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Published: Friday, Aug. 1 2014 9:50 p.m. MDT

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BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

BYU is always a class act in handling these situations. They care more about the development of these young men as future husbands, fathers, and leaders in the community one day after football is all over than anything else. I am sure Williams will mature and grow through this experience. This had to be a really tough call by Bronco!

Go Cougars!

Uncle festis
Pasadena, CA

Gunther from 1320kfan said that jamal williams is one of the best athletes on the planet, Gunther has now found his way to the unlistenable category of sports radio along with David james and David Locke.

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

We all make mistakes and have to pay the price of those mistakes either now or later. Jamaal seems to have a great attitude and hopefully he can keep his promise that it will never happen again. Good luck to him!

Go Cougars

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

Some will say that the suspension of Williams is unjustified. But as Abraham Lincoln famously stated, "Whenever the vicious portion of the population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this government cannot last."

This quote sums up the Williams situation perfectly. BYU cannot allow flagrant honor code violations to go unpunished. The team will be perfectly fine, with running backs who are just as good as Williams getting a chance to shine.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

I love Williams... I love his openness, and I love his candor (not to mention the unbelievable talent that this guy has on the field... In 2 years he will be playing on Sunday, mark it down)... Most of all however, I love how objective he his...

They say that the measure of the worth of a man is not the fact that he has been knocked down, but if and how he picks himself up and continues on... This guy is a leader, I see it in everything he says and in how his fellow players react to him...

I hate the fact that he won't be playing in that first game, I wish it wasn't the case almost as much as I am sure he wishes... But I can tell this is going to be a very special season for Williams... He has skill and he has class, a wicked combination, and because of that I am certain that I will be following the Football news on him long after he leaves Cougarville.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

I said it the other day, these things are going to happen with people (young and old). One could and will compare or give their opinion on what BYU does in comparison to other universities when dealing with these situations. But casting stones at a player or making a judgment there is something I don't condone.

We all know BYU has the honor code and things work different at BYU. I am okay with that. What gets my attention is the honor code office and how similar situations vary in penalty. It's not an issue to me how BYU once handled these things and how they do now because I can get over the changes in time with the turnover of university presidents, new head coaches, and new attitudes towards problems in time and place. But although there are individual spiritual considerations, it's hard to look at the vast differences in so called punishment from student to student and player to player and put great stock into the honor code decision makers. Bronco seems to have changed a little (more lenient), or his voice has more weight in communication with the honor code office.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

A universities self interests are always the focus for criticism in dealing with players in trouble. BYU has often escaped this criticism when in the past profile players HAVE paid an obvious cost for a mistake or sin despite the obvious on field loss to the team because of BYU's suspended player. Although to me, there have also been some curious decisions over the last 35 years but I won't venture there.

What we do see in college sports as a whole though, is universities often going light on penalty in favor of their subjective interests. How often do we hear that "the university is handling things internally" comment? For BYU this makes sense. The honor code is an internal thing. But then again, BYU does turn things over to law enforcement when laws are broken outside of moral type honer code situations that aren't an illegal type matter. But for other schools that deal with laws being broken by turning away from that societal call for action/penalty and in opposition just say "we are handling it internally" is like telling the bank robbers accusers that Mom will handle Billy at home instead.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Moving on, Jamaal Williams seems to me from the outside looking in to be a good fit in Provo, and not just on the field either. He looks like he fits in down south in Provo to me and brings diversity to the school. So this is unfortunate for him a little, but the one game suspension will pass and BYU should handle UConn regardless. The team has to be more than Jamaal Williams if they are going to run the table this year.

Uconn is awful. Williams will be back @ Texas and that might work in BYU's favor. I wouldn't show my offensive playbook against UConn as BYU could just toss them around. Texas will be looking to focus on Hill after BYU gave them the beat down last year. Williams could run wild. But beware, BYU has a history under Bronco of starting off the season slow.

Utah beat BYU with Jon White IV missing the rivalry game his senior year and Jon Hayes starting at QB. Thus BYU should handle the lowly Huskies. I took my shot and made myself a target. Are there any duck hunters nearby? I better take cover.

UCONN
Storrs, CT

Bummer. Good player and I hoped to see him play live this year in Hartford. However, a little relieved the Huskies have one less problem to worry about in their uphill battle to restore the football program.

Good luck, Cougs. Go Huskies and Go Utes!

sammyg
Springville, UT

That took guts. We will look forward to that Texas game and Williams return.

And buried in the explosive headline we now know that Harvey Langi is a Cougar. Well, well, well... isn't it interesting how things come about. Three + weeks of absolute silence on the subject and here's Harvey at practice on Friday.

Hmmm, he's not having to sit for a year? Obviously Vai had a few things correct in his story.

"As far as I'm concerned, he's a Ute," he told me. "I'm not releasing him."

Sorry Whit and Ute fans... as I said, in the absence of an LOI and two years later, he's fair game. No loophole here.

Welcome Harvey!

Old But Not Stupid
Moorpark, CA

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

I agree that he should have known that because of his celebrity any mis-step will be noted and duly reported. It was special that he self-reported his suspension to the press.

Furthermore,yes "The team will be perfectly fine,...." But the clause "... with running backs who are just as good as Williams getting a chance to shine." makes me wonder if you've been watching these young men.

cougar76
Raleigh, NC

Bit of a stretch putting Jamaal in the same category as the anarchists Mr. Lincoln was talking about. He is just a kid learning the lessons of life. He is blessed to have role models like his mother, his coaches and team mates to help him learn those lessons.

Jefe-Ute
Richmond, VA

Too bad about Williams. Punishment is fair in my eyes. Hopefully he learns from the mistake and moves on, focuses on football and gets a chance at the NFL.

As for Langi, that's a real shame. Real shame. With 2 projected starters out at LB, he had a real chance to make a difference in the U's defense. Utah fans can be bitter and say we don't need him, but I hate to let a player go after only 1 season, TF at that. I hope he succeeds. He could have been playing against the best of the best, and now he will be playing Savannah State.

Aurelius maximus
Berryville, VA

"Williams will be back @ Texas and that might work in BYU's favor. I wouldn't show my offensive playbook against UConn as BYU could just toss them around. Texas will be looking to focus on Hill after BYU gave them the beat down last year. Williams could run wild. But beware, BYU has a history under Bronco of starting off the season slow."

I was thinking the same thing. He will be ready to Run all over the Texans.

runnerguy50
Virginia Beach, Va

Would a regular student have been kicked out of BYU for the same infraction ?

idablu
Idaho Falls, ID

I like the way this was handled. BYU was ready to say "one game suspension for breaking team rules," and Jamaal came out on his own to spill the beans, essentially sparing Bronco a bunch of annoying questions. Jamaal is making it clear to the public that he is owning it. My respect for him just went up a couple notches.

cougala
Akron, OH

Jamaal is already a star and shows it in more ways than on the field. Go Cougars!

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

I wold like to inform Mr Old But Not that I have been carefully watching, in person. There are at least three running backs who are as good, if not better than Williams. The stats are deceiving because Williams gets 90% of the carries. If any of the others got that volume of carries, they would have just as many yards. For instance, Honestly had more yards on fewer carries in the Idaho State game

By the way, Lincoln was not talking about anarchy. He was talking about the general citizenry run amok.

Ken
Sandy, UT

Even as a Utah fan, I admit I appreciate how Bronco is one of the few coaches who backs up his talk in terms of holdings kids to a high standard.

Frankly, I wish all coaches were more like Bronco in this. The fact that other schools don't have an honor code has nothing to do with it - all program should demand a high standard for those who represent their schools and their communities.

As a fan of the university of Utah, those kids not only represent my school, but also my state and also to a large extent the LDS church as well. I travel a lot for work and nearly every time I mention I'm from Utah, I'm eventually asked whether I'm Mormon or not. Point is, people outside of Utah associate Utah with Mormons, so in a very real sense what happens at the University of Utah will be construed(either positively or negatively by many in the country to being from Mormons.

Every coach in the nation would say underage drinking is serious if they were asked.

Very few back up their talk

Hat is off to Bronco for backing it up.

Osgrath
Provo, UT

The answer to RunnerGuy's question is simple: no.

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