@Sven...Obama has two Ivy League Degrees. None of which are in musical theater.
SharpHooks said:"She's qualified, at least for Utah. She
has a degree in Musical Theater."And Obama was a Community
#1 reason Mia Love will win: she does not have to go against Jim Matheson.#2 reason Mia love will win: the republican party has gerrymandered the
election for her.
let's never forget, reality dictates that a vote for ANY democrat is a vote
for Obama, Reid, and Pelosi. Need I say more?
Love conquers all.
BTW, I was not saying that Love and Pelosi were equivalents. What I mean is
that a literal vote for Mia Love means more chances that a liberal will be the
next Democratic leader. Jim Matheson didn’t vote for Pelosi after
2010 or 2012. The more Blue Dogs we lose to tea-partiers the more we can
guarantee that both parties will be crazier and crazier. The point is, Utah
needs moderate representation in both parties. If someone like Mike Leavitt or
Norm Bangerter was running on the GOP side I might support them. But Tea
Partiers just want to shut down the government and make a statement. I will
support Doug Owens because he lives Utah values and isn’t a bomb thrower.
Ironically, a vote for Mia Love is a vote for Nancy Pelosi. The more polarized
we become as a nation, the more voters make the mistake of trying to fight
extremism with more extremism. The results have been disastrous. Utah has only
4/435 voices in determining which party controls Congress and history shows that
no party dominates forever. But Utah's voice increases when we consider
that the person we vote for will have a stronger voice in their own party's
leadership. Less moderate Democrats in office mean that when the Democrats
inevitably control the House again, the far-left will rule. Our voting patterns
have basically turned our country over to the far left half of the time.
Similarly, even if Republicans do control the House again, Mia Love and Mike Lee
will try to shut down the government by opposing their own party’s budget.
I will vote for Reagan Republicans and Orton-Owens-Matheson
Democrats. But I will not support Mia Love/Tea Party Republicans any more than
I would vote for an extreme liberal.
Love is up only 12 points in one of the most gerrymandered conservative
republican districts in the entire country! With the typical margin of
error...??Even if she wins, it shows the doubt the voters have in
her abilities to make a real difference.
A Republican in Utah ONLY 12 points ahead... this is a 'dog fight' by
Utah standards. Good luck to the Democrat, you know 'what's their
Please send Mia Love to Congress. This is a time that cries for another voice
of reason to be heard in Washington, D. C.
@There You Go Again So what you are
basically saying is that Republicans are evil when they behave no differently
than Democrats do in predominantly Democratic districts? I should pay heed to that criticism why? @Brave Sir RobinThe only thing that is ironic is that critics of Love will not be
labeled "racist" in the same dishonest way that "tolerant
people" attack critics of Obama as being racist.
The weakness of this candidate is that she is only up 12. In the reddest of red
states where with a democratic president who is getting more unpopular with
everyone every day how can she only be up 12. In a gerrymandered district like
this one, she should be up twenty at least.
Obama, too, claimed he would help the middle class American, which I am, and my
income has been cut by half since the ACA has been failingly implemented, which
will continue to fail like every other federal government contrived and run
program, i.e. SS, medicare, including part D, etc, because you couldn't run
a lemonade stand on the same principles D.C. is trying to run this country.Thomas Jefferson said it best: If we can but keep the government from wasting
the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, we will be
a happy people.
Of course she is winning and will win. The Democrats stink to high
heaven...nationally. The border is burning down. Iraq is burning down. A
whole lot of leadership is needed and President Obama is in Martha's
Vineyard golfing. (185th time during his presidency.) Having said that and
being fairly conservative in my political views nationally, we MUST have a house
cleaning here in Utah. I think Jim Matheson should run for Governor. The GOP
in Utah is rotten and rotting. It's time for new blood.
let the fun begin!!!
Re: "Utah's per capita income is well below the national
average."Yeah, so? Now let's talk figures that actually
mean something:Utah median family income -- $57,049US national
median family income -- $51,371Even this figure is skewed downward
some, since Utah is in the higher percentiles of both family size and
single-earner families. But, the fact that my son, his homemaker wife, and my 5
little grandkids each get the same $18K share of their Dad's income, makes
per capita measures virtually meaningless, for comparison purposes.Utah is actually, by any standard, in pretty good shape. So, the Democrat
victimization ploy just doesn't work very well here. Here's hoping Mia
will join Jason and Mike in implementing those measures necessary to keep the
federal government's jackboot heel off our necks, so real people, real
Utahns can maintain that status.If radical Utah Democrats insist
that Doug incorporate the trite, hackneyed, disingenuous
Pelosi/Reid/Matheson/Democrat ride-to-the-rescue, victimization thing into his
campaign strategy, he'll show he's out-of-touch with Utah, and
he'll lose by way more than 12 points.
Do we need another Chaffetz/Lee in office?The Mia Love cheerleaders
need to provide us with specific reasons why Mia should get our vote. And
please, don't talk about big government or spending. We all know that the
GOP doesn't cut down on spending or government unless it means cutting
safety nets. They love deficits and massive government intrusion as much as
@Jeff HarrisI should have stated household income instead of per
capita income - my mistake. Since Utah has a younger population i.e. more
children at home it lowers the per capita income number.Utah does
have a higher household income than the national average and even than your home
state of Washington:Utah $60,681Washington $60,304National Average $55,030Sources: U.S. Census Bureau, 2011 and 2012
American Community Surveys, 2011 and 2012It only took me a minute to
google this information and get the facts.
"...I'm not sure they understand where I stand on issues they care
about...".Does it matter?Rest assured, Utah's
next Republican Congressperson making $175,000 + benefits annually, it does not
matter, at all, what you think or what plans you have for your two year stint in
DC.Just remember to...Vote no on everything proposed by
a Democrat.Facilitate Utah's status as an ATM for the
Republican Party.Do as many photo-ops as possible (only with
Republicans, of course)Do as many FOX/Republican Network News
interviews as possible.Begin running for 2016 as soon as you're
elected.No problem...even an ex-major of Saratoga Springs, Utah
could do it.
Mia is a poor candidate, but at least she lives in the district she will
represent. The democrats should field a candidate who knows and lives in the
district. There has to be a qualified democrat somewhere in the 4th district.
@1 conservativeYes, its' true Barack Obama does cause people to lose
elections.Most democrats have no one but Barack Obama to blame for
losing their elections in 2014.---------------------------Um... Jim Matheson -D won in 2012 with Mitt Romney on the ticket! Will Obama
cause some to lose elections? Without a doubt. A second term president
generally does his party no favors in a midterm a la George Bush in 2006.But still... With Obama...Matheson still won, in Utah, with a Romney
ticket against him. That means people had to vote something other than straight
ticket to vote for him.
@Brave - you seem sure of it but she's lost in the past, to a white
democrat. I have no idea Matheson's religious affiliation.I
think either candidate is a poor choice yet here we are, stuck.
I don't know Mia Love, but I know Doug Owens. He is very intelligent and
has a quick grasp of issues. He is politically moderate; when I have spoken to
him about issues, his primary concern is how to help middle class families. He
demonstrated his commitment to his own family by taking leave from his law
practice for two years to be with his children while his wife completed her
medical training in pediatrics.
Re: "Get ready for another Utahn spouting nonsense on a constant basis, on
the model of Sen. Lee and Rep. Chaffetz."I'm ready. Bring
it on. The more the better.It's a situation clearly superior to
Utahns spouting genuine Democrat nonsense on a constant basis, on the model of
Matheson, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama.Here's hoping that, once
elected [and, she will definitely be elected], Mia can avoid the orbit of the
Republican establishment, and truly represent the views of the real people that
1978, you are entitled to your own beliefs, not your own facts.Utah
has the thirty-ninth highest per capita income in the USA, $18,185. Utah's
personal per capita income was $24,977. (Source: 2010 United States Census Data
and the 2006-2010 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates)In
2010, the per capita income of the USA was $39,791.Utah's per
capita income is well below the national average.
Great Job Mia. You have my support.
Love will win for three reasons:1. She's LDS.2. She's
Republican.3. She's black.It's ironic: In 2008 and
2012, black people voted for Obama because he was black. In 2014, white people
will vote for Love because she's black.
Mia Love is a solid conservative, with proven experience as a Mayor, which is a
lot better qualification than being the child of a former Congressman.Mia Love favors hard work, responsibility and limited government. Those are
traditional Republican values. These used to be traditional Democrat values as
well, before they morphed into the party of big government, tax and spend,
nanny-state and "free stuff." We have seen how the "new"
Democrat values have destroyed our country, so we should all be eager to get Mia
Love to Congress to help fix our problems.Ironically, in any other
situation, our Democrat friends would be claiming that anyone not willing to
vote for Mia Love must be a racist. Republicans do not judge candidates by the
color of their skin, but the content of their character.I will be
proud to have Mia Love represent Utah in Congress!
Owen's policy and positions are a disaster waiting to happen. Stated
another way, he's very likely to continue the big government ideals of
Barack Obama. Get ready for another liberal spouting nonsense on a constant
basis, on the model of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
The first seven comments are comical. It must be frustrating being upset at
Utah and their Republican domination which has led to being one of the only
states with a AAA bond rating and the second lowest unemployment rate in the
country.And before you comment - Utah also has a higher per capita
income than the National average. I don't vote based on party I vote based
on results and it appears that a majority of Utahns do the same.
The poll results is a triumph of gerrymandering. Splitting liberal Salt Lake
among Utah's four congressional districts will almost always result big
wins for local theocrats.
Yes, its' true Barack Obama does cause people to lose elections.Most democrats have no one but Barack Obama to blame for losing their
elections in 2014.
If Mia will be spouting nonsense, then the founding fathers did the same. The
comments here show just how far some people have slipped away from the founding
principles of this nation.The principles that Mia and others like her
espouse are the same principles that made this nation the greatest, most
prosperous nation on earth.She does have radical ides: Ideas like
our government ought to obey the constitution that they have sworn up uphold and
defend. How about this radical idea: The government should stop seizing
the property of one man and give it to another (ie, let people keep the fruits
of their labors).Maybe we should get really radical and pass a balanced
budget amendment that requires a super majority to borrow money and specifies
specific reasons that congress can borrow?The alternative is
national bankruptcy and the loss of our freedom.
FatherOfFour,I am not arguing that those things will help her win,
but aren't your 1st and 3rd points a little redundant? Also I seem to
remember 2 years ago she lost to someone with a D after his name, and I think
she had your 2nd point going for her last time too. She will win, and your 3
(actually 2) points will help her. But in her district those things are not the
absolutely only things needed to win. I think in this case she actually is the
better of the two candidates to represent Utah. And thus she will, and should,
She will win because of three main reasons:1. She is republican in
Utah.2. The Heritage Foundation, ALEC, the Sutherland Institute, the Club
for Growth, Americans for Prosperity, and the Eagle Forum will flood her
campaign with more money than anyone could ever hope to compete against.3.
She has an R after her name.
She's qualified, at least for Utah. She has a degree in Musical Theater.
It would be nice if she was ahead because if some substance instead of the
'R' in front of the name.
Love's policy and positions are a disaster waiting to happen. Stated
another way, she's very likely to win the election. Get ready for another
Utahn spouting nonsense on a constant basis, on the model of Sen. Lee and Rep.
time to move out of utah.
Just don't become part of the problem!Be a public servant. We
need someone who cares more about America than their ego.Thanks!
Too bad neither is a good option