The waiver passed the vote this morning. Common sense won out over the
emotional blackmail that was being thrown at the board.2,100
signatures vs. 2.8 million common everyday folk doesn't hold a lot of
water. The standards are good. They aren't much different from what we had
before. If we would have just stayed with Smarter Balance (which was
spearheaded by Utah by the way), we would be sitting quite nice financially.
At any rate the waiver will go forward and our schools can go ahead
with the hirings the have already done for the coming year.
Orem Parent, that is very arrogant to assume you know what 2100 people know and
don't know. Your comments reveal that while you may be familiar with the
standards, you are not familiar with the Waiver under discussion here, or any of
the other Stimulus programs that incentivized not just Common Core but a number
of other reforms including data collection, teacher accountability and federally
approved assessments aligned to Common Core. The same four policy requirements
have been identical in each program from the State Fiscal Stabilization Fund,
Race to the Top and the Waiver. Common Core is not data collection, but it is
very much connected to it because it was adopted part and parcel with the other
reforms. The CCSSO who own the copyright to the standards has been working on
better ways to centrally collect and compare student data. They needed Common
Standards across states to do this. They have published extensively about their
data goals. Such specificity for common standards were not designed for
children. It defies what we know about variations in cognitive development.
These standards were designed for more homogenous statistics across states with
the purpose of increasing centralized decision-making in education.
bill in af,Common Core does dictate how you teach. Instead of
letting you, the teacher, decide how to spend your class reading time, Common
Core dictates that you spend 50% of your time on informational text and 50% of
your time on literature in elementary grade. Prior to Common Core, you could
decide to spend 80% of your reading time on informational text if you wanted to
and thought it was in the best interests of your students. Now you can't.
You want to talk about federal overreach? The NCLB waiver requires
federal approval of standards adopted by states (Assurance 1) and requires
standards to be submitted to the Dept. of Education for review (Attachment #7).
NCLB on the other hand actually prohibits this: "no State shall be required
to have academic content or student achievement standards approved or certified
by the Federal Government,in order to receive assistance under this Act."
and "... a State shall not be required to submit such standards to the
Secretary." The waiver from the law actually violates the law.
@Orem Parent- the NCLB waiver has EVERYTHING to do with Common Core. To get the
waiver, we have to agree to a set of common standards.
here you go grandma. None of this is common core:"Things like
data collection, curriculum that is not consistent with the values of the
majority of Utahns, the dumbing down of our kids, making them common instead of
individuals who learn at different rates through different teaching
tactics."Common core is a set of standards.
Again we hear more lies spread by the anti common core uninformed.
Grandma Char: Informational text is an improvement over what was required
before. Teachers select their own informational text examples used in class.
No one dictates what I have to teach. I am a well tranined teacher with 38
years of experience. We as teachers are the same people who live next door to
you who raise our children with the same values you do. When did educators
become the bad guys?? Sex education is NOT woven through ALL subjects.
Where is your proof? Come to my classroom anytime and see what is really going
on in education. Comments like yours give no credibility to your arguements
which is typical of most anti common core uniformed. NCLB was more of
a federal education program based on federal government over-reach with not a
lot of reasonable thought out requirements. CC is a step in bringing education
back more under local control.
Maybe Orem Parent would like to tell us all what "common core is"? Most people don't understand how many things are linked to common
core. Things like data collection, curriculum that is not consistent with the
values of the majority of Utahns, the dumbing down of our kids, making them
common instead of individuals who learn at different rates through different
So state school board are you going to listen to the business leaders and
education leaders or a group of about 2,000 that don't really even
understand what the common core is? This waiver really has nothing to do with
the common core at all but this group really wants to turn it into just that.Please get the waiver. If our schools have to go back to NCLB and the
AYP reporting system, it will be a huge step backwards.
Even Bill Gates whose baby all these standardized tests are has said parents
should opt their kids out of the tests. Common Core is more than
just a set of standards. The curriculum that goes along with it is damaging our
kids. Math is presented in a way that takes all the joy out of learning and in
a way where parents are cut out of the education process. English is now 70%
"informational text" for high school students. Who chooses this
"informational text" and what does it teach our kids? Just the sex ed
part is enough to make me run from this forced federalization of our schools.
Sex education is woven through all subjects in K-12. It's sickening. Utah was doing just fine before Common Core came. We can go back to
that. If you think America is doing poorly compared to the rest of the world,
it is because we test everyone, most countries only test their top students. We
are more than holding our own in education.
It is time for Utah to cut themselves free from federal involvement in our
schools. The really scary stuff is still coming in curriculum that does not
support the values of the citizens of Utah. The Salt Lake Chamber
of Commerce should not have a seat at this table. It is working with the Gates
Foundation in support of Common Core. It is becoming more and more clear that
people like Mike Leavitt are part of the big machine of government who no longer
know what it is to be just a citizen. Kim Burningham's comment
about administrators having to fire new teachers was preposterous. It is a
scare tactic. School boards have a lot of money, and this federal money is a
drop in the bucket. I believe, at least here in Davis County, that the district
office siphons way too much money from the fund and they could cut back and
leave our local schools and their teachers alone.I hope the State
School board takes the plunge today and rejects the waiver as a starting point
for getting Utah out of the grip of the federal government.
If not the common core, then what? The old Utah core? Really? Following a core
set of standards other than the common core will place Utah on an education
island. The common core is flexible enough to meet our needs and there are
curriculums written to teach it. There are really no curriculums focused on the
Utah core. Never have been and unless the state wants to go into the curriculum
business, probably never will be. What really needs to happen is that education
needs to change so that our students are creating authentic knowledge from what
they learn and presenting it in a way that demonstrates what they can really do
in the real world. Until we get to that type of an education system we will be
stuck with things like standardized tests.
As of this evening, the Utahns Against Common Core letter has the signatures of
more than 2,100 Utah Tax Payers. DON'T sign the waiver. Get Utah out of
Common Core and then get Utah out of ALL federal entanglements. Kim
Burningham's millions turn out to be less than 1/2 of 1% of our state
education budget. Don't be fooled folks. We could find every
dime of that money and more just by kicking American Institutes for Research out
of the state.
No funding is lost if we return to NCLB, but flexibility of how a small
percentage of Title I funds can be spent is affected. The $26 million figure
described in the article is a very small percentage of the overall education
budget which reportedly has a $50 million surplus right now in addition to the
assurances of legislators to fund the difference. While it doesn't solve
all problems of executive overreach, we can afford to cut this tether to
micromanagement of our schools and one-size-fits-all mandates invented by
unelected bureaucrats in DC who lack perspective on the challenges unique to the
schools in different Utah communities.
Now that you've had a sampling of soundbites from various sides, some facts
might be helpful: While some provisions of No Child Left Behind (NCLB) are
delayed for a year by renewing the current waiver, it also requires Utah to
commit to a number of new policies in regard to standards, assessments, data
collection and teacher accountability under the supervision by Federal
Department of Ed. NCLB allows for states to request waivers on their own terms.
We do not have to commit to additional terms in exchange, in fact NCLB expressly
forbids that (see NCLB Sec. 9401)