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Published: Saturday, Aug. 2 2014 11:05 p.m. MDT

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Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

Wait a minute...

Chris B has said over and over that Whit is NOT on the hot seat! Can he be wrong? He's usually right about everything.
According to this article Whit is up against the wall, but I thought Utah was NOT the doormat of the PAC 10?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Idaho State will be a challenge.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

First option is impossible - Utah can't schedule 6 games with BYU in a season.

Second option is impossible - Schedule as difficult season as BYU does. (As a member of the second rated conference in the country we must play 9 games and with 6 teams ranked in the top 25 preseason poll we must play multiple games against top 25 teams.)

Third option is how we are going to do it - regain the "swagger"! In my opinion this years team is deepper in depth than ever before. With many positions stronger than last year. And last year was ever so close. (I know - woulda, coulda, shouda!)

Regardless of whether you are a believer or doubter my advice to you is bet on Utah to cover the spread!

FatMan86
West Jordan, UT

Here is how you do it: start caring about getting PAC 12 wins, a lot of them. Stop caring about one upping BYU who is officially irrelevant and not on your schedule.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

A losing record should not be the only determining factor in firing, or retaining, whittingham in my opinion. If it is another 5-7 year for instance, but the losses are mostly close could have gone either way types, and the team itself was very competitive I think he will, and should, be retained.

If it is 4 wins or less it will be pretty hard to justify keeping him on, especially if they are blown out in more than a couple of games, and those blowout losses need to be to oregon, stanford, usc, or ucla, no one else.

But he should be worried, the schedule is tough, just as utah "fans" are constantly whining about, and he must beat fresno which in my opinion is not the cake walk utah "fans" seem to think it is. Slapping a pac12 next to their name doesn't all of a sudden make utah any better than they ever were, in fact fresno is a team I think is on par with utah far more than utah is on par with the oregon, ucla, stanford, and usc's of the world.

DrUte
Woods Cross, UT

(Yawn) Another DN article projecting the demise of the U and Coach Whitt.....

Could just as easily say this particular author could be retired in St George before Coach Whitt gets there, & who's to say that would not be the case? Haven't played a down yet, haven't had a second tick off the clock, but the Utes are somehow already at 4th and 20 and its time to "save Whittingham".

Au contraire, the U (and Coach Whitt) are just fine, just had a nice infusion of new talent for this season, now looking forward to kicking things off with an improved roster, new coaching in several key areas, and the best brain trust in the state --- Whitt, Sitake, Erickson, and Christensen.

Bottom Line: It's sooooo great to be a Ute!!! :)

Max-was-right
springville, UT

3-8 this year and Whitt is coaching BYU's defense next year.

mark it down

Fashion Police
Olympus Cove, Utah

Idaho State = win
Fresno State = tossup
at Michigan = LOSS
Washington State = tossup
at UCLA = LOSS
at Oregon State = LOSS
Southern Cal = LOSS
at Arizona State = LOSS
Oregon = LOSS
at Stanford = LOSS
Arizona = tossup
at Colorado = tossup

With 7 built in losses and 4 tossups, the Utes will have to sweep their tossups, and pull off an upset to be bowl eligible.

Possible, but not likely.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@drute

So give us the names and dates of all the other articles the Dnews has published about the demise of whittingham and utah? I read just about every day and I don't remember very many of them, if any at all.

I'd also like to know why you think some motley assortment of walkons and late signees no one else seemed to want is some huge "infusion of new talent"? If they were all that great wouldn't they have already been signed by someone? For that matter why didn't utah sign them in the first place back on signing day? You have easily established yourself as one of the more delusional utah "fans" that posts on these boards.

spokaloo
White Salmon, WA

I think the break in not playing each other will be good for both utah and byu. Byu can take a break from the pressure of not living up to expectations when playing utah (lost 9 of 12, favored in 10 of the games). Utah cannot put their eggs in one basket and focus on playing well in a game other than Byu (with few exceptions).

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I suspect Utah is going to be better than most people give them credit for. Everyone looks to last year. That was then - this is now. Don't count out the Utes.

IRS Agent
PROVO, UT

@DuckHunter

So it's not a matter of whether they win or lose, but a matter of "how" they lose. The fact that they will lose is a given. Is that correct?

Irrelevant
Provo, UT

@ drute

While I didn't really understand the context of your comment about STG, maybe I could help clarify the meaning behind this article. CFB has a "what have you done for me lately" mentality. BYU and now USU have created a brand of winning on the national stage as well as participating in bowl games around the country (USU will be going for their 4th consecutive bowl appearance while BYU is shooting for their 10th). One has to think that if the head coach wasn't getting it "done" and posting enough wins (6) in order to participate in a postseason bowl then they would for surely be canned (ask Crowton).

I guess what the author is implying is that if the U is a step above all other programs in the state, why have they retained their head coach who hasn't been to a bowl game since 2011?

Now I know what you're thinking, "well he had to handle the transition of entering the Pac10" that's great and all but why not let him step down, and bring in a coach who can win on the big stage regularly.

2011 was so long ago.

Go BYU

theDailyObserver
Salt Lake City, Utah

I really can't wait for the season to start. At the very least, fans of the 3 big teams in Utah will have something else to speculate on. byu will have a good season because they are a weak team playing against even weaker competition. Utah State will likely have a good season in their relatively new conference. If Utah has a good season, it will be because they triumphed when the team's soul was tested week in and week out. Character in the face of a true and consistent challenge is more intriguing to me, which makes only one of the teams in Utah truly worth watching.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Duckhunter

"..the (Utah) schedule is tough, just as utah "fans" are constantly whining about..."

In truth, Utah fans are ecstatic about the tough schedule. That is why for every season of PAC-12 membership RES is sold out. (98+% renewal rate!) Someday I hope you will experience the thrill of playing a schedule including teams like Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Arizona State, Oregon State (all listed in the pre-season top 25 list), Arizona, Washington State, Colorado, Michigan, Fresno State, and, yes, Idaho State. (three of the latter were in the receiving votes for the top 25 also.) And then to do this year after year. Look ahead at how excited Y fans are that in the next 5 or so years you will have Arizona, USC, and Stanford come to Provo. Well, it will never get old for this Utah fan to have all the PAC-12 teams come to RES at least once every two years!
When Utah fans (in general) talk about the difficulty of their schedule it is with pride and to provide some background as to why we went from two undefeated seasons this past 10 years to losing seasons, so far, in the PAC-12.
2014 - what a year for football!

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

spokaloo

"I think the break in not playing each other will be good for both utah and BYU."

You're half right. It'll be good for Utah because the Utes will at least have a fighting chance versus Fresno State; Taysom Hill and company would have mopped RES field with the Utes this season.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

We would be 10 wins on Utah's schedule. Easily.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Fair enough Duckhunter. I don't think Fresno is a cake walk either. Aren't they breaking in a new QB though. And the game is at RES. If Fresno is projected to win their conference, then what does that say about Boise State? They have kept a smoke screen record recently with their own bad schedule. Houston was a barn burner last year but BYU still looked superior to them to me. The game is in Provo this year. Now that QB could get hot. And BYU has traditionally struggled with QBs that can stretch the field. That said, I think BYU has a really good secondary for a change. Injuries were costly at that position last year. To me the only challenging games on BYU's schedule the whole year are Texas and USU. BYU has USU's number and Texas is in rebuild mode. They are the one team that is physically superior to BYU on their schedule but BYU will be fresh for them. Now if BYU played P5 teams week in and week out then BYU would find out what TCU and Utah are experiencing right now. And that is having a losing record.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

To go bowling, Utah needs to beat Idaho State, Fresno State, Washington State, Oregon State, and Colorado. That is 5 wins (Oregon State on the road is the biggest iffy game with Sean Mannion). I think Utah gets these 5 games though. From there Utah will need to win one more game unless they lose to Oregon State. I like the opportunity to beat Arizona and USC at home. Winning both of those is reaching somewhat. But I do see Utah getting 6 wins and I wouldn't be shocked if they win 7 games (surprising someone along the way).

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

If Gionni Paul and Jacoby Hale recover healthwise then that would be a huge boost to the defense. Utah's offense will be better this year. I think Michigan is overrated and a possible win for Utah would be sweet. That game is in Ann Arbor though. But with the schedule during the first month being lighter, Utah could gain some confidence and momentum. The swag factor is huge. I look for Utah to get that back this year. The chemistry is good and the depth is better. Whitt can coach but he has his flaws like Bronco (choosing the right QB has been a problem for both). If Wilson can stay healthy (I fear he won't ala the repeated Wynn failure experiment), then Utah could start to roll with Christensen.

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