Brad, you're one of the best sports writers around, but on this one
Christian Stewart was correct (though he could have been more diplomatic in the
way it was stated). The Utah backup had a rough time and so did Craig Harrison,
the USU backup. Darell Garretson was not the backup, he was third string.
“Every team needs a great No. 2 quarterback. If you look at Utah and Utah
State last year, their second-string guys came in and did horrible. I’m
not planning on being that guy.”CLASSY!
"So just a reality check for everyone. Last season Stewart was BYU's
4th or 5th QB. He was behind Munns, Olsen, Hill, and could have been behind
Green. What we do know is that without players in front of him transferring
Stewart would be, at best, the third guy up. He would not be the starter at
Utah."This kid needs a reality-check. Imagine him making his
first start at Oregon. AS was a part of the reason we were neck-and-neck with
them well into the 3rd quarter. This kid would be 7th-string on our team. Only
at byu and having never, ever played against a back to back weekly grind, ever,
does such self-delusion run rampant.
CougsndawgsOf course, you're absolutely correct. Not only are
BYU sports watched nationwide on BYUtv, they're watched world-wide by
thousands of BYU fans.The kids on the hill sometimes have a
difficult time seeing outside of their crimson-colored bubble.
JohnInSLC:I know it's a difficult concept but I lived half my life in
Georgia and half my life in Utah. I have a legacy of BYU assistants, athletes,
and coaches and was born a blue blood. I became addicted to SEC football when I
moved to Georgia in my young adult life. I loved it, and loved watching and
cheering for the Dawgs. It is possible to actually like two programs and cheer
for them both. I know it's difficult to comprehend such a thing but
there's no whiplash here.As for BYUtv, yes they have a vast
audience...nationwide, and actually carried by DirectTV unlike a certain
conference who can't quite figure it out. "Rest of the country" to
most people means just what it says...I apologize if in your world that means
byutv's vast audience.
"The rest of the country enjoys the annual laugh."cougsndawgs and cougardsundevil: Of course, I meant the vast
audience that watches BYUtv. (By the way, do you guys ever get whiplash with
such split loyalties?)
@Two for Flinching"Last season Stewart was BYU's 4th or 5th
QB. He was behind Munns, Olsen, Hill, and could have been behind Green."You, just like Mr Rock, need to check your facts before posting. Did you
watch practice last year? Did Green or see any action at all last year? But
wait, Stewart was the 5th string.Stewart was splitting 2nd team reps
with Olsen towards the end of the year. Once again, check your facts.And I'll restate what I said earlier, your quarterbacks in your
"scrimmage" sure looked good.
I am really excited to watch Taysom and chuckie play this year ! They both have
awesome talent and also have a great chance to preform well at the next level .
Let the season begin !
JohninSLC"No, that's not even as funny as all the coug fans
talking about national championships every summer. The rest of the country
enjoys the annual laugh."Yeah? You just proved that BYU is
nationally recognized while Utah is simply a regional school at best, only known
by the PAC-12 because of membership. Thanks!
2fer:I know I get caught up in it. I actually used to like Utah more
before I read some ute fans' comments. I should not let outliers (you know
which ute fans I'm talking about) have any persuasion over me but it just
shows how emotional and heated this rivalry can be. I think that's a good
thing as long as it doesn't get too personal or laced with religious
@ CougsndawgsI appreciate that. I try to be objective, but I do get
caught up in the rivalry smack talk occasionally. I guess we all do though,
"You seen this kid Stewart play? He'd be starting for your
Utes."This is not the first comment like this on this thread.
It's ridiculous to watch a career backup QB for 2 weeks of fall camp and
determine that he would be the starter at a PAC-12 school. I think this is the
result of the pre-season hype machine that the D-News fires up every year. It
reminds me of the time a couple weeks before the 54-10 game, a well known BYU
poster claimed that not a single Utah player, besides maybe Star, would start
for BYU. Obviously that was/is far from true.So just a reality
check for everyone. Last season Stewart was BYU's 4th or 5th QB. He was
behind Munns, Olsen, Hill, and could have been behind Green. What we do know is
that without players in front of him transferring Stewart would be, at best, the
third guy up. He would not be the starter at Utah.
JohnInSLC:"No, that's not even as funny as all the coug fans
talking about national championships every summer. The rest of the country
enjoys the annual laugh."Wait...I thought that the rest of the
country didn't think BYU was "relevant". Usually people don't
pay attention to what's "irrelevant" let alone enough to laugh. So
which is it? Oh wait, I forgot, you're using the ute fan playbook: stand by
statistics and statements that support Utah and negatively portray BYU, UNTIL
the facts twist it the other way around...then simply change your tune.Objectified:For what it's worth I find that 2fer is usually pretty
objective and fair in his assessments. I may not like everything he says but
he's usually pretty insightful. It's also hard to be objective about
criticism of your team even when that criticism may be sarcastic but accurate.
Craig Harrison had 185 yards on 18-of-41 passing and a touchdown, but he fumbled
the ball away in his first series and his lone TD pass came very late in the 4th
quarter after the game had already been decided.From
Christian's perspective, Harrison did have an awful game, and Stewart
obviously doesn't want to be "that guy" if he's called upon in
a similar situation.
"Kind of like all the ute fans saying they are going to the rose
bowl."CougarSunDevil:No, that's not even as
funny as all the coug fans talking about national championships every summer.
The rest of the country enjoys the annual laugh.
Johninslc "I was going to comment about the wisdom of a 2nd
string QB talking smack, but then I read about BYU's new t-shirt slogan and
couldn't top laughing." Kind of like all the ute fans
saying they are going to the rose bowl. The rest of the PAC-12 can't stop
@ 54-10I guess if you count playing absolutely awful as having D1
experience. Kind of ironic you'd post this after seeing how bad your QBs
played at the scrimmage tonight. You seen this kid Stewart play? He'd be
starting for your Utes. Not his fault that he's behind an NFL athlete
Two for FlinchingGood one. Only Cougar fan thinks it is cool for a
JC QB to sit in judgement of two D1 guys who have actually played against a D1
@ StrikerIt took me about five seconds to find his career stats
thanks to this amazing invention called the Google.
Two For Flinching"Big talk from a guy who's only career
stats are two incomplete passes against Idaho State. Stewart holds a mean clip
board though...."So you don't like BYU, know all the
players stats, and have seen them at practice learning how to be their best
which means taking careful notes. Do you see what that says about you?
I was going to comment about the wisdom of a 2nd string QB talking smack, but
then I read about BYU's new t-shirt slogan and couldn't top laughing.
Classy comments from someone who has never played in a D 1 game.typical.
@ Two For Flinching:I give you some credit for not being as negative
toward BYU as other Ute fans often are, which you must admit... and visa versa.
Pride often overrides objectivity and can blind people within their own bias.
As for Stewart, It's good he's showing confidence and
setting positive goals. He's also been taking an inordinate number of reps.
Taysom's style of play subjects him to a higher propensity for injury than
traditional QB's receive. It's a high risk - high reward type of
thing. As such, coaches want Stewart ready. They have others to choose from, but
Stewart has set himself apart from the others. He has a canon for an arm and has
been throwing the ball long and accurately in practices. Granted it's
not the same as real game conditions. But it's the closest thing to it. BTW: There is nothing Stewart said that wasn't true. The author got
it wrong about USU, who ended up using their 3rd string QB.@
VegasUte:And have you ever heard the saying "Those who fail to
plan, plan to fail"?Stewart's check is good and definitely
@Laxman. Funny how the "four straight over BYU" thing is the only thing
U have to crow about lately. The truth is that the true rivalry game (not
against CO) has meant so much to KW and company, that they put everything they
have into winning the one game. Barely.They either forgot about the
rest of the season, or had nothing left to give.BYU, as always,
recovered and went on to have a respectable season. Yes we all know the
perception is that playing in the PAC creates a more difficult SOS. Maybe a
couple of games. The rest of that claim is a myth.
Laxman"I love how Cougar fans love to trash the Utes and lack of
bowl games. Just remember that as bad as they have been, the Utes have still
have won 4 straight over BYU. Pac 12 power!!"Yeah, not Ute
Power, or Utah power, or anything related to your school. Just PAC-12 Power. You
beat BYU 4 straight, and then what else have you done? Beat Stanford once. and
then...nothing. So what is Utah going to do this year when they don't have
a BYU team to play this year? brag about beating a non-Utah FCS team? Good luck
with that (Lax)man!
Brio"There was a time when Kyle's Utes were competitive in
post-season play and thus fun to watch in bowl games."That was
when Utah played in the MWC and had an easier schedule that helped facilitate
them to two semi-great seasons in 2004 and 2008. When Utah was doing well in
these years, they didn't want to point out their lack of strength of
schedule. Now that Utah is losing year in and year out, they don't want to
bring any attention to bowl games and point out over and over their SOS.
Stew: have you ever heard the saying - The best-laid plans of mice and men....?
You, and all BYU fans, had better hope that he doesn't have to step up and
cash the check his mouth has written.From a Ute fan - I'm
really looking forward to watching Chuckie this year. Let the
@ ObjectifiedWe all have biases and I'm not going to pretend
that I am an exception to that. However, I don't come here to spew hate or
try to rile everybody up. I know there are fans who do that, but that is not my
intention. I often disagree with posters or articles (I am a Utah fan after
all), but I state my disagreement without attacking the original poster. If
props are due or a positive comment is warranted I have no problem doing so.As for Stewart, if he gets his chance we'll see what he's made
of. However, I don't think he would be talking as big as he is if he were
the one under center, not in a green jersey.
@ Two For Flinching:Of course you think your comments on BYU are
objective or you wouldn't have written them. But if you could read them
from an outside viewpoint, you'd see the anti-BYU bias you maintain. Go
back and read your comments on other BYU articles over the past month and you
might understand what I mean.Case in point that some of the better
players actually do sometimes get buried in the depth charts. Sorensen
wasn't getting his chance at the D1 level so transferred to Southern Utah
where he could get more of a chance to be seen. He subsequently is now in the
NFL while the guys previously ahead of him on the D1 depth charts are no longer
in football. Just shows that you shouldn't make blanket statements
that the best players are always the ones who play. Depth charts are not an
exact science. If Stewart gets more of a chance to play this year,
you'll be able understand in a more visual way. I've most likely been
following BYU football and their practices this season much more than you. I
stand by my Stewart assessment.
I love how Cougar fans love to trash the Utes and lack of bowl games. Just
remember that as bad as they have been, the Utes have still have won 4 straight
over BYU. Pac 12 power!!
@ CopaceticYou're going to compare Stewart's fall camp
performance to Utah's QBs performance on the field in actual PAC-12 games,
and say with a straight face that Stewart is better? Any semi-knowledgeable
football pundit would be able to figure out that a senior QB who has only thrown
two incomplete passes in his entire career probably isn't great. @ ObjectifiedIs that so? You're right that I've never
held a clip board. Played quite a bit, but that's irrelevant in this case.
We all understand how depth charts work and you don't have to be a former
player to know that the best players play and guys who can't cut it at the
D1 level get buried. Stewart is only number 2 because several QB's in
front of him transferred. Also, I think I've been fairly objective in my
assessment of BYU. Not everything I say is positive, but it's not 100%
Nice to see RonBergundy already covered this but usu's 2nd string QB did a
very poor job and was replaced. The 3rd string guy did a much better job. So
Stewart was correct. Also fun to see the usu "fans" and utah
"fans" get all bent about it. lol
@ Two For Flinching:Based on comments I've read of yours in the
past, I'd dare bet you yourself have never handled a clipboard on the
sidelines of a football game before... though you've probably always wanted
to. BTW: Since you are a known Ute fan and have never been known to
have said anything positive about any Y player, you obviously meant the
clipboard remark in a snide way. But every great QB I've ever known
has spent time carrying a clipboard on the sidelines before getting his chance
to show what he had. It's simply an accepted part of the process that some
Ute wannabe apparently doesn't know about.
@ truthsandwich:You asked how BYU bowl games have been going lately.
Well, we've won 4 of the last 5 and played in 9 consecutive bowl
games (and running). In turn, let me ask you how Utah's bowl
games have been going lately?Wait a minute. I just found out they
haven't even qualified for any bowl games the past few years. So nevermind
answering. With the tough SOS the Utes have this coming season, they
will most likely be sitting home yet again over the holidays... for the third
consecutive year. But I hope I'm wrong. There was a time when
Kyle's Utes were competitive in post-season play and thus fun to watch in
bowl games. I like all teams from the state of Utah to do well. Oh, for
the good old days.
truthsandwich, It is much better to go to a bowl game and lose to a
PAC12 school then to sit at home all the time!!! So glad BYU is so ill relevant
that you and others feel the need to read and comment on so many BYU articles!!!
Go Cougs!!! Rise up!!!
Like RonBergundy pointed out, the article author, Brad Rock, blew it this time
in his article.The Aggie replacement QB whose stats were mentioned
in the article was actually their 3rd string quarterback (Garretson). Harrison
originally replaced Chuckie and did not do well by any measure. That's why
they then went to their third stringer. Brad Rock totally missed that fact.That in turn also shows the ignorance in comments such as that from
CFBFan, which owns the actual "less-than-informed statement" he
mentions.@ Two For Flinching:Another negative comment by
a Ute fan on a BYU article. Unfortunately, that has become totally typical and
expected from you, based on your past history of comments on BYU articles.In actuality, Stewart has been performing at an extremely high level in
Spring and Fall practices. In fact, at a much higher level than any of the
replacement QB's the Utes sent out after their first stringer went down
last season. An even semi-knowledgeable football pundit would never
try to make any kind of objective assessment of any quarterback after only 2
passes. Doing so would indicate a certain level of football ignorance.
@MaxHow'd that last bowl game go?
From what I hear from those involved, he has a better arm, and more accurate
than Taysom. I am not worried one bit about BYU's QB situation!
CFBFanMonterey, CAJust tryin to maintain relations in the
family. Utah State has been good to BYU, wouldn't want to offend them for
the world.But sometimes we all resemble ignorance. Like to avoid
throwing anybody under the bus, though, especially one of our own.
Funny thing is this, he has been to 3 bowl games as a player. Travis Wilson,
well lets think back to his bowl games....
@Y Grad / Y Dad,No need to defend a less-than-informed statement
from Stewie; he spouted off without thinking. Aggie fans like me aren't
going to riot, it's not worth it. That being said, you're not doing
any favors by covering for ignorance. He made a mistake (do you REALLY think he
was talking about that one game?),and at some point he needs to learn to put a
little more thought behind his statements.
Big talk from a guy who's only career stats are two incomplete passes
against Idaho State. Stewart holds a mean clip board though....
Come on Rock. Post an article ripping on a kid AFTER you check your facts. Craig
Harrison was Utah States #2 guy, and he wasn't ready to play. What Stewart
said was 100% accurate.
It appears that Christian Stewart has a higher level of expectation for himself
than winning 75% of his games (Like Darell Garretson did). With those goals he
could replace Taysom Hill who won 62% last year. Go Stewart!
Whoops.. i guess he hates the U too. Wish he wouldn't have said it the way
he did...not wise for a sr. to say what he did.
Before inciting all loyal Aggies to riot, and in Stew's defense, he watched
Chuckie go down, and his replacement did not rally the troops to victory.I know, long way from terrible, but it's the best I can come up