Quantcast

Comments about ‘Hatch says liberal senators seeking new monument should 'keep their mitts off Utah'’

Return to article »

Published: Thursday, Aug. 7 2014 3:55 p.m. MDT

Updated: Thursday, Aug. 7 2014 4:09 p.m. MDT

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
JMH
Provo, UT

Former Senator Jake Garn had it correctly when he admonished Senator Dodd of Connecticut that he would be willing to match him acre for acre in wilderness areas. If they wanted 50K acres in Utah then Dodd should find 50K acres in Connecticut. It is all to easy for Senators of other states to propose wilderness and monuments for states that have no impact on their constituents. Hatch is exactly right when he states they make these proposals to satisfy the demands of their liberal campaign donors. I think we should make all of Hollywood and much of Silicon Valley national monuments and tell the people there to find another place to reside. (TIC)

Incite Full
Layton, UT

Nice try, Hatch, but ultra-liberals don't have the intellectual depth to understand Utah past the woefully inadequate label of a state filled with ultra conservatives they can poke in the eye.

ODannyBoy
Sandy, Utah

Dear Senator Hatch,
Federal land. Belongs to all Americans - not just Utah. They are are not suggesting "taking" land from Utah. Federal land - belongs to all Americans.

mcclark
Salt Lake City, UT

Hatch has worked very hard to make sure that "nutritional supplements" have never been studied to see if they are good for you, bad for you, or don't do anything at all. He has earned the money their lobbyists have given him.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Me thinks Hatch is doing the same thing he is accusing the "liberal senators" of. That being trying to raise money from the capitalist cronies in the oil business. If Senator Hatch would look at the Utah polls as well as the National polls he'd see that the majority of Amercians want their public land protected from the very people they'd sell them off too.

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

The problem Mr Hatch is that decisions like protecting land isn't made by the people of Utah, it is made by politicians who are getting a lot of money for their campaigns from companies, many of which are not Utah companies, to keep land available for mining and oil and gas.

If it came down to a vote by Utahans, and the question was "Do you think land surrounding Canyonlands NP should be federally protected? I think that vote comes back as a yes.

My advice to Utah politicians is if you think this is going to happen, come up with a compromise fast, take some action, because when it comes to invoking the antiquities act the President doesn't need you.

Steve C. Warren
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

In the late 1970s, a friend name Penny supported Sherman Lloyd for the Republican senatorial nomination while I supported Hatch. As the years have passed and I see what Sen. Hatch has accomplished during his decades in office, one thing has become clear: Penny was right.

RichardB
Murray, UT

I have no problem with preserving the land for future generations. It's our gift to America, and Gods gift to us.

MurrayGuy
Murray, UT

The problem is when the government declares these as "monuments" we LOSE all access to it. So those of you who say "what's the big deal?" Big deal is that this is our State, we should have a say in what happens to it and he's dead on by saying what does a Senator from another state know about us. I would guess if you wanted the same in another state you would get the same response.

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

Hatch: "[W]e understand our lands a lot better than they'll ever understand them." Translation: We know how to exploit the federal lands in Utah better than those gol-durned Easterners."

In that one sentence, Hatch exposes the fatal flaw in his argument. It's not "our lands," meaning Utahns' lands. He can't seem to comprehend the fact that federal lands belong to all Americans.

I hope Pres. Obama has a commission study and hear all the competing viewpoints, then exerts his authority under the Antiquities Act to designate a new Greater Canyonlands National Monument, citing all the reasons why. At least then Hatch and his cronies can't complain that they were hit by a Pearl Harbor-like "sneak attack."

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

Re MurrayGuy: When you say we lose all access to land that becomes a monument what exactly do you mean? You do realize that if this national monument goes through it will mean that every person in the United States of America can legally walk on just about every inch of land in that monument literally any time they want right?

So by lose all access do you mean that we lose access to exploit the land for mining? And who is the "we" in your statement? You can't possibly be referring to regular Americans or even foreign tourists? Does your "we" refer to only oil, gas and coal?

Do you realize that "we" as in every person in the world, have access to visit and explore National Monuments any time we want?

homers
Provo, UT

Before we trash Hatch here we should remember that the High Uintas Wilderness, Vermillion Cliffs, Paria Canyon, and the 800,000 acres of wilderness in the state are all the result of legislation cosponsored by Senator Hatch. I think that painting him as some kind of rabid anti- environmental type is inaccurate. If I remember correctly he also co- sponsored the attempt to designate Westwater and Cataract Canyons as wild and scenic rivers and also fought to keep the Atlas Mill Tailings pile from being capped on site. My experience with him in Grand County is that when it comes to Grand County he puts a higher premium on what the citizens of Grand County want than what the citizens of Salt Lake County want to have happen in Grand County and that he realizes that while public lands "belong to all Americans" how those public lands are managed effects the people who are local to those lands a lot more than they effect Salt Lake County citizens or, especially, citizens of another state. I think this view is as it should be.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Utah has such beautiful federal lands.

By rights, at least half the state should be a national monument.

?
SLC, UT

Byronbca: Do you not remember the national parks shutdown about a year ago. MurrayGuy has a legitimate concern about people not being able to have access to this land at the whim of the president on whether or not the park is open. Taking more land from Utah doesn't seem right. A similar thing in happening in Idaho with some folks wanting to create the Boulder-White Clouds national monument. Why the need to create these monuments? Who does it help and who will it hurt in the long run? JMH makes a good point. Those so anxious to take land from Utah, are they just as willing to give up land in their own states to match land taken from Utah and other states out west? If not, why?

Kim
Cedar Park, Texas

I don't understand why people think this is a proposal for taking Utah land. This is already federal land. There is no taking of any land owned by the State or private individual. What is proposed is a change in designation of already existing federal land. Yes, it will entail additional restrictions on usage, but if the land meets the criteria, it should be so designated. Hopefully they will go through a fair process to reach that conclusion. Preserving federal land with outstanding recreational features benefits everyone, including those in Utah!

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey ? -

"Those so anxious to take land from Utah . . ."

Federal land in Utah is Federal Land.

Nobody wants to take OUR land from Utah. We can't take what's already ours.

It's ALREADY our land.

It doesn't belong to Utah.

Get used to it.

Face the facts.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

A story and interview about federal lands and monuments, and then Mitt Romney is thrown in there?

What?!

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

To answer the question posed by ?

Because Utah is beautiful and Connecticut not so much...

So let them tear down the trees and pave themselves a parking lot...

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Provo, UT

ODannyBoy,

Right...

It seems you believe the Federal Government perfectly represents the American people.
It seems you believe the Federal Government would never stick it's nose where it ought not.

I don't believe either.

And if you still aren't convinced, then fine. I'll agree to the government taking land south of my home if you agree to them testing nuclear weapons north of yours.

Locals clearly shouldn't get a say in anything. After all- the land belongs to all Americans.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

When all is said and done, more will be said than done. That being said, what will the aging senator do to support his rhetoric?

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments