It's a wonderful story. I don't know how many times I've heard
of a returning missionaries or faithful members of the church working in some
calling that has helped them say they used the knowledge learned in their
calling to start businesses or expand their capabilities and thus their success.
President Hinkley, if I recall, talked about a man in Mexico who
joined the church, learned some lessons doing his calling, I think as a ward
clerk or financial clerk, something like that. He took those lessons and
applied them to a business opportunity and became successful because of those
lessons and faithful service. I believe the man was acting as President
Hinkley's driver for an assignment there in Mexico and that's how
President Hinkley learned the story. One of my closest friends was
called to the high council and as a contractor, was assigned to be in charge of
the buildings for the stake. He learned a lot about the Church's process
of caring for the chapels and buildings and because of that experience and his
hard work as a contractor was chosen to be the whole county's buildings
Only a foolish person claims that money, in and of itself, is "evil".It is not "money" that is evil. Do those Christians who claim
that really believe that God and Jesus Christ live in a shack? Really?No, "money" is not inherantly evil, but it is the "love of
money" that is evil.Good luck to us all.
@ IRS Agent - PROVO, UT - "The sin is not in being wealthy, it is in the
desire of your heart. The apostles of the church are not paupers, most of them
are very wealthy, and leaders in their respective disciplines (surgeons,
businessmen, pilots, etc.) The reason is that they have learned to make the most
of the talents the Lord gave them. Through dedication, study and perseverance,
they have become successful in the eyes of the world, but the focus was in being
true to stewardship they were entrusted from above. As I tell my children, if
you are the best at what you do, there will always be work for you and you will
be comfortable. If your position in life is a farmer, be the best farmer in the
valley. It makes no difference what you do, it is "how" you do it. Make
the most of whatever talent you have. Make that your focus, and the rest will
come. Make money your focus, and you will start to look for an "edge" to
beat out the next guy. That is where the downfall starts."If I
could give you a thousand "Likes", I would.Well said!
From broke newlywed to billionaire. Awesome!If he can do it, so can
I.And, who knows?...maybe I will!
It doesn't matter if the Lord has blessed you with ten thousand dollars, a
million dollars, or a billion dollars. You have a stewardship over that money
and a responsibility to use it wisely to bless your family, your community, and
even strangers.Some here believe that no matter how much you have,
you don't deserve it and it should be taxed away from you so that someone
else gets to decide how it will be used.Sure, some people completely
neglect their stewardship and use all their wealth for personal comfort and
aggrandizement; but it is uplifting to hear a story like this where someone who
is blessed with a lot of money is trying their best to have it also bless as
many others as possible.
Thanks be to God for using this brother to help others. God bless him for what
he is doing.
I would like to make as much money as I possibly can, in balance with everything
else I need to do. If I have a certain amount, I know that I can live
perpetually on the interest. Beyond that, the interest or income that can be
generated on amounts beyond what I need for the reasonable needs and
conservative desires of myself and my family can be used to bless others. As
much as I would prefer for the world not to be money-based, it is. So if, by my
efforts, I can generate more than I need, I will then be in the position to do
for some others what they currently cannot. I hope I get into that position,
and I wish there were more people with that mindset in the world.
I know the man. As a missionary, I served in his ward for 7 months. His twins
nearly died in a car accident just prior to my arrival. He was also the stake
president. I have nothing but glowing words for this man. Even with all his
trials and responsibilities, he went on splits with me EVERY Thursday for 7
months. We ate lunch at his house every Monday for 7 months. He bought homes
for those that were in need. Every new member of the church was given a
subscription to Liahona and every inactive member was also given a subscription,
paid for by Carlos Martins. On Christmas Eve, his wife, Vania, dropped off
hundreds of dollars of food at our door. The stories go on and on.You may say what you want about riches, but this man was and still is today
the greatest man I've ever personally known.
JayTeeSandy, UT"You didn't build that!" -- Barack
Obama-----------------Exaggerate much by taking words
out of context?The president's remark was made in the context
of his belief that wealthy citizens should pay higher taxes to serve the public
good:"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree
with me—because they want to give something back. They know they
didn't—look, if you've been successful, you didn't get
there on your own... If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you
some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to
create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to
thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a
business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
I don't begrudge anyone their wealth as it stands. But this does nourish
the irritating assumption among LDS that a church member's wealth is a
direct consequence of their virtue - i.e. the more worthy the richer, the less
worthy the poorer. This is what we assume in this culture.
Some people are driven to accumulate. Most of us are not. Those of us who are
not should not feel inferior to those so inclined.
Just a little strange to me that he changed his middle name to Wizard. Not sure
I quite follow that but he sure seems to be doing a lot of good out there
though, which is very admirable.
I am as conservative as they come, but I do not think it is inappropriate or
judgemental to quote Hugh Nibley, or even the Savior when questions of wealth
arise. They are fair questions. And, the disparity in incomes between the rich
and poor is a valid concern. Granted, these disucssions are often polluted with
personal political opinions and unfair accusations such as "you're just
jealous" or "you're being judgmental". God has
wealth to give - some receive more than others. That doesn't bother me. It
is also that God has given some pretty stict warnings about the pursuit of
wealth - probably because so few can pursue it with His purposes in mind. What
is really "the love of money"? What did the Savior mean when he
introduced the warning about the camel and the eye of the needle? Or the D&C
warning about "it is not given to one man to posess that which is above
another"? Fair questions.Don't ignore fair questions and
discussions just because of a mind-set that wealth isn't wrong - sometimes
it is, sometimes it isn't. I want to have those discussions.
Wow folks, perhaps we should all take a deep breath, take this article at face
value, smile and pick fewer nits.It's noteworthy when anyone
rises from a humble background to be a billionaire. This billionaire happens to
be a member of the Church. Newspapers write about things people find
noteworthy, No one need believe that notoriety places anyone above another. I
certainly don't think so and I don't assume others do.I
suspect if this same article was in the Finance section some folks would feel
compelled to question why it wasn't in the Faith section since the article
mentions this man's membership, his mission and his prayers.The
article reports on a newsworthy aspect of the life of a man who shares my faith.
I found it uplifting, the same way I find articles about folks who use their
faith to overcome adversity or unite their family to be uplifting. I suppose if
I looked hard enough I could have found something to criticize about
it...choosing to do so, however, seems counterproductive.
Hugh Nibley was not a "poor" man. He had vast wealth, but he used it to
further the work of the Lord. Carlos Martins is not a "poor" man. He
has used his wealth to help others and he has accepted responsibilities in the
LDS Church that require a huge time commitment. The Lord is not a
"poor" man. He uses his "wealth" to bless the lives of each of
us. He charges nothing for the air we breathe, for the sunshine and moisture
that enables us to grow our food, for the opportunities that we have in life to
better ourselves so that we can assist others to become better.In
our economic society, wealth is necessary before we have adequate ability to
help others. Digging with our hands in the soil is less effective than using a
shovel. Using a shovel is less effective than using a tractor. The man with a
tractor can benefit many more people than the man who has no tools.The Lord blesses those whose hearts are pure and whose intentions include
helping others. People of many faiths have been blessed financially and they
have blessed many others.
If only I had a good work ethic.
DaniteYour judgement of him is inappropriate. There is no evidence
given here that he got his money dishonestly or otherwise inapropriately such as
neglecting his family in the pursuit of wealth. For you to manufacture such an
assumption is the kind of judgement of others that the scriptures teach is
It is interesting to see the political comments with this story. Once again,
Democrats and Republicans can use their typical talking points to completely
miss the reality that every last one of us is where we are today not because of
our own intelligence, skill, or work ethic. We are where we are wholly and
completely because of the blessings of a loving Heavenly Father. Yes, we can
choose to use the intelligence, skills and work ethics we have, but we were
given those as blessings. Isn't it sad to see someone lacking in work
ethic? That is so limiting for individuals! We know there is a wide range of
differences in levels of intelligence, and some people obtain greater skills
than others based on their life experiences and efforts. Regardless, we are all
beggars, and we have all been blessed. I am not wealthy, as is the subject of
this story. It doesn't matter! Happiness comes from making good choices and
doing the best we can. I believe this story will be great for Monday's FHE.
When we went to pick up our son in 2000 from his mission in Brazil, we visited
several towns where he had labored and met many wonderful people.During our time there, our son explained that many of the returned Brazilian
missionaries were going inactive because after their missions, they returned to
a life without hope of escaping the extreme poverty that many had come from.One of the towns we visited was Vitoria. We went to church there and
met the LDS Bishop and later had lunch with his family. He was very young
(probably late 20's early 30's). They were obviously doing very well
financially as compared to some of the other great families we met on our
trip.Carlos Martins had been his Bishop or Stake President
(can't remember which). When this young man got off of his mission,
Martins basically set him up in business with the Vitoria Wizard franchise.
Obviously it had been a financial blessing in his life and his family's
life.Not sure how many others he helped out, but this Bishop had
nothing but praise for Martins.
I am with Hugh Nibley = brilliant man. The trick is to make money HONESTLY --
the 'trick' is that most people use their own definition of
'honestly', with total rationalizations of every kind imaginable.
Every time I think I have heard them all, a new one is spoken right in front of
me. And usually by someone I had considered basically 'honest' -- go
figure. We make excuses for what we do and think, usually AFTER-THE-FACT! We do
not, as we ought, measure what we do and think by the Sermon on the Mount's
teachings. It is too simple for most. I was reminded this week from Chapter 16
of Teachings of JFS -- that the Sermon on the Mount is a simple test for whether
we will enter into the presence of the Lord -- live it and we will. Disregard
any part of it, and we lose out -- as JFS says, we cannot pick and choose which
parts of the Gospel we obey. Personally, I see making money at the expense of
others = dishonest, making money on money produces no service or product =
dishonest; making money for evil purposes = dishonest; making money while
disregarding priorities = dishonest;
Malihini found a message in this article that widely differed from what I found.
I was enlightened and edified by a story of how a young, disadvantaged man
created a successful and abundant life for himself by applying valid and true
principles of material success while remaining loyal to his spiritual beliefs
and dedication to God. Had the story been simply young, poor man with a family
gets a college education, it would have been good. But it goes far beyond that.
It became, young, poor man gets a BYU education, enters the corporate world,
discovers a good way to serve humanity, it goes well for him, he remains solid
in his faith and values and worth emulating. I guess Malihini sees
the world much different than I do. I will be sharing this story with my
15-year-old son. As for Danite, I also seem to have found a who lot
of spiritual and faith value in the story than he did, as well. I do like to
There are a couple ways to get rich.Some get that way by working
hard together with a great bunch of people who share a common goal; building
value with great products and/or services; and sharing the rewards that come
with that success. The reward may not be equal, but everyone's contribution
is valued and loyalty between both owners and workers is strong.Others get that way by always chasing the cheapest and quickest alternative to
fill an immediate need. Loyalty means little where workers never stay long and
jobs are outsourced whenever an opportunity presents itself.There
are plenty of examples of each. Those who see a big problem with "income
inequality" seem to think that all capitalists belong in the second
category. In an effort to right all the wrongs they see, leftists are using the
power of government to try and thwart businesses from gaining too much wealth
and power and "exploit workers".Unfortunately, this also
creates an environment where it is becoming harder and harder for someone in the
first category to build a successful business that can be very beneficial to
My concern is not that this brother is wealthy, my concern is that this article
is found in a Faith section of a publication. I'm stunned that we take the
accumulation of wealth and connected it to things of "Faith". They do
not mix, they cannot mix, and we when we try to mix them, we are fooling
ourselves. If this was about this brothers consecration and giving
to those in need that would be acceptable in the Faith section, however, I
understood this article to be highlighting his accumulation of wealth and not
much more. I'm not judging him nor am I jealous of him, but I guess I am
judging all of the Saints that read articles like this and say "wow, neat-o,
he must be blessed".
Why is it that the church, and many of it's members, is so infatuated with
the wealthy people and/or the celebrities, i.e., the recent book and marketing
efforts of Elder Archeletta. I mean, do you have to be wealthy to be a good
member of the church? Is Steve Young and John Huntsman a better, more worthy
member of the church because they became famous and wealthy, i.e., blessed with
riches? Was David Archeletta a better missionary than others because he can
sing? I just don't understand what the point of these types of
articles is. Spencer W. Kimball once gave a talk comparing the Israelite answer
of, "we will have our king" that was given to Samuel in comparison to
modern day members of the church. It seems that we must have our Kings as well.
We must have our famous people, we must revere our wealthy people and we must
attribute adoration as the world does, by outward appearances. Yes, "we
will have our king" just as the world has theirs.
The sin is not in being wealthy, it is in the desire of your heart. The apostles
of the church are not paupers, most of them are very wealthy, and leaders in
their respective disciplines (surgeons, businessmen, pilots, etc.) The reason is
that they have learned to make the most of the talents the Lord gave them.
Through dedication, study and perseverance, they have become successful in the
eyes of the world, but the focus was in being true to stewardship they were
entrusted from above. As I tell my children, if you are the best at what you do,
there will always be work for you and you will be comfortable. If your position
in life is a farmer, be the best farmer in the valley. It makes no difference
what you do, it is "how" you do it. Make the most of whatever talent you
have. Make that your focus, and the rest will come. Make money your focus, and
you will start to look for an "edge" to beat out the next guy. That is
where the downfall starts.
Those who achieve success will always be criticized by those who are jealous.
What we need are more people who, like the subject of this article, are willing
to give back. Sullivan Ballou have a good example of this when he stated "I
have no misgivings about, or lack of confidence in the cause in which I am
engaged, and my courage does not halt or falter. I know how . . . great a debt
we owe to those who went before us through the blood and sufferings of the
Revolution. And I am willing—perfectly willing—to lay down all my
joys in this life, to help maintain this Government, and to pay that debt . .
."Those who are willing to sacrifice for what is right will be
richly rewarded for doing so.
people of different values have money. the quantity may be great or small.
Paul's letter to Timothy wasn't abt money. it IS abt inappropriate
love or excessive love of money, what it represents and symbolizes to the person
who has it. one can have money and not love it: respect it, use it, work for it,
trade it for family needswhat would you sacrifice, give, surrender
to acquire money, more money, lots of money ? KJV Bible uses the word "ALL
EVIL"; other translations say "all kinds of evil" Paul wrote
"COVETED"; other translations use "longing and "craving"
money is not the root of evil. evil is self-existent. Satan lies:
one cannot buy anything (or everything) with money
He should have to give all the money to his employees - he didn't create
this value. And to think, instead of working hard and using his
ingenuity, he could have sit down and blamed the rich people around him for
being in poor financial conditions!
The intelligence of the individual, given the opportunity to succeed or fail is
a marvelous thing to observe. In the collective, ideas of the individual are
squashed if the idea does not benefit the whole. In actuality, one
individual's ideas coupled with the will to succeed and assistance from
others to do so, can benefit the entire community, in more ways than financial.
Obama does not understand this and insists, like those Socialist/Saul Alinsky
followers who went before him, that you truly can fit a 5 lb sausage into a 10
lb bag. Abandoning individuality for the will of the collective is like banning
air...it cannot be done. You can only suppress it, like air, but it will always
escape.Great story of individual success. How many jobs did he
provide? Are you listening, Obama?
nice story, very inspiring. A shame people use this for political comments.
@ BaddogDannite comment in no way condemned the Man in the article.
It is just simply stating to me that the Lord doesn't really care if you
become rich or not in this life.I have read a similarly phrased
conference talk by General Authorities.
Good for him! After obtaining a hope in Christ, we are to seek riches so we can
do good with them. This saint has done that. Thank you to the saint, to the
writer, the assignment editor, and all who contributed to the telling of this
Mountain Man, I am sorry you don't see the wonderful opportunities this
country still offers us. The is the home of 1/3 of the world's
billionaires. You don't have to be born rich to make it. Sure we pay
taxes, but many countries tax at higher rates. Sure several of our presidents
have been less than stellar in the last 30 years, but don't give up. You
give up on your opportunity and you are giving up on your children's
opportunity. Vote strong men into office. Run for office yourself.
re:danite ; Jonathan PDX Oh contrare, my friend. If you will browes the Book of
Jacob you might change your mind. I believe he said if you are righteous and
seek riches for the purpose of doing good it's okay. \Yes, the love
of money is the root of all evil.... who loves money more, those who have it or
those who don't?
To "Danite" I think what you are looking for is this:Jacob
2:19 "And after ye have obtained a hope in Christ ye shall obtain riches, if
ye seek them; and ye will seek them for the intent to do good—to clothe
the naked, and to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer
relief to the sick and the afflicted."Seems like Martins did
just as the scriptures proclaim.
"You didn't build that!" -- Barack Obama
The crux of this man experience and beliefs? Learn, listen, pray, trust, work,
obey, share.One cant help but be respectful of those such as this man, who
have a personal and trusting relationship with God, and who has taken
opportunity to not only provide well for himself and has family, but for others
@Danite-Judge not lest ye be judged….
1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV) "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which
while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves
through with many sorrows."This was, is, and always will be true
and is played out again and again in our lives on a daily basis (just watch the
news)."My parents...felt people were losing track of the notion
of right and wrong, with misplaced principles, values, ethics and a lack of
mutual respect..."And Carlos and his parents are exactly right,
many business leaders have lost sight of the notion of doing what's right
in favor of doing what's monetarily profitable, regardless of how it
affects others - their employees, their vendors, their customers. It's all
about the money.Too bad more business leaders aren't about
doing what's right for the many (including their employees, vendors and
customers) as opposed to doing what's profitable for the few regardless of
the long-term consequences. Doing what's right may not give
back a boatload of profit in the short term, but in the long run, its effects
are often incalculable.
He could not have accomplished that in America today! Obama would tell him,
"You didn't build that" and the EPA, Obamacare, the Dept of
Education and the IRS would destroy his company and all his employees would lose
Danite -- Are you jealous? At face value, I'd say Brother
Martins' camel could thread the eye of a needle. As to our
judgments, they mean nothing. It is between him and the Lord, your judgment
Great story! it is inspiring to see people come from nowhere succeeding and
thriving in life on their own without government "help"
"In no place do the scriptures, including the voices of our modern prophets,
assent to the goal of amassing the goods of this earth. Such a course is to
yield to Satan's Golden Question: "Do you have any money?" "From the time of Adam to the present day, Zion has been pitted
against Babylon, and the name of the game has always been money -'power and
gain'.""The trick is to appear rich as a result of
being good- to cultivate the virtue of respectability." -Hugh
Nibley, Approaching Zion
Awesome article! Awesome guy! Would love to hear him speak! Please let us
know if he comes to the Salt Lake area! Very inspiring!