, Hawaii, TCU, and Utah all benefited greatly from top 25 season that were possibly accomplished only due to poor competition.

    Just so you know, BYU's 2014 preseason SOS ranking is right on par with both Alabama and Oklahoma (SOS ranked #95 and #93) Both are ranked in the pre-season top 10... Both will likely have a spot in this years playoff...

    The fact is SOS means very little to those who actually have a vote.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Aug. 14, 2014 5:03 p.m.

    KYUte:

    Is BYU going undefeated? No. If they did, would they be national champions? No. Would they be in the top-10? Of course. It's silly to suggest otherwise. Pollsters value undefeated teams, though they would be careful to put them in the 5-7 range, rather than the top-4 that might actually enter the playoff. Look at the 2007 Hawaii team--they played two FCS teams, Idaho, La. Tech, SJSU, New Mexico State, and other mediocre teams. The only ranked team they played was #19 Boise State. They finished the season ranked in the top-10. BYU's schedule is certainly not killer, but it's stronger than that.

    Besides, strength of schedule before the season starts is about as useful as reading your horoscope. Texas could have a resurgence and Stanford and/or Oregon could fall apart this year.

  • RSL* Why, AZ
    Aug. 14, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    As a fan I like to watch my team win more than lose. Winning helps get in bowl games and in recruiting. I am fine with my team playing teams that are at the same level.

    Any school can choose to have a tougher or easier schedule, but in Ute's case they play teams that are way superior and that results in loses. But you can always cheer on the other PAC teams if you ever get bored of all those Ute losses.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 4:13 p.m.

    BYU and Utah State will make the Utah proud.
    Utah will continue to be the doormat of the PAC 12

  • AggieFan4Ever Logan, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 4:03 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar:
    Because something that happened in 1984 is still relevant in 2014... All this talk about national relevance is fun and I enjoy all the trash-talking, but I'm not sure any team from Utah is going to be really relevant in 2014. USU has the best shot, since they're in a conference and if they're the highest-ranked G5 team they can get into a big-time bowl. Not the playoff, though, because of the somewhat weak schedule. BYU has a much weaker schedule and is independent, so they could have a 10-win season and nobody outside of Utah will care, and Utah has a while to go before they're level with everyone else in the PAC 12. My prediction: BYU and USU have 10+ wins, Utah goes 6-6 and finally gets a bowl game, USU ends up ranked higher than BYU but just outside the top 15 (they were ranked #16 after 11 wins with a much weaker schedule in 2012, so it could happen) and the media and the fans of BYU and Utah continue in their condescending ways and treat USU like they're still the doormat they were years and years ago.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 14, 2014 3:18 p.m.

    Love the picture accompanying the article.

  • KYUte Louisville, KY
    Aug. 14, 2014 1:52 p.m.

    @ Riverton Cougar

    "The last time BYU went undefeated they were #1 in the country. That sounds relevant to me."

    Ha! That will never happen again. It is a guarantee that if BYU somehow does run the table this year, they will not be ranked in the top 10 final poll.

    On the other hand, if Utah runs the table this year, it's a guarantee that we will be ranked #1 in the final poll. That is obviously a long shot (Dumb and Dumber type of long shot) but hey "So you're saying there's a chance!".

    Football is in the air, I can smell it!!
    GO UTES!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 8:25 a.m.

    "You know you're irrelevant when you could go undefeated and still end up out of the top 10 in the country."

    The last time BYU went undefeated they were #1 in the country. That sounds relevant to me.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 14, 2014 12:00 a.m.

    It's hilarious reading the comments from the coug fans who try to spin the fact that ending up in the top 25 polls simply by playing no one, actually matters. Memo to coug fans, finishing in the top 25 means absolutely nothing if you get there by playing nobody. You know you're irrelevant when you could go undefeated and still end up out of the top 10 in the country. There's a real possibility that BYU could experience that exact scenario with an undefeated season this year. That said, they'll still lose at least 2 or 3 games and won't finish in the top 25 anyway. Count on it.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:44 p.m.

    @swizzle and U other utes bragging about SOS: one of the several hilarious events that will unfold in the next few years (and what is really happening now) is where U guys are forced to live in the past; something U guys accuse BYU fans of doing.

    As the years flow like a river, and the utes are still at the bottom of the PAC, begging the state of Utah for more money to pay the few good players to sign on, U will all be still bragging about about what U accomplished in 2004, 2008, and those times U were able to barely squeeze out a victory in the game that really mattered the most to KW and company. Not much was accomplished before, or after.

    And I'll be sitting back reading as many as I can, and LOL.

  • Buck49 Washington, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 7:32 p.m.

    Uncle Rico better be wrong because Utah will only win 2 games a year then

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 4:50 p.m.

    So tell me uncle Rico, who exactly is the U's rival? And do they know they are?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 4:10 p.m.

    Chewbacca:
    "Sour, sour grapes my friends. You wouldn't understand what its like in the big boy leagues. Utes playing the only relevant game in town these days."

    How exactly does being out of the PAC12 race midway through conference play and inviting the next executioner to town make Utah's games relevant? 2-7 teams are only relevant in the sugar plum fairy dreams of their fans.

    shizzy:
    Whatever helps you sleep at night. Let's talk at the end of the season when BYU is nationally ranked and you're trying to find grandma's old gingerbread recipe.

  • swizzy18 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 2:55 p.m.

    Such jealousy from the byu fanatics desperately trying to seem relevant in futile fashion. I love it. A word of wisdom: don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. After getting owned 4 years in a row, losing 9 out of 12, including defeats such as 54-10 in Rice Eccles South, 48-24, and 52-21, and slipping out of any shimmer of a spotlight with a pathetic and snooze-fest schedule, don't hate on someone bigger and better than you. The more byu fans try to pull Utah down, the farther byu sinks into irrelevant oblivion.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 1:03 p.m.

    Sour, sour grapes my friends. You wouldn't understand what its like in the big boy leagues. Utes playing the only relevant game in town these days.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:41 a.m.

    Utah has the most to gain.

    byu has nothing to gain, therefore they have nothing to lose.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 10:13 a.m.

    BYU 11-1
    USU 9-3

    Those are the only two that need to be mentioned as they are the only two who will be bowling and nationally ranked (relevant) at the end of the year (also interesting they aren't dodging each other either...only one team does that in this state). Other teams will shine their SOS trophy, sing carols, bake cookies, and look for another offensive coordinator who will be the spittin image of Chip Kelly in August and waiting in the unemployment line by December. But hey, at least he'll have his good buddy KW to talk to...lines always go faster when you're with friends.

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 9:14 a.m.

    Utah will go 7-5 and go to a great bowl game

    byu and usu will continue to be irrelevant as the P5 continue to gain more autonomy and move towards our own division.

    Go Utes!

  • xam Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    Pleb,

    Utah is dodging BYU and USU so they can play the #1 SOS in the country which includes Michigan and Fresno who beat USU a few months ago.

    BYU's SOS will come in at about #80 Mr. P

    Utah has already proved their ownership of BYU and USU over the past dozen years.

  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 8:37 p.m.

    Re: pleblian

    Just wait until the P5 schools vote to only exclusively play each other. Savannah State will become BYU's new rival then.

  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 7:04 p.m.

    Pleblian,
    Do you mean the dangerous BYU Cougars who can't seem to ever beat the U. Honestly, where are your comments coming from. Say something "relevant" please.
    Go Utes!!

  • pleblian salt lake city, utah
    Aug. 12, 2014 6:42 p.m.

    I vote that UoU, who is currently nationally irrelevant, becomes locally irrelevant as it dodges dangerous BYU and USU games to battle with rivals such as Idaho State.

  • Riley Mendenhall Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2014 5:57 p.m.

    The 3 game stretch of Midd Tenn State, UNLV, and Savannah St will be brutal.
    Making it through that stretch without a loss sureley will clinch a spot in the playoff.