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Published: Sunday, Aug. 10 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

"Denying a minor who may be a victim of human trafficking access to legal counsel in the highly complicated realm of immigration law may make deportation proceedings more expedient, but at what cost to basic human decency?"

Court dates are terrifying WITH representation. I shudder to think what it is like for these kids.

Redding, CA

My thoughts too, Bishop Wester. Thank you for writing clearly about the problems with Chavetz's proposed law, the problems include anti humanitarian, explicitly un-American.
See my posts on this subject. I see that we have a wave of refugees, not invaders. I see that poor people need help right now with food and shelter, not jail. I see that the root problems include lack of education, gang related violence in their home country, and corrupt governments, but we're failing to even talk much about the root problems and how to change them. We can, we should, we're the example democracy for the world including our own hemisphere. We're failing for too many centuries to help the poor in our own back yard.
Beinvenidos amigos. We can help. Not by Chavetz's law, by a higher law based on caring for our neighbors, based on humanitarian principles.

Salt Lake City, UT

Let's be honest. Jason Chaffetz is, at his core, a political opportunist. His positions have relatively little to do with putting in place policies that help people and relatively much to do with promoting his own political self interest. There's nothing more to him than that.

James E
Tooele, UT

I'm so tired of this false charity. Providing an incentive for Central American parents to send their girls and boys north to the Promised Land is NOT charity. Using the bodies of dead children to promote your social agenda is NOT charity. Releasing children to other people already here illegally is NOT charity. These children are being used as drug mules, sex slaves, and many other heinous activities and enabling their travel into the US is NOT charity. To say it is sanctions that abuse. Stop the insanity!

Salt Lake City, UT

"Thou shalt bear false witness," "Thou shalt not steal," and "Thou shalt not covet," also are very much part of the Gospel. The Texas border situation has been found to be largely a scam, rife with violations of these three commmandments.

Already it has been found for example that very few of the individuals entering illegally are in fact the young children; that of these, fewer still are in fact unnaccompanied (many of them have illegal-alien parents waiting for them in this country, by strategem); that fewer still are in fact fleeing hunger and violence at the peril of their lives (this notion, designed to deviously manipulate the emotions of Americans, has been debunked -- for the most part, those making the trek to enter this country illegally are doing so not because of imminent danger, but rather in direct response to Obama's promise of no deportation.

Most are in fact adults coming here in a covetous desire to enjoy the fruits of freedom but without a willingness to pay the price attached thereto. Other parties, with ulterior motivations, are helping to facilitate this illegal and immoral enterprise.

Chaffetz' proposal seeks to administer relief "In wisdom and in order."

Ft Thomas, KY

I support Rep. Chaffetz and this bill that he is sponsoring. I appreciate that he has the courage to do what is right in regards to illegal immigration
We show a shallow and counterfeit love if we just ignore the law, and let them come in illegally and live with their relatives who are already here illegally. What does that teach them? That laws don't matter?
These illegal immigrants will be more blessed in the long run if they learn about the rule of law and how important it is to the stability of a society. Running away from their problems and illegally entering another country is not the solution.
True love and concern for their long term well being would call us to securely close our border and speedily send home those who have illegally crossed it. Once they are safely home they and their parents can do the courageous, hard work necessary to clean up their own country and make it great.

one old man
Ogden, UT

James E -- please, please spend some time working to learn the truth about what is happening here. Turn off the hate radio and listen to people who tell the truth.

People like Bishop Wester.

NO ONE is trying to use these children to promote their social agenda except those whose social agenda is based on xenophobia and hatred. That includes Mr. Chafetz and many of his GOP accomplices.

Sandy, UT

Yeah, I guess the only really humane and charitable thing to do would be to just erase the borders entirely, and let all 7,000,000,000 of the world's destitute come here, take all available jobs, and gather their sustenance from the U. S. taxpayer. Anything less surely just wouldn't be Christian. That's where we're headed, right? Should be wonderful.

Murray, UT

The mostly teenagers are here for amnesty. If we don't return them it will only lead to more coming here illegally.

If we want to stop them, and save future surges, dying in the desert and being raped, we need to force them to come here legally. Their parents are paying enough for it, one has to question why they use the illegal path.

Compassion would be stopping millions more from coming here illegally. Teaching them that doing things right has rewards, and doing things wrong does not.

Mapleton, UT

Finally, someone who speaks the truth. Thank you Bishop Wester.

Kearns, UT

Thank you James E.
In my studying of this issue, it is the charities, including religious charities that are financially benefiting from this abuse.

Salt Lake City, UT

RE: James E "I'm so tired of this false charity. Providing an incentive for Central American parents to send their girls and boys north to the Promised Land is NOT charity. Using the bodies of dead children to promote your social agenda is NOT charity. Releasing children to other people already here illegally is NOT charity. These children are being used as drug mules, sex slaves, and many other heinous activities and enabling their travel into the US is NOT charity."

Sending these children back to narco-dominated communities as fast as we can is NOT charity!

Murray, UT

In 2013 9% of the children coming here were 12 years or younger. That means 91% are teenagers. Among all countries, less than 1% (94 cases) of apprehended unaccompanied children are younger than 1, and only about 2% (785) are 5 or younger (PEW research)

Also 2 out of three are coming here with a parent or guardian. Honduras sent the most, 13,244, Mexico was second at 11,550, next was Guatemala with 11,449, and El Salvador with 9.835.

Let this be the last time we see this happen.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

That because Jason Chaffetz is a Tea-Publican first and foremost,
and true follower of Jesus Christ second, or third, or fourth....

Orem, UT

Some people seem to think that unless you open up your home and let in anyone who wants to come live there, then you are not charitable. While more can probably be done to help people in other countries, the answer is not to invite everyone in the world to come live here in the U.S.

America is one of the most charitable countries in the world. People freely give money, time, and goods to help poor people all over the world. We let in millions of LEGAL immigrants every year. But if we don't have laws and a border that are respected by people in this country and by people who want to come to this country, then we really are not a country then are we?

Palatka, FL

What about the helpless children dying in the desert because of this administration's siren song- those deaths are on the hands of Washington.

Provo, UT

Chaffetz bill addresses the reason the children (teenagers) are coming here. "Amends the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008 to direct the Secretary of State to negotiate agreements between the United States and other countries for the repatriation of children. Requires that such agreements protect children from severe forms of trafficking in persons and provide for their safe removal and repatriation."

The teenagers coming over the border are not refugees, they are here for the amnesty. They were not trafficked here, their parents paid people to bring them here.

Why pick on Chaffetz? His bill has already been passed as part of the house bill right before the recess. It ends the DACA, ends the Wilberforce bill being used incorrectly, and appropriates money for their deportation. The Wilberforce bill has an opt out for exceptional circumstances. The President could be returning them to their families right now.

Salt Lake City, UT

Bishop Wester gave a speech to a small group at BYU two years ago and I was very impressed with him then. He is great man and I'm pleased that he speaks out so directly on specific issues like this. Chaffetz is an opportunist and lacks compassion, I for one cannot support him.

Provo, UT

Once again, why pick on Chaffetz when his bill has already been covered by another bill that has been passed? It all sounds very political.

Any parent knows that rewarding the bad behavior of a child results in more bad behavior. True compassion is leading people down the road of good behavior, and rewarding them for their efforts. Bad behavior should never be rewarded.

Salt Lake City, UT

"...except those whose social agenda is based on xenophobia and hatred."

A flat-out lie.

"Obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law" is not hatred. Rather, it is the only way to show love and compassion to everyone.

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