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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 6 2014 10:30 a.m. MDT

Updated: Wednesday, Aug. 6 2014 8:58 p.m. MDT

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kcmannn
Salt Lake City, UT

I hope they come in January when we have no breathable air. We'll show them how e manage the environment and our beautiful state.

Esquire
Springville, UT

A perfect motivation to declare the new monument. Either that, or the Gov. is trying to show them that Utah's land is pretty much not worth much and they shouldn't bother.

photobeauty
Blanding, UT

I hope that those who are supporting even more stringent Federal control of Utah lands realize that they are condemning Utah school children to a level of support for public education that will continue to be very poor. Tax dollars that support our public schools can come from gas, oil, coal, uranium, potash, etc. in much greater amounts than any national park or monument will ever produce. Modern methods to develop natural resources are less intrusive than in the past and will be a good thing for our economy. Think of what is best for our school children.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Gary ought to explain to these 14 senators, should they choose to show up, how much money the state will lose for the School Lands Trust Fund when these parcels get locked up in a national monument and can't generate any income for the state schools. The state lost a ton of that money when Clinton locked up that huge parcel with the Escalante Grande Staircase thing. There was a lot of coal in them there hills.

I'd pay money to see Bernie Sanders in a life jacket on the Colorado River.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Great! When those Senators actually see the land, they'll push even harder for a National Monument.

I hope Gary Herbert shows them Beck Street, too. Then they can see for themselves how Utah manages lands....

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

A monument would bring in far, far more money than what is currently happening in that area.
People in norther Arizona were very opposed to the Grand Canyon being made a monument almost 100 years ago. Now look at it, they make millions of dollars every year off of the canyon.
I know most Americans would prefer a monument to another C Bundy situation in that area.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Has there ever been a stronger argument to a Democrat in the WH than this? Finally our Extraction Industry supported GOP is realizing not only the American public but the power base in Washington has them outnumbered.

kiddsport
Fairview, UT

I'd like to know who or what is really behind a bunch of Senators pushing Obama to use his pen and phone to lock up a large parcel of Utah to which they have no representative interest.Why don't they push for such measures in their home states and leave it to Utah's representatives to recommend (or not) such actions in Utah?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I have no problem setting aside truly magnificent or unique land as a national monument but this does NOT qualify as either. I can go anywhere in the west desert of Utah and find the same look and feel. So this begs the question WHY are the feds after more Utah land and why is Herbert so willing to give it up? Seems to me it is time to say NO MORE LANDING GRABBING to the feds. If the feds own the land then you can forget oil/gas exploration because the EPA will lock it up.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

Legistlators do not care about education in this state. Arguing if the state could just have more control of these lands then we would have more money for education is a farce.

Daddiooh
Orem, UT

it is a political ploy and nothing more by these Senators. I don't doubt the president will do it because he wants his hands in everything and the Democratic senators know this. This is just a ploy to try to punish a conservative state and flex political muscles where they can.

And yes our air sucks in the Winter, but if you want to blame someone, blame the cars--#1 cause of bad air in the state. So liberals, stay home from work and don't drive. Geez!

James E
Tooele, UT

Utah is doing better economically than the various east- and west-coast people's republiks because we have a diverse economy. Technology, financial, manufacturing, metals, fuel, all made in Utah. Jobs created by national parks are a handful of service industry jobs; maids, tour operators, waitresses and of course, federal employees. Jobs created by ore and fuel extraction are living-wage, career jobs. And if we can't dig in the dirt in the middle of nowhere, where can we do it?

If these busy-body politicians can't be bothered to come out and see how their Imperial overreach affects local people then they should stay home and pass another ban on incandescent light bulbs.

Jim Cobabe
Provo, UT

The National Park proposal is a very generous idea. Since the concept is so appealing, let's have each of the senators urging the proposed park to designate equal areas of land in their own home states for the honor of promotion to permanent federal "management". I'm certain their contituents will cheer enthusiastically for the opportunity to create such a splendid legacy.

We can have the federal government appropriate 1.8 million acres each from Illinois, Wisconson, Connecticut, California, Ohio, Iowa, Massachusetts (twice!), New Jersey, Washington, Vermont, Hawaii, Michigan, and especially Rhode Island.

Oh, wait. I'm sorry, I forgot that Rhode Island doesn't even HAVE quite that much area withhin their great little state. So they can be excused, I suppose.

Osgrath
Provo, UT

It appears that a few responders here misunderstand the Governor's motivation here. He does not want national monument designation and hopes that letting the 14 senators experience the situation close up will influence them to not push their proposal. As Chaffetz did, he will introduce our-of-state law makers to the locals who will be impacted by this.

There is another point to consider, as well. The land in question already belongs to the federal government and therefore, with our without national monument status, contributes nothing to Utah education. Meanwhile, the State of Utah still will not administer this land - that falls to the BLM. The only way this situation changes to local control is if the Feds grant the land to the state. That won't happen in my lifetime or in yours, I suspect.

Meanwhile, I will choose to excited about things I have a modicum of control over.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Proximity is not ownership. Just because I live near a City Park does not make it mine, but I appreciate being able to use use it without destroying it, along with all the other folks who wish to. I'm not angry because I can't build my house on this public place, I am happy that others can't build or dig of burn it up, or fence it off so that only they can use it.

America is still growing and short sighted folks look at open spaces as ugly or useless, unless they are turning some kind of profit from it. Our children's children will look at this as visionary and be thankful that someone had the forethought to think of them instead of me, right her,e right now, that's all there is.

Locals are already lucky to live near such great places and not have to travel from Rhode Island to picnic there.

When Utah reimburses the nations tax payers for the multiple Super Site Clean-up's in Utah, you can talk about responsibility and good management.

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

National monuments are way cool and will bring in billions and billions to us compared to any development from fossil fuels because we all know that’s not worth anything nowadays. School children in Utah are not as important as the rocks because rocks are pretty and our president and the 14 senators think the rocks are pretty too so our president should lock the land up without any approval from any body else cause he knows best what’s pretty and we trust him.

one old man
Ogden, UT

When they see it, they'll realize that it really does need additional protection that monument status would provide. They might even push for designating more acreage.

Good idea!

mufasta
American Fork, UT

Good Job Jim. Fall in line with the rest of your cronies. I would think after representing the citizens of this state, you would be lobbying for them to keep control of their natural resources. Instead, you are lobbying for the federal government to take control of them. Would you feel the same way if it were a letter requesting that federal government take control of the California coastlines? They have far more environmental and economic impact than ANYTHING Utah has. I doubt you would support that effort because the rest of your cronies would be opposed. That is a sad commentary on your commitment to the people to Utah. Hurry and go away.

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