From their own mouths -- just a couple I found, there are more): The
removal of the Arab inhabitants ... was voluntary and was carried out at our
request ... The Arab delegation proudly asked for the evacuation of the Arabs
and their removal to the neighboring Arab countries.... We are very glad to
state that the Arabs guarded their honour and traditions with pride and
greatness.[/I]-- Arab National Committee of Haifa, in a memorandum to the
Arab States. Cited by J.B. Schechtman, The Arab Refugee Problem (New York:
Philosophical Library, 1952), pp. 8-9; also see Al-Zaman, Baghdad journal, April
27, 1950Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees
... while it is we who made them leave.... We brought disaster upon ... Arab
refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave....
We have rendered them dispossessed.... We have accustomed them to begging.... We
have participated in lowering their moral and social level.... Then we exploited
them in executing crimes of murder, arson, and throwing bombs upon ... men,
women and children-all this in the service of political purposes.-- Khalid
abn-Azm, Prime Minister of Syria in his 1972 memoirs
Goddess divine- Do you know anything about the current situation at all? Hamas
is actually a ruling political party with a military wing. Your attempt to
separate them from the government is faulty as they are the government. Even if
they were not, if the government was not willing to stop them, why should Israel
be left an open target.Bob- the Palestinians today are not really
the same as those that were there before Islam. Most of these Palestinians are
Muslims, and a faction of them believe the ideology that all non-Muslims must do
one of the following: Convert to Islam, leave, pay taxes to them, or be killed.
This is what ISIS is doing in Iraq. None of those options is acceptable to the
Israelis, and we should not expect them to acquiesce to those demands.
Preferably Hamas supports the convert or die more than anything else.
Gaza was not occupied prior to the 6 day war when arab nations attempted to
destroy Israel. The West Bank, Sinai, and Golan Heights were taken to provide
defensive positions. Sinai was traded back for peace, the Gaza was returned to
Palestinians in an attempt at gaining peace, The UN tried to create a
Palestinian state but was turned down and the 1948 conflict took place.
Palestinians removed themselves from Israel because they thought the Arabs could
wipe them out. Arabs treat Palestinians as sub class citizens in Jordan, Syria,
Lebenon, and Egypt. Why is that?
make Palestine a country,stop giving Palestine's aid money to Isreal so
they can be self sufficient. build a wall between the 2 countries, share
Jerusalem and stop the blockades and allow the palistian to fish in there own
ocean without running into the warships. and quit running over young Utah girls
with bulldozers that are protesting[this was a while back] and the rockets will
stop because they have no reason to fire them. truth is both countries will
always hate each other but, at least they can live side by side without fear
Bobnice excuse for keeping your land and not paying a land lease to the
@Bob Bohey-Unfortunately, the Philistinis' (Arabic for Palestinian)
patriarch had two sons and gave explicit birthrights (land) to each.
Ishmael's legacy was great, it just didn't include the tiny parcel
they currently claim. (Genesis 16-17). Abraham pre-dates his grandson,
Jacob/Israel, and the Creator of the Land gave the covenant to Abraham's
second son, Issac. It's in print, made by blood covenant; irrevocable-
Genesis 15.Any other narrative is fiction.
@Goddess-1- Israel IS targeting the terrorist source of the rocket fire:
The UN has verified the human shields, hence the death toll- by Pal-Arab
choice not to evacuate. Even the liar, Hanan Ashawri, said Monday- "Why
should they be told when to leave their own homes?" Duh...2-
Leaflets carpet targeted areas before Every bombing. IDF soldiers plead with
the civilians, who turn deaf ears and face death with confounded beligerance.
Christian Arabs plead with the people, who taunt them as traitors and threaten
their families. (Even in Bethlehem, far from Gaza City.)3- My
Syrian mother-in-law, 91, still cannot get over her anti-semitism, even after 80
cushy U.S. years. Inbred hatred remains irrational. And of course, every
conflict/offense is the cause of "those Yehuds".4- Your
historical narrative from Biblical times to present is inaccurate. The land was
purchased legally; Palestinian thugs killed many Arab landlords who sold even
swampland to Jews. They continue to publically execute any who seek compromise.
Read a paper sometime.5- The Ancient Document prophetically
explains the hatred: Ishmael will always remain "wild" and in conflict,
@lost in DC: Unfortunately it appears that neither situations can be undone.
That being the case does not alter the facts of either situation and IMVHO those
that refuse acknowledge these facts are the ones whose words and actions ring
hollow. @Kora: The Palestinians were nomadic tribes that lived in
that region long before Judaism or Islam existed.
Bob Bohey,To attribute the current Israeli/Palestinian conflict
solely to the allegedly illigitimate creation and recognition of the state of
Israel in the late 1940s is both one-sided and historically myopic. What about
the arbitrary (and arguably illigitimate) creation of the various arabic states,
primarily by England and France, following WWI? The national identity of these
states that exists today was nonexistant prior to that -- they were largely
independent nomadic bedouin tribes that Prince Faisal tried to unite through
conquest, and that a handful of Europeans capriciously grouped together into
more or less what we have today.Also, the Jewish occupation of
Palestine/Canaan didn't just happen overnight sometime in 1948; the return
of the Jews to Palestine/Canaan began about a hundred years before that, albeit
gradually at first, when the land was largely unoccupied, except for a few of
the aforementioned nomadic bedouin tribes.And really, the conflict
pre-dates Mohammed and Islam, and goes back to Ishmael and Isaac.
lets make the protesters happy. After all that is what they are protesting for,
they want their way. Send them to their home land and let them help the cause
they are protesting for, Enough with the political correctness.
@ Goddess Divine, I respectfully disagree, your theory that terrorism is caused
by poverty has been disproved repeatedly. Most of the terrorist fighters and
suicide bombers when you examine their backgrounds come from largely wealthy or
middle class faamilies and most have college degrees and higher education. If
they are tired that the olive trees are burning then they shouldn't be
shooting rockets at kindergarten schools of their neighbors. Palestinian reality
my foot. It is well documented evenfrom leftist media outlets such as the NEW
YORK TIMES that in 1947 the Palestinians were offered a seperate state they
rejected it and they still reject it if part of the peace proposal includes the
recognition of Israel. And the UN is an accomplice especially as their member
states in europe pay terrorist protection money to be left alone (hello Barbary
pirates) and look the other way as their facilities are hi-jacked for arms
storage and safe houses. Looking the other way and ignoring the problem
wasn't an excuse for the Germans in 1938-1945 and the UN doing it now is
These protesters are either very uninformed or are radical extremists who
support destroying anything Jewish. The Arabic peoples in Israel are lucky to
have the Jews there. If the Jews hadn't returned to their ancestral
homeland and made it very nice, the country would look like neighboring Syria,
which is a barren wasteland. If the Palestinians would get with the program and
participate in the development of Israel, they could also become successful like
the Jews have. Their bitter family feud, which dates back several millennia,
will ultimately destroy them. Why they can't realize that is beyond me.
I have repeated this many times: the Palestinians shared the land with the
Israelis since biblical times. Some people keep insisting that the Israelis were
there first. The Palestinians are the philistines that se know of. Samson was
seduced by Delilah who was a philistine. Also, Israel was not a state until its
creation in 1948 (for those claiming that Palestine was not a state). And when
Israel was created as a state, 70% of the population in that area were Arabs.
They were the majority and that is the reason they did not agree with the
partition of the land. Most Israelis came from overseas as settlers when the
Palestinians were already there. It is similar to waht happened in America, the
majority of the population were native Americans and the settlers came from
Europe and took their land. Although it is not exactly the same. Many people
make this comparison because US governent has helped Israel to invade Palestine,
same as they did in the past here with the native Americans. This is the image
our government is giving to the world.
For the people saying that UN schools fosters violence and that they are
accomplices, let me tell you what fosters violence. When people live in poverty
and have no prospects of future, when they can get no education, when they
can't travel or leave their country, when they can't go to work
because they are surrounded by soldiers, when their houses are demolished and
taken by others, when their olive trees and livelihood is burned to the ground,
when their children in the streets are shot by soldiers because they were
throwing stones, when everything they love is dead and they have no reason to
live for anymore, then is at that point when people become violent and when they
don't care if they live or die. That is when some people make the terrible
choice of becoming terrorist, being violent or even blowing themselves up. This
is the Palestinian reality. It is not right for them or for us. It has to stop.
Someone made a comment saying that if Mexico bombs Texas then Texas should do
the same. Are we becoming a little bit extremist here? Please, listen to your
own words and think rationally. If a few US terrorist will bomb Argentina, then
should Argentina destroy the whole country and bomb the US? Does it look
different when we turn the example the other way around? Keep in mind that when
countries are destroyed like this, children and women are the main victims. There is terrorism in almost every country in the world, guerrillas,
mafias, gangs, etc. what civilized countries do is work with each other to fight
terrorism, not bomb the whole country. If the other country is not the position
to help or doesn't want to help for some reason, you can still target the
terrorist without destroying the whole country. If all the countries will bomb
each other because of terrorist attacks, we would be all in a state of war
already for many years, including the US. I suggest you and I start reading more
about terrorist organizations in other countries and how some solved their
problems and other didn't.
How come to leftists and pro-palestinians the UN's decrees are viewed as
practically gospel, Israel their own creation being the exception? If this
isn't the greatest argument for independence, sovereignty, and opposition
to UN and all its worthless policies I don't know what is.Israel was
created to avoid genocide and give people who have been made a political
scapegoat for every regimes failures a military to defend themselves against
people who still believe the garbage and lies of the protocols of the elders of
Zion. There is NO Palestinian state nor has there ever been!!! The
last country that had claim to the region was the OTTOMAN empire which fell
apart after WWI for supporting the Kaiser. There have been Jewish Muslim and
Christian settlements there for hundreds of years and since the mid-19th century
it has been under British protectorate up till 1947.The Palestinian
refugees were largely by choice as the invading Arab armies promised them the
spoils of genocide just didn't expect Israel to win.UN schools
are military targets when they are harboring terrorists and arms. That’s
not a civilian that’s an accomplice.
It is not the first time Israel bombs Palestinians home. This has happened
several times before but US news barely covers this. In other occasions it has
happened and Israel doesn't always warns Palestinians about these attacks.
Also, in most of these bombings, children and women are the ones that die, not
Hamas. People need to looks for different sources of information:
newspapers, Internet, tv, etc. it is helpful to read foreign newspapers as well
since they are more- accurate when they report the news than US newspapers.
There is a lot of information on line including videos of bombings and pictures
of the injured and dead Palestinians. If you want to know the truth, you can
find it, but you have to be strong because it is not pretty. Many people get
disappointed when they discover the chosen people are not that chosen anymore.
Lets's remember that many are called but few are chosen. Killing children
doesn't come from Christ.
Bob Bohey- who forced the Jewish people out of present day Israel long before
they returned? If you look at history, the Jewish people were in that land long
before Islam ever existed. Muslims then forced them out. The truth is Hamas does
not want peace. It is that simple. The terrorist groups in the region will not
be satisfied until Israel does not exist. A Palestinian state is only acceptable
to them in the absence of the Jewish people.Look at what is happening in
Iraq. Christians are being forced out by Islamic Terrorists, ISIS. Where are the
protests against this and for the US to stop it?
"Palestinians store missiles in UN schools and publicly say their goal is to
destroy Israel". Therefore, Palestinians is bearing the consequence of their
The Palestinians should demand Hamas stop painting targets on
Palestinians’ backs.Blue Collar,Not with BO in charge.
He would apologize, then ask what we did, then apologize again, then campaign,
then say it was Boehner’s fault.Bob A. BoheyWhat are you
suggesting, we ship all the Israelis out? Where are you going to send them, who
are YOU going to displace? No, it has been too many generations since the
formation of Israel to blame this on the Europeans and the US. Hamas teaches
continual hatred and will not stop until Israel no longer exists, which will not
happen.It was a shame? Are YOU giving your land and home back to
the indigenous peoples? Unless you are, or are paying them land rents, your
comment is rather hollow.
Here's an idea. Instead of blaming all of your problems on Israel. Maybe
crack down on your terrorists organizations.It's hard to be the
victim, when you support an organization that murders children, women and
men.I also see the flip side. How do you forgive Israel that
launches attacks in your land?There had been relative peace and
quiet, until Hamas murdered the teens. That's when Israel retaliated and is
working to protect and defend herself. If the Palestinian people would remove
the terrorists organization out of it's city and actually show they want
peace. I think Israel wouldn't have an issue to step back and allow peace
to happen.But, until one side steps back and the other side does the
same. Nothing is going to change. No matter how many speeches baroke gives or
Kerry or Pelosi or the Clinton love machine.Why not unify both
nations and allow everyone to move freely? Because there is too much hate. Evil
people in power....
What did Utah do to warent this protest? Seems there is never any logic or
reasoning with these people, they all want to live in the Stone Age, except for
For too many people, it's the idea of "they're the underdog, so we
should support them." Would they be as supportive if it were Cuba
protesting our 50-year embargo by lobbing thousands of missiles into Miami?
What response would they think appropriate then? Hamas has taken millions of
dollars of aid money intended to help the people better their lives and used it
both to enrich their leaders, who have mansions abroad now, and to construct
tunnels designed solely to enable attacks on Israeli civilians and their
kidnapping. Gazans have no interest in building a functioning country. This is
evidenced not only by their ongoing focus on destroying Israel, but by their
looting and destroying over 5000 state-of-the-art commercial greenhouses that
Israel left for them when pulling out of Gaza years ago. They could have been
feeding most of their own people by now if they wanted to. Instead, they're
focused on raising children to be terrorists and cannon fodder.
I saw this small group and marvel at their perspective. The Palestinians can
have a sovereign nation and peace, but they don't want it. Rather, they
shoot missiles randomly into Israel. And use women and children as shields plus
they store missiles in UN schools and publicly say their goal is to destroy
There is no question that violence in Israel and Palestine today is the direct
result of illegitimately creating the state of Israel after WWII. All nations
that refused to really help Jewish holocaust refuges and had a hand in the
creation of Israel bear the responsibility of all of the violence that has
ensued in the years since. That is the hard and cold truth of this matter that
NO ONE wishes to discuss. It is shameful and on par with what the European
settlers/imperialists did to the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
Shame on Israel? Shame on Hamas and the Palestinian people for voting to give
them power. Hamas is simply a terrorist organization. If Hamas weren't
digging tunnels and shooting rockets into Israel, Israel would leave Gaza
alone.Of course these bad feelings between these people go back to
the time of the Exodus so it's a little hard to give up a 4000 year old
grudge.The Palestinians have made their bed, Israel is making them
sleep in it.The protesters are being a bit myopic, of course the
news media follows right along and Israel gets the brunt of the criticism.
I am curious as to the point of view of the pro-palestinian group on how they
think this all got started and what they think would be an appropriate response.
I wonder what we would do if Mexico launched thousands of rockets into Texas?? I
think we would destroy them. What would we do if they used tunnels to send
murders into our country to kill Americans? We would destroy them. Hamas wants
to kill every Jew, they are terrorists and the ones protesting against Israel
are the same people who support Terrorist and hate freedom. Shame on them.
In the picture, there is a man with the poster saying, "Stop the
bombing". I am sure he is referring to the thousands of rockets fired
by the terrorist muslim group, Hamas, right?
Simple solution. Stop firing rockets. Disavow the destruction of Israel. Come
to the table and get what you want. Easy.
It is a tragedy for innocent souls to die. It is also a tragedy for ignorance,
dishonesty and hatred to blind citizens as to who is responsible for Palestinian
deaths.Hamas has no love for its own people, Israeli children, or
the rule of law. They began the conflict by murdering three innocent teenagers.
They perpetuate hatred in all their charters and literature. They use most of
their funds to build tunnels and arsenals. Every time Israel cedes land they
are rewarded with more mortars and increased hatred. But Hamas is honest about
their intentions that Israel should be defeated and obliterated. The world
hears them loud and clear; now Israel will rid their land of the non-negotiable
warriors.It's just a tragedy that Palestinians can't think
on their own or see through their own prejudice. Public protests in our country
aren't fooling anyone. They only prove that the false moniker of apartheid
is nonsense.How many will die before they decide to seek peace?
There are plenty of other Muslim countries in the region: Try protesting
there.God is weeping over this unnecessary carnage. 93% of Israelis
support this military.
This is why terrorists are spreading. People form their own religion continue
with the false beleife of Israeli occupation. Those who are Muslim in Israeli
controlled areas, hope they never lose control. That is privately. On camera,
they have to chear on the other guys, or get killed. I have a test idea. Lets
say a bunch of Mormons, in Utah, decided to kill all Palestinians, it is in
their teaching philosophy. They teach their kids to hate all Palesinians, and
will reward their kids if they kill a Palestinian. In fact, we would shoot from
behind women and children. We would launch missiles from hospitals and schools.
We would co-oped law enforcement agencies to look the other way. We woudl use
tunnels that go from temples to do it. Would you suppport the idea that if that
was the case, that those Palestinians had a right to defend themselves? If you
said yes, you would be correct. That is what is happening to Israel. It is
Hamas, and other terrorist nations, who call for the elimination of their lives.
A cease fire really does nothing. It gives terrorists a chance to relocate to
another place and shoot again.
One, I hope these people appreciate the fact that they could do this protest
here in America, or in Israel. However, if they tried an anti-government
protest in any Muslim country they would likely be arrested and or killed.Two, The notion that only Israel is getting weapons is absurd. These
rockets, of which they seem to have an endless supply, are coming from
somewhere, likely Iran. And the tunnels are also likely the method of getting
them into Gaza.Three, I side with Israel. 100%.
People forget that not only are Hamas forbidding people from leaving their homes
when Israel warns of an impending attack, but intentionally stages their weapons
and men near women and children. Untold numbers of children reportedly died
digging these "terror tunnels" under duress. The only way Israel is
going to root Hamas out and neutralize its threat is to do what they are doing.
If we support Palestine in the way these protesters suggest, we'll be
making a very dangerous enemy out of Israel. They will stop at nothing to
protect their homes from the Hamas terrorist and those who support them.
How about Palestinian’s get rid of Hamas, stop launching bombs/rockets
into Israel, demolish the terror tunnels that have been built between Gaza and
Israel, and act like they really want peace. Using women and children as shields
to your bombs and other military hardware is weak and cowardly. Israel has shown
much more restraint than any other country with the fire power they have.