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Robert Bennett: It could be the best of times

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  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 6, 2014 11:59 a.m.

    @BH

    Right. Death rates are also often expressed within age categories: infant mortality, childhood mortality, teen mortality, and so forth. This means that, in times when people are living longer, death rates are down in earlier age categories, but they are up in later age categories (expressing the fact that more people are now dying at an older age.) There is never a time when all the death rates are falling together. The aggregate still adds up to 100%.

    That's what made me chuckle about Bailout Bob's sentence.

  • BH Tremonton, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 9:47 p.m.

    @Nate says "I thought the death rate was still 100%." I'm quite sure we are all aware that 100% of us all die . . . eventually.

    But, that is not what is (almost, apparently) universally understood as a death rate. Death rate is the ratio of number of deaths per a given amount of population per a given span of time, most often expressed in deaths/thousand people/year.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 5, 2014 10:54 a.m.

    "Check out Glenn Beck's recent public apology for what he said while on Fox."

    I was actually really impressed with his change of heart. He said his change has cost him viewership, but it was the right thing to do. It is very good and right to debate differing viewpoints, but one crosses the line when they start branding others as lessor because of their views. You can disagree on policy, and still respect the person. Something a growing crowd seems to not be willing to understand.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Chihuahua, 00
    Aug. 5, 2014 10:47 a.m.

    LDS Liberal

    "BTW --
    People caught trashing talking America, our Nation, our Government, our President, and our Fellow Friends and Neighbors were also considered traitors back then..."

    So your saying that the first amendment really isn't applicable? It's just there for the sake of being there? I don't think "traitor" means what you think it means. Especially to an Authoritarian.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 9:30 a.m.

    Check out Glenn Beck's recent public apology for what he said while on Fox.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 5, 2014 12:07 a.m.

    Wonder:

    If you have never heard anyone on the left acting like an alarmist, I don't know what to tell you. You must not read any of the posters on this forum or listen to any news.

    Yes, there are alarmists on the right and you seem to find them very easily, but there are just as many or more on the left which you refuse to acknowledge. And they are not just "fringe groups" either. They are anchors on the evening news, Senators, Representatives, and members of the Obama administration.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    Aug. 4, 2014 11:58 p.m.

    "The population increase has not come from rising birth rates...but falling death rates."

    The population increase has come from immigration, illegal and otherwise.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:12 p.m.

    @LDS Liberal "People caught trashing talking America, our Nation, our Government, our President, and our Fellow Friends and Neighbors were also considered traitors back then..."

    You people need to get your story straight. Only a few years ago dissent was the highest form of patriotism.

  • ordinaryfolks seattle, WA
    Aug. 4, 2014 4:30 p.m.

    J C Spring

    I think that this generation fails to respect American values in that we deny certain people life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We deny these people that freedom because our particular reading of sacred texts. And these same people conveniently forget we are not a theocracy.

    Right comment perhaps, but the wrong bogeyman.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 4:03 p.m.

    patriot
    Cedar Hills, UT

    Today's America would have lost to Adolf Hitler and imperial Japan. No question. Thank goodness we had our grandfathers and grandmothers fighting that war!!! I doubt most Americans today know anything about WWII...at least the Obama crowd certainly don't.

    2:57 p.m. Aug. 4, 2014

    ======

    I served.
    But for some reasons --
    Tea-Publicans can only remember 2 conflits...

    The Revolutionary War of 1776,
    and WWII of 1940.

    BTW --
    People caught trashing talking America, our Nation, our Government, our President, and our Fellow Friends and Neighbors were also considered traitors back then...

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 3:34 p.m.

    @patriot
    "Today's America is not even a shadow of 1940 America as far as patriotism+hard work+united country. "

    1940 America was still racially segregated. More things go into making a country great than how strongly unified they can be in hating and beating up an enemy.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 2:57 p.m.

    WWII saw the GREATEST generation of Americans ever in our history. Today's America is not even a shadow of 1940 America as far as patriotism+hard work+united country. Today's America is closer to Socialist Europe than 1940 America and that is due to the sharpe decline of the American people - their values + morals + belief in God + patriotism + hard work and independent spirit. All of these former attributes are no long part of the majority...sadly for our childrens sake.

    Today's America would have lost to Adolf Hitler and imperial Japan. No question. Thank goodness we had our grandfathers and grandmothers fighting that war!!! I doubt most Americans today know anything about WWII...at least the Obama crowd certainly don't.

  • intervention slc, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    @john charity springs
    "Lliberal government policies have created a whole generation of people who no longer respect traditional American values. This has led to increased rates of all sorts of social ills."
    Teenage pregnancy and crime rates are among the lowest the have been for the past fifty years and we continue the long march toward true equality, I am sorry you find these to be "social ills" but for the rest of us this is hardly the worst of timers.

  • E Sam Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 1:55 p.m.

    Wise words from a genuine statesman.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 1:22 p.m.

    @Joe Capitalist -- I've never personally heard anyone say any of the things you've mentioned. I've heard probably hundreds of people I associate with regularly say that the US is going to heck in a hand basket and they are terrified of their future because poor people are now getting healthcare, rich people are paying too much in taxes, and Obama thinks he's a king because he has signed executive orders (totally unaware, I'm sure, that he's signed fewer than Bush, Clinton, etc.) So while there may be some nut in some obscure internet author who really thinks the world will end (as opposed to certain areas becoming very expensive and/or unhealthful to inhabit) because of global warming, those people are few and far between compared to the daily moaning I read/hear from the silly far right. Same with the other "leftist" issues you mention, which I would address, but I'm out of space.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 11:40 a.m.

    Funny how many posters here think the only alarmists are right-wing. While there is a lot of anxiety on the right caused by our current decline due to progressive policies, there are plenty of left-wing alarmists out there as well.

    Global warming alarmists tell us the world is going to be uninhabitable soon. Obamacare alarmists tell us that unless we get universal single-payer healthcare, we are doomed. Gun control alarmists tell us that unless we get strict gun control laws, it is going to be the wild west all over again. Immigration alarmist tell us without "comprehensive reform" (i.e. amnesty) all the poor children are going to die. Etc., etc..

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Aug. 4, 2014 11:30 a.m.

    Bob, you can't be right. Yesterday in Sunday School everybody agreed this is by far the worst time in world history. And it's Obama's fault.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    I'm with Mr. Bennett. There are some problems now, but when haven't there been? There are always economic ups and downs. There are always places with wars and serious health issues. Let's do what we can to help others through these issues, but there is no more need for pessimism now than at any other time in history. Tea partiers are just afraid of their own shadows, and they seem to be the ones who are sure the U.S.A. is going to fall tomorrow. Because some poor people are getting health care now. And the rich have to suffer paying some of the lowest taxes in decades. And Obama has signed fewer executive orders than any of the past several presidents, but still he thinks he's a "king". Grow a backbone, people, grow a backbone.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    Atlas: what "credible" economist saw the last bust coming? Most of them didn't. A few did. Those same few are warning us of this next one.

  • Atlas Smashed Santa Monica, CA
    Aug. 4, 2014 10:05 a.m.

    Wait pump the breaks.

    Upcoming crash?

    Huh?

    Which credible economist were an upcoming crash? If we know it's coming then can't we prevent it?

    I agree with Howard Beal, take a chill pill people. Relax. The sun will come up tomorrow. Let's stop trying to manufacture crisis after crisis. Life doesn't have to be so negative.

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:51 a.m.

    Who cares about the Ukraine and Israel?

    None of these are threats to the USA.

    There will always be "bad guys" in the world. We need to come to the realization that we can't police the entire world. Let's focus on our own country for a change, shall we?

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:50 a.m.

    Finger-pointing on this comment board is predictable: it's the fault of Obama/Bush/Democrats/Republicans/Tea Party, etc., etc. My own view is that this upcoming crash will have been a decades-long and bi-partisan effort of current and past congresses, White House administrations, the Federal Reserve and other central banking organizations world-wide and others not mentioned.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:37 a.m.

    It appears that John Charity Spring has found some quote that he's going to quote on every post on every topic imaginable.

    But I would bet that times were tougher generally in Civil War years or The Great Depression or even the malaise of the late 1970's.

    The sun will come up tomorrow...

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:36 a.m.

    Bennett is spot on here. It isn't that bad things are happening more, but that we have exposure to more bad things, faster than ever. It isn't that groups like ISIS are new, its just that we now hear about their activities in real time. It isn't that we haven't had plagues like we've had in Africa before - its just that in today's 24x7 news cycle we hear about it.

    In my work I travel to the most hidden corners of the earth, working with people from a broad spectrum of faiths and nationalities. And when you sit down with these people over dinner, you find that we have far more in common than separates us. And the fact that bad actors in the world can't do their evil deeds in the dark anymore - that the whole world can see what they are doing - gives one encouragement that these acts will no longer be tolerated just because we don't see them.

    I am optimistic...

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:33 a.m.

    The tea party had the economy trashed and gold at 5,000 by now with ten percent employment. Its gloomy for the tea party.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 9:15 a.m.

    "We're in a very similar environment today. My money is poised for another crash, but this one worse than any of them. Other than that, things are swell."

    We could institute necessary regulation that would prevent this from happening.

    But sadly, tea party folks have prevented this from being accomplished. The free market will take care of everything, right repubs?

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 8:48 a.m.

    I'm not so confident that Mr. Bennett can predict the future any better than the rest of us. Consider the optimism that existed prior to the 1929 stock market crash and the Great Depression. Likewise, go back and look at the pervasive optimistic attitudes prevailing before the dotcom and real estate busts. We're in a very similar environment today. My money is poised for another crash, but this one worse than any of them. Other than that, things are swell.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 8:44 a.m.

    However. the environment globally is a major source of anxiety, and such is reality based. As I have commented elsewhere huge methane deposits are about to be released in the Arctic occasioned by the warming Arctic Ocean due to CO2 emissions. This would create a global catastrophe threatening all life including human life (because methane is the ultimate global warming gas). Perhaps Senator Bennett would look into this matter.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 8:29 a.m.

    @Mark from Montana
    Without elaborating we have to assume you are in a personal crisis, which of course my condolences to you. But the article was really highlighting the state of the Nation and World. This article addresses the "sky is falling" crowd and it does a good job.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 7:27 a.m.

    This absolutely should be the best of times. However, liberal government policies have created a whole generation of people who no longer respect traditional American values. This has led to increased rates of all sorts of social ills. As Abraham Lincoln famously stated "Whenever the vicious portion of the population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this government cannot last."

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 7:00 a.m.

    @Bailout Bob "The population increase has not come from rising birth rates...but falling death rates."

    I thought the death rate was still 100%.

  • Salt Murray, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 6:55 a.m.

    Bravo & well said - I believe however, that it was Norman Borlaug, not Berlaug. Thank you for the hopeful reminder that there is no need to hit the panic button yet . . .

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 6:54 a.m.

    I am sure Mr. Bennett could go on in more detail. This may be the most optimistic time to live in the world.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Aug. 4, 2014 5:32 a.m.

    You are way over thinking this Mr Bennett.

    The people that say “These are the worst times we’ve ever had!” along with, “Our future is doomed.”
    don't mean it literally.

    They are merely expressing their dislike for Democrats in general and Obama specifically.

  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    Aug. 4, 2014 5:19 a.m.

    For many it is a matter of perspective. The closer to home the struggle, the more important it is. For me and my family, there have been few times worse. Doesn't mean the world is ending or great calamities are coming for the entire planet, but for us, these are the worst of times. It doesn't matter if India feeds itself, or the death rate has dropped. Those are too far removed for them to impact us. Our struggles are close to home and impact our view of life.