Maybe, hopefully, but not realistically, colleges will realize that there is a
breaking point, and at what cost. Perhaps we will, as a nation, remember that we
need those to fix roads, plumb a line, know how a refrigerator works and how to
fix it, and treat the trades as we treat degrees.
One hopes that, as a result of their experience, our young people will become
more discerning voters.
But, but Obama and the Democrat tell us the economy and the job market are great
and getting better each day! But hey, who are you going to believe, Obama or
your own lying eyes?
Mountanman is absolutely correct. The irrefutable fact is that the current
left-wing administration has actively depressed the economy, to the detriment
of an entire generation. The left-wing has been enormously
successful in convincing young people that, simply because they exist, they are
entitled to have a high standard of living. Indeed, that generation believes
they are entitled right now to the same standard of living that it took prior
generations decades of hard work to achieve. The creation of
discontent is a deliberate ploy by the left-wing which is designed to create
dependence on government, with the subsequent votes. Unfortunately, this ploy
has succeeded with far too many.
I know Mr Samuelson is aware of the birth dearth epidemic (sub-replacement birth
rates in the U.S., and around most of the world now), since he's written an
article or more on that subject.When I went to college, from the mid
to latter 1970's, males far outnumbered female college students overall.
Then, gradually, over time, the ratio reversed, so that now, overall, women far
outnumber men in both attending and graduating college. As a guy with six
sisters, and seven daughters, I think that's fantastic for females.
However, what may be good for a gender, and an individual, may, overall, become
bad for all.Women who are in college are less likely to have
children. And they often delay marriage and/or child bearing until after
they've finished. But, that is true of men, too. Individually, college
makes us smart; collectively? Not so much.Having a good education,
good thinking and other skills can help us get a job. But, since birthrates have
plummeted, where do we expect to find customers? The economy is bust, because of
a baby bust. We don't have enough babies, cause we're in school too
"The children of the Great Depression, who might have expected continuous
want and insecurity, generally enjoyed prosperous lives."Those
who survived World War II, at least. I think that puts economic struggles into
a different light, doesn't it?
@mountainman and john charity spring. I find it hypocritical that republicans
like yourselves proclaim values like personal responsibility and not blaming
others for your own misfortune, but then blame democrats for everything. At least be critical of both parties because they each deserve blame
since we have a divided congress.
Another part of the problem is the massive amount of entitlement many of our
teens to twenty something's possess. They have been poorly educated, have
little real work experience and arrive on the job expecting to be promoted and
become the hero of the company in three weeks. When they are rebuffed in their
attempts to become instant millionaires , often because they can't accept
normal, on the job critique or they show up late, they have no problem returning
to the nest, where niceness nod sweetness rule the day and laundry is done by
@Mountanman"the job market are great and getting better each
day!"We've just gained over 200k jobs for the 6th month in
a row, the first time that's happened since the Clinton administration.
Contemporary job prospects are the result of the bargain made in the late
seventies and eighties by the neutral voter class - those who possess very
little interest in most political topics but are swayed by identity topics like
abortion. The two parties were synthetically separated by hot button issues in
order to sow chaos among otherwise agreeable voters resulting in less coverage
and attention to the damaging policies being implemented by politicians that
were cozying up to big business. The low intelligence "moral" voters
literally voted away their children's futures for a sense of superiority
over those who faced different challenges in life. And now we have to hear them
bray about the fault lying with our first ethnic president.
I was born in 1977. I have lived in Utah all my life. I am a skilled laborer.
I have a garbage degree in History and Sociology. However I'm self
trained, and have never had an issue getting a job.The bottom line
is this: If you have skills, and you can use them, you will not have an issue
finding employment. If you have no skills, then you should work on getting
some. That may require you to take a lower paid position where you acquire
skills that build to new skills. Many people can't start at the bottom and
work their way up, they need to learn to do this.
Shaun, to a great degree I agree with you. However, I also agree, to some
extent, with MountainMan. The flood of illegal immigrants seems to have been
encouraged and even somewhat planned for, months ago, by the Obama
administration. The only reason Obama hasn't been, and won't likely
been impeached, is because Republicans don't have a super majority in the
Senate to convict him, if impeached (Clinton's impeachment taught us that
lesson).But, we also need to quit just blaming politicians and
parties, and as "the people", also take our share of the blame, which is
ample.For every 200 'baby boomers', we gave birth to a
mere 170 babies total. 213 is the number we needed just for exact replacement,
which would allow for no growth in the population. And for an economy to grow,
the population must grow!The "baby boomers" (babies born
1946 - 1964), are a 20th century anomaly. They are more defined by the
"bookends" than by the "books". That is, 2 major birth dearths,
1910-1945, and the 1970's to now, make the long skinny pig in the python
look so fat.
I can't recall the last time I read a positive economic report. Jobs are
scarce and unemployment continues to be high and the Obama reign of terror is
going on 7 years now. The months and years roll on and nothing changes. You
don't hear the outcry from the Obama voters because they are mostly on
welfare and government free-bees plus they don't work. It should be clear
to even the casual observer that Obama-nomics has been a dismal failure.
The Silent generation, the sons and daughters of the Greatest generation, were
given a world where they were the only remaining economic power, jobs were
plentiful, and their houses quadrupled in price every ten years. It was a time
of apprenticeships and jobs and hope. They had entitlements that included the GI
Bill, relied on their union for wage increases, and then received pensions, SS,
and Medicare at 62 when they retired.Now the Silent generation tells
us how the Millennials, Gen Xers, and Baby Boomers have it so good and rely on
handouts. No generation had it as easy and received as much as the Silent
generation. And now they are all joining the Tea Party and telling us how hard
they worked to get what they have, and the rest of us have it too easy.Let's be honest: The Silent generation will leave the rest of us where
their parent's started, with nothing but economic depression and a
generation of ill-conceived wars for profit...their profit. When "xert"
from Santa Monica says "Another part of the problem is the massive amount of
entitlements...", he should really be talking about the Silent generation.
Recently, while I was working in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as
they returned home from walking their dog. During the conversation, I asked
their 12 year old daughter what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she
wanted to be President some day.Both of her parents - liberal
Democrats - were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were President what
would be the first thing you would do?"She replied,
"I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parents
beamed with pride! "But you don't have to wait until
you're President to do that!" I told her."What do you
mean?" she replied. "You can come over to my house and mow
the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can
you can give the homeless guy the $50 to use toward food and a new
house."She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked
me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come
over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"I said,
"Welcome to the Republican Party."
"I can't recall the last time I read a positive economic report"Going out on a limb here and guessing that you spend no time reading
actual economic reports and most likely are ill-equipped to analyze them. But
perhaps you are referring to the lack of positivity from Fox news coverage of
the economy. Pretty much the same thing, cough.
To Thid Barker, thanks for the excellent analogy. It was fun reading your
comments.Keep up the good work.
The generation who are still at home looking at fading Obama posters on their
@shaunMountanman was not blaming Demos. He stated that Obama and the
Dems have painted a very different picture than the one reported. @SchneeStop drinking the Kool-Aid. 200k jobs is lower than the 300k jobs
need to jump start the economy. Stop believing the political hype and look at
what economists are saying. Many of the 200k jobs are still part-time. Part-time
is not going to help the economy. It doesn't matter if it is Reps. or Dems.
they are going to use the statistics that benefit them. Their is an old saying
"Statistics don't lie and liars use statistics. Dems and Reps. are not
doing the job they are paid to do. The don't even understand the word
compromise. This report paints a true picture. I now many 18-34 and
even older than are under-employed or are having difficulty find sold full time
employment. We need to throw out all the Dems and Reps. and start
anew. We need representatives that will truly work for us, not their party or
@mightyhunterhaha"Stop believing the political hype and look at what
economists are saying."The economists told me that what we did
the past 6 months hadn't been done since 1998. I didn't say that the
economy was great, I was addressing those who would claim that the job market
isn't improving. Doesn't mean there isn't more work to be done.
Trap.... what an interesting way to put things. It really only started in
earnest after WW1, then accelerated after WW II that people moved away from
home. Before that time, families stayed together for generations. In the same
household often you had 3 generations living either on the same land, or even in
the same home. If they were not in the same home, fathers would carve out a
piece of the family land and the new young family would build their home there.
My Great Grandfather lived on 13th East - and when his daughters were married,
they each were carved off a piece of the family land. One ended up living a lot
with her husband on 13th East - the other's lot was on Yale Avenue. Today, that is considered at "trap". I know times, and
situations have changed... but if you look at things as part of a longer time
span, intergenerational families is how things have been for centuries, and this
"moving away" thing is a relatively new phenomena. It happened, but it
was more the exception than the rule.
Student debt prevents many of the younger generation from getting the healthy
start in life. It's tragic that college kids are taking out loans without
thought of how they will pay them off. Several of my children took out
reasonable loans, did not use the money for anything but school (no trips over
spring break, or junkets to Europe to "find themselves," for example),
and had them paid off 18 months after graduation. Then they were able to think
about buying a house, starting a family, and so on. They are an anomaly but it
doesn't have to be that way. Students may not get the job of their dreams
right out of college, but they can find something and work towards getting out
of debt. But that's too hard. Easier to move in with mom and dad for the
free rent with all services included.
There are a lot of high school and collage students graduating every year. not
to many people are able to retire from their job. I think failure to launch is
is the effect of the goverment steeling ssi.
Doesn't all happiness come from marriage? Where is the discussion and
debate on why so many millennial daughters resort to moving back home? Because
the next step after graduation is to marry and have kids and when the millennial
sons have no motivation to date, court and marry a young woman...