What Cougsndawgs said.
@deductive reasoningI already gave the explanation. You can look up
the articles yourself and read all about it.
Jefe-UteIf KT was penciled in as the starter last season, why would
he leave an elite program like Oklahoma to play for a bottom dwelling program
@worfYour comment shows your inability to research situations. KT
was penciled in at starter going into fall camp last year until he broke his
foot day 1. That automatically put him as the last QB. When he finally was
healthy again, the starting QB was playing well enough that there was no need to
switch things around.I guess Cam Newton is a terrible QB too because
he played Juco football...
If Thompson wins the job...Wilson at TE?6'7 235 lb.
pass catching TE.A senior year could easily put Wilson at 250
lbs.As the NFL continues to morph into a mobile QB/passing
league...NFL TE's block, but are increasingly looked at as
go-to-guys on plays that break down.If QB is not in the cards, TE
would be a great option for Wilson.
@Rose Bowl Call Yet?: Will do. Although I'm not sure you read any of my
posts. Maybe you should go back and do that and that comment may make as little
sense to you as it does to me. Good luck to whatever team you root for.
Travis Wilson is going to lead this team to a national champion and a real good
record and a rose bowl championship and a Heisman championship and more big boy
recognition and more prestegousness like we already have!Go Utes!
How about Conner Manning? He is more equipped to be the back up than Kendall
Thompson to me. Thompson is a set package guy. Manning is a pure passer but
given Christensen's offense, maybe not the best option.
Neither Wilson, or Thompson would be a third quarterback on another PAC 11
team.This doesn't speak well for being bowl eligible.Thompson couldn't make it in Oklahoma, and is equal to Wilson?5-7, or 4-8 will not cut it. this year.
Utefan4Lyf"Utah is a part of the conference of champions no
matter what the record."That's nice. Call us
when the Utah men win their first conference championship, let alone, national
championship, in any PAC 12 sport.
@mussingaround: It means just what I said. It isn't the Pac 10.2 or PAC 11.
It's the PAC 12. Utah is a part of the conference of champions no matter
what the record. Things will change, get better. If you don't believe that,
don't watch. I love my Utes. I'm proud of them. Go Utes!!!
Utefan4Lyf"While I understand the theory on that, the fact
remains that even if Utah never wins their division they are still part of the
Pac 12."Which means exactly what?The Utes
weren't invited to join the PAC 12 because of their perennially mediocre,
2-hit wonder football program.
@CougsandDawgs:While I understand the theory on that, the fact remains
that even if Utah never wins their division they are still part of the Pac 12.
They were invited, they accepted and no matter what the stats, they are not
going anywhere. As for your second point, I don't disagree. It takes
time. The team builds talent, settles in, starts winning those close games. It
doesn't happen overnight, but it will happen. I, for one, will support them
no matter what. We've already shown glimpses of what we can accomplish with
Stanford and a lot of close games. It's all about putting together a
complete game every week. We'll get there. Until then, I'll be happy
to watch them play Oregon, USC, Stanford and ASU in RES. Go Utes@scott:We'll watch the season this year. If we continue on a
downward trend and end below Colorado and CAL we can revisit. Until then the
names are still pointless.
@ Chris BYou all act as if he is crazy, I would have to agree that
seven wins is possible. The only team that will be on the lookout for the Utes
is Stanford because we pretty much knocked them out of the NC game. If Wilson
can stay healthy the entire year, I think 7 wins is definitely possible. I think
we can win all three non-conference games and the fact Wilson led us to those
close games against OSU and UCLA after throwing way too many INTs means he is
something special. Who else can throw six interceptions in a game and lose by
only seven points? Then the next week beat the No. 5 team in the nation?
That's right, only Travis Wilson.GO UTES!!
Utefan4Lyf:I can't speak for BYU fans because I don't use the
whole PAC11 or 10.2 stuff but my guess is that many BYU fans don't believe
Utah deserves their place in the PAC12. Colorado has a national championship and
a power conference championship on their resume. Cal has multiple PAC10
championships with the last being in 2006 (shared with USC). I
don't personally agree with other BYU fans on this point, but that may be
why they use the alternative PAC names instead of the PAC12. All Utah has to do
to end it is at least finish with a winning conference record, and compete for
at least an appearance in the PAC12 championship game.As for getting
old, when is it going to get old for Utah and it's fans to be happy about
playing Oregon, USC, UCLA, ASU, etc and not actually beating them? It's a
great schedule and exciting now, but it's still new. After 10 years of
being kicked around in the conference it won't be new anymore and will
definitely get old. What then?
@johnny triumphHave you ever played sports before? Competition is
excellent. I'm not saying this would happen, but saying TW is the starter
no matter how well the other QBs play would usually mean that TW stops trying so
hard because he is the automatic starter, and the other QBs don't try as
hard because they have no chance at starting. Competition fuels success and
reaching your limits. KT will keep playing hard to get the starting position
which will push TW to play harder to keep the starting job. I think this QB
competition is fantastic and am trying hard to keep a level head with all the
enthusiasm this year. The Utes are deep and I hope it shows this year.Plus he is still #1 on the depth chart.
Utefan4Lyf"Once they hit the bottom we can revisit..."With 4-5, 3-6, 2-7 finishes in their first three seasons, that's
certainly the direction they're trending, with 1-8, 0-9, the only steps
left in "achieving" rock bottom.
skywalkerPalo Alto, CAUtefan4Lyf4-5, 3-6, 2-7
prove that Utah is trending towards the bottom of the conference, so PAC 10.2 or
PAC 11 are coming closer to reality for the Utes every year.---------------Not really, Utah's average ranking over the
last three years is #9. Which means 3 teams have been worse on average. So Utah
on average has been part of the PAC 10.The reality is the team that
is 0-3 vs Utah and 2-5 vs PAC-12 over the same period would be worse.
After all that Travis has done for Utah's football program, it seems like a
bit of a slap in the face for him to be "trying out" for his starting QB
position, especially against a transfer who has only completed 4 of 13 passes
during his entire college career.Utah continues trying unorthodox
experiments - changing OCs every year, having co- or even tri-OCs, hiring one of
the youngest OCs in the country with absolutely no OC experience, converting
most QB recruits to other positions and leaving no depth at the most critical
position on the team, and running a two-QB offense, with QBs with vastly
different styles.As usual with Whittingham's offenses, this
seems like another act of desperation, but there's alot more riding on this
experiment, namely, Whittingham's job.
@skywalker: Once they hit the bottom we can revisit. Until then, there is no
basis for the saying. That is my point. Stats don't lie. They have not hit
bottom, therefore the saying is moot.
@MyPersp - "The only way it could possibly get any better than this is to
win!"Morale sinks when you keep losing. I coached a little
league baseball team this summer and even though we thought we stayed upbeat in
losses they sure took their toll. It was of no consolation to the 4th graders
that one team that beat them finished undefeated on the season. Wins matter to
the overall long-term health of the program, I sure hope the U can get some
quality wins or else the program will start to fail even more. Playing top
talent is one thing but you still need to win something!
It's sad to me that Wilson's been the starter yet he's in a fight
for the starting job. 23 career touchdown passes should have him in the
starting job, until you see 22 interceptions there as well.@chrisb -
You'll just say you're being optimistically realistic but really, 7
wins?I sure hope the U can do well this season but it's not
Utefan4Lyf4-5, 3-6, 2-7 prove that Utah is trending towards the
bottom of the conference, so PAC 10.2 or PAC 11 are coming closer to reality for
the Utes every year.Just like their basketball team, Utah's
football teamm may have to hit rock bottom and rebuild from the ground up with a
new coach before they become competitive with the bottom half of the PAC 12.
Utefan4Lyf - it will get old once you prove you belong. Probably going to take
a long, long time!
USAlover:"I think every PAC 12 team is hoping Travis Wilson wins
the job."Especially Stanford!Thanks for playing!!Go Utes!!
I get the smack talk between BYU and Utah fans, I've given enough myself,
but when is the "PAC 10.2 or PAC 11" comment going to get too old? After
all, even in our worst years we haven't been the bottom of the PAC. So
truly, last year you would have been talking about CAL and Colorado and based on
projections this year you would be talking about the same teams.
”You don’t ever want to go into a situation where you don’t
have a quarterback or a backup.” -- Christensen Yet, that is
exactly what Kyle did in Season 1 and 2 and in Season 3 he had no backup. Worse yet, in Season 2 & 3 he had no real OC.
christy"Travis Wilson is going to lead this team to a 7-5 record
and a great bowl game!"7-5?Name the 7 so we can
"mark them down"!On the bright side, we've heard that
the Utes are already picking up the Pace for the couch potato chip bowl.
USAloverSalt Lake City, UT"I think every PAC 11 team is
hoping Travis Wilson wins the job."Fine...the rest of the
conference underestimate the Utes. I tend to agree with several comments here,
this is going to be a fun year. The Utes will welcome some of the best talent
in the country to RES and play some of the best on the road. The only way it
could possibly get any better than this is to win!Go Utes!Go
I'm hoping Thomspon can seperate him self and lead this team. Although
Wilson looked good at times, his INT's killed Utah last year. I know he
wasn't the sole reason for the 7 loses, but the QB position is critical.
Travis Wilson is going to lead this team to a 7-5 record and a great bowl
This is the first time in a long time that I actually feel comfortable and at
ease with the QB situation. Even if, heaven forbid, Utah continues to get
plagued with an injured QB the team has a legitimate #2 that could step in and
lead the team. (Sigh of relief)Go Utes
I think every PAC 11 team is hoping Travis Wilson wins the job.
Great news! I can't wait for the season to start!