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Published: Saturday, Aug. 2 2014 11:40 p.m. MDT

Updated: Saturday, Aug. 2 2014 11:40 p.m. MDT

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waikiki_dave
Honolulu, HI

I could think of creative, strong-armed ways to get these guys out of my apartment rental. This lady needs play 'hard ball' with these guys . . . believe me, they would leave.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

"Whenever the vicious portion of the population shall be permitted to gather in bands of hundreds and thousands, and burn churches, ravage and rob provision stores, throw printing presses into rivers, shoot editors, and hang and burn obnoxious persons at pleasure, and with impunity; depend on it, this government cannot last."
--Abraham Lincoln

This well known quote fits this situation perfectly. Our society is approaching the point of lawlessness that Lincoln foresaw. Selfishness is ruling the day, and the government is doing nothing about it.

Blue and White
Provo, UT

This shouldn't be allowed to happen. It doesn't help that they are being protected and basically endorsed to behave like this. The laws need to change. And once they finally leave I would hope that future renters would have enough sense to turn them down or to make them pay for the entire stay up front. I can't believe people are fine with being so dishonest.

codger
Southwest Utah, UT

"....the tap water hurts his expensive espresso machine"???
Why are there ANY utilities still on at the place?

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

For the sake of us all, I hope these little creeps get booted out of her place far and fast.

dwalk
Albuquerque, NM

Welcome to California, where everything is paid for by somebody else. Where all responsibility belongs to somebody else. Where money is endless as long as you vote for big government and as long as the Fed's printing presses are working.

Smart Aleck
Vancouver, WA

Surely the police can help evict trespassers!

K
Mchenry, IL

It has to be done through court with time and money spent. It's on the owner to prove and the renter is given every opportunity. That is the law.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Surely for a price, there is someone who will 'evict' these brothers.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

John Charity Spring.

"This well known quote fits this situation perfectly. "

It must be a quote for every situation. You have used it on every single topic.
We get it. Enough already.

MNmamaof4
Lakeville, MN

We had renters who didn't pay for months, trashed the place and wouldn't leave. The sheriff's dept. will evict, but only when the owners have met all of the requirements by law and the sheriff charged us a fee for the service. I feel for this woman.

dwayne
Provo, UT

California law protects people who are classified as renters and not as guests at a hotel, motel, residence club, or other lodging facility as defined by California law. An example of what hotel's have a legal right to do in respect to guests that landlords don't without a court order in respect to tenants is to lock out guests who don't pay their room charges on time. Landlords have to go through the formal eviction proceedings to evict a non-paying tenant.

To be classified as a guest and not a tenant one of the following must be true:

You live in a hotel, motel, residence club, or other lodging facility:

1) for 30 days or less, and your occupancy is subject to the state's hotel occupancy tax

2) for more than 30 days, but have not paid for all room and related charges owing by the 30th day

3) to which the manager has a right of access and control, and all of the following are true:

a) the hotel/motel allows occupancy for less than 7 days

b) the following services are available:

* fireproof safe
* central telephone service
* maid, mail, and room service
* food service

This woman isn't innocent

dwayne
Provo, UT

cjb,

"Surely for a price, there is someone who will 'evict' these brothers."

They would be violating the law in doing so. There is only one legal way to evict a tenant from a residential unit and that is through the formal eviction proceedings.

This woman was trying to get around the law and now she is upset when her legal tenants are refusing to leave without going through the formal eviction process and while what these people are doing in refusing to leave isn't right it's even less right what this landlord was trying to do using Airbnb as their property management company and providing their home to tenants for 44 days.

Their residential condo is not a hotel and is not subject to the same requirements to be classified as a hotel or other lodging facility. This landlord is dishonest and attempts to use extralegal ways to get around the law and if she hires someone to evict them without legal process she can be arrested. She wants the best of both worlds.

Short term tenants she can treat however she wants but the law caught up with her. Shame on them but shame on her more

dwayne
Provo, UT

Smart Aleck,

"Surely the police can help evict trespassers!"

They aren't trespassers but are tenants and they legally rented her home and have the legal rights of a tenant. We have laws for a reason. This landlord was trying to pull a fast one and get around the law. She thought she had found a way to not have to abide by tenant-landlord laws but she didn't.

The condo is in Palms Springs yet she lives in her home in San Francisco. This isn't someone who is out of her place to live while they squat in her home. They are her tenants. She has been renting it on Airbnb and Flipkey for the last year to help her pay higher rents on her home in San Francisco. In the eyes of the law it doesnt matter if its an apartment complex of 400 units managed by ABC Property Managers or a single unit she manages through Airbnb or Flipkey. From the sound of it she uses them to avoid legal requirements but what she failed to understand going in is the law anticipated her crooked shenanigans. She will have to legally evict them

JSB
Sugar City, ID

Can't all the utilities to the apartment be turned off? Or does California have a law that protects these dishonest people from getting an apartment rent free--even the utilities. I know of several people who have had renters that won't pay and won't move and they are protected by ridiculous laws. Aren't there laws that can protect the landlord?

K
Mchenry, IL

It is wrong to rent a place for 44 days and paying only, if at all for the 44 days and then refusing to leave and refusing to pay more money. But she can not make their conditions uncomfortable. She has to go through the formal process which is lengthy and costly. It is part of the price of being a landlord. These men would do it again. From the quotes if accurate they don't sound like everything is alright with them.

It doesn't matter where she lives. It does not matter if she needs to live in the place. She would like to rent it to another person. It is her property. The tenants should adhere to the contract. She is a victim because they aren't.

SlopJ30
St Louis, MO

"Our society is approaching the point of lawlessness that Lincoln foresaw."

I giggled out loud when I read this line. A couple of doofus brothers freeload for a coupld of weeks, and we're nearing the point of anarchy. The union must be more fragile than I ever imagined.

Red
San Antonia, TX

We need some more old fashioned justice.

Someone needs to throw these bums out on their heads.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

the renters have an evil look in their eyes, like that mass murderer from Norway. They are clearly in the wrong here. But renting on AirBNB is risky business and ripe for situations like this occurring. People who put their place up for rent on AirBNB should be very careful.

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

Hopefully the law will allow a lien on all future earnings, including interest, to pay for every day spent in the Condo. Then, there should also be penalties . . .

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