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Published: Monday, Aug. 4 2014 8:20 a.m. MDT

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Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Women certainly aren't breaking the stained glass, or any other glass ceiling around here. It appears that it will never happen.

Cedar Hills, UT

In some cases there is no ceiling to break, such as in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints where no priesthood blessings are denied to either gender.

Leesburg, VA

@Red Corvette,

Ask the millions of other Mormon women who don't have a problem with the Church's current doctrine and policy about whether they think there's a glass ceiling.

You can't keep everyone happy all the time no matter what you do. A problem doesn't necessarily exist just because a very tiny minority say they want a change.


Once upon a time, women could lay on hands and bless the sick. Women also ran powerful church auxiliary organizations, managing large budgets and deciding on projects. They even published their own magazines. What happened? Correlation. And why can't a woman be a ward clerk? Modern LDS women may not remember how it was, how much women have lost in the church over the decades.

Leesburg, VA

>>Women also ran powerful church auxiliary organizations, managing large budgets and deciding on projects.

They still do. The Relief Society is the largest auxiliary in the Church and it's run by women from top to bottom. They run the Young Women's organization and the Primary organization from top to bottom as well.

And the Church only publishes three magazines -- one for adults, one for teens, one for children. It's not like the men in the Church have their own magazine.


But the Relief Society is now under a Correlated Priesthood. Their publications were outlets for rank-and-file members' creativity. They collected their own money and managed their own budget. Most people today don't recall how it was before Correlation.

Cedar Hills, UT

@Red Corvette,

Those who "beg to differ" on this topic are those who view priesthood offices in terms of self promotion and privilege, which are the opposite of what priesthood office is actually about. Priesthood office is about service, and women in the LDS Church suffer from no shortage of opportunities to serve. Nor are LDS women denied any priesthood ordinance required for exaltation.

The only "ceiling" Kate Kelly experiences is the one she has sadly placed over herself as a result of her pride.

Springville, UT

I don't understand why women can't have the Priesthood. I think it is tradition, not true doctrine.

Australia, 00

The Church is going to face and is already facing major issues as the world changes about it. Homosexuality and homosexual marriage is becoming legal throughout the world and women are getting formal leadership roles in most churches. I do not know what the Church will do, but I note that it has changed fundamental doctrines before in the face of Societal revulsion; namely, plural marriage and allowing Blacks to have the Priesthood. Both of these decisions changed the Church for the good. Could you imagine the situation the Church would be in now if Blacks could not hold the priesthood?

Aurelius maximus
Berryville, VA

@ Red Corvette, RustedHalo

I don't recall anything in the scriptures about God being a God of Political Correctness.
I recall him to be a God of Wisdom and Order.

What other Churches are doing are unprecedented. The Prophet Thomas S. Monson has in recent years said:

"We have come to the earth in troubled times. The moral compass of the masses has gradually shifted to an “almost anything goes” position.

I’ve lived long enough to have witnessed much of the metamorphosis of society’s morals. Where once the standards of the Church and the standards of society were mostly compatible, now there is a wide chasm between us, and it’s growing ever wider."

terra nova
Park City, UT

I don't get it. People whine about the problems of being "correlation" yet it is correlation that makes the topics discussed in the Women's meetings the same as those discussed by the men.

Correlation equalizes things. Isn't equality what the dissenters want?

Can't we accept that sometimes women need to meet together as a group. Same with the men? We meet together then we split up. Then we go home. But we discuss the same topics.

Where's the problem?

Cleveland , OH

"Opportunities to serve." Yep, women in your church have plenty of those.

Opportunities to lead?
Opportunities to set and direct policy that directly impacts women?

Not so much.


Correlation may have made the topics in the lesson manuals the same, but that was by cutting our or diluting many of those topics. Nor is the approach exactly the same. Someone did a study of manuals for young women vs. young men, and the scope of the thinking process demanded and facts presented was very different. I would post a link but I don't think links are allowed in comments.

N. Las Vegas, NV

When all is said and done, if you have obtained a testimony of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ thru earnest searching and prayer you know that He leads and directs all affairs that go on therin. To all the invitation is extended to know truth.. " seek...knock...ask ".

Wyoming Jake
Casper, WY

I can't understand why women want to have equal status as leaders? All it would mean is an additional immense amount of work for them to do and nothing more rewarding than what they already do. There is no wealth and glory involved. I suppose this controversy will continue until there are women apostles and even a prophet.

Salt Lake City, UT

In pretty much every single church everyone could receive everything regarding priesthood blessings. The article was referring to the matter of who can administer them.

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