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  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 3, 2014 1:05 a.m.

    @ Snack PAC

    By that standard TCU and WVU didn't deserve their invitations either.

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Aug. 2, 2014 10:02 p.m.

    Uteanymous
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    wacpaddled

    From the same NIU blog re: the NIU/Utah series announcement:

    "Will be interesting to see who they announce tomorrow. My guess is it will be a bigger name than SD St, BYU, and Utah. Fingers crossed."

    "With all this hype I hope it’s someone worthwhile, Utah is a solid H&H but not worth all the hype they've been giving their scheduling release."

    "I really think it’s going to be Big Ten, ACC, a low level SEC based on what they've been saying, we know it’s bigger than Utah based on the quote today saying tomorrow will be better."

    hmmmm, it doesn't seem that the NIU fans are all that impressed with Utah's "P5 status".

    >>>

    I wish fellow BYU fans would stop embarrassing the rest of us.

    NIU boards are loaded with lack of interest in scheduling BYU.

    "How does BYU improve our strength of schedule? They hardly beat ranked teams."

    "As a Booster I will pass. At least Utah is a P5 member."

    "Don't care for their fan base. A bunch of whiners."

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 2, 2014 6:08 p.m.

    Uteology

    Or the Utah fan narrative that Utah could compete with anybody, which has been proven to be a complete farce, proving that the PAC 12 acted too hastily in inviting a program that obviously didn't deserve to be included in a P5.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 2, 2014 1:41 a.m.

    @Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    @gettingpaddledbythewac

    Uh....apparently you've missed the utah "fan" narrative that utah somehow deserves a 2-1 with any non p5 team despite the fact that absolutely no one will agree to that arrangement with them. lol

    This just confirms the delusion of that utah "fan" claim.

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    Like BYU narrative that somehow you deserve a P5 invite despite the fact that absolutely no one will agree to that arraignment with you?

    The difference, Deseret News has 1,000 articles on BYU's "P5 entitlement" claim.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Aug. 2, 2014 12:44 a.m.

    2fer

    Don't kid yourself. The statement clearly had absolutely nothing to do with BYU.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 7:32 p.m.

    @ Uteanymous

    NIU's program clearly thinks that Utah series is better than the BYU series.

    "we know it’s bigger than Utah based on the quote today saying tomorrow will be better."

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    @gettingpaddledbythewac

    Uh....apparently you've missed the utah "fan" narrative that utah somehow deserves a 2-1 with any non p5 team despite the fact that absolutely no one will agree to that arrangement with them. lol

    This just confirms the delusion of that utah "fan" claim.

    I do like the whining though, sure your schedules hard, jsut one more reason utah will be a losing bowless program again this year. Enjoy yourself.

    p.s. No of course I don't read NIU message boards. You do? lol

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 1, 2014 12:38 p.m.

    wacpaddled

    From the same NIU blog re: the NIU/Utah series announcement:

    "Will be interesting to see who they announce tomorrow. My guess is it will be a bigger name than SD St, BYU, and Utah. Fingers crossed."

    "With all this hype I hope it’s someone worthwhile, Utah is a solid H&H but not worth all the hype they've been giving their scheduling release."

    "I really think it’s going to be Big Ten, ACC, a low level SEC based on what they've been saying, we know it’s bigger than Utah based on the quote today saying tomorrow will be better."

    hmmmm, it doesn't seem that the NIU fans are all that impressed with Utah's "P5 status".

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 1, 2014 11:38 a.m.

    wacpaddled

    "Have you read any NIU related boards?"

    I read this statement:

    "BYU is an opponent that will bring a national name and a long tradition of success to our schedule," NIU Athletic Director Sean T. Frazier said in a release. "I think this is a series that will make Huskie fans take notice and realize that we are serious about bringing top-quality opponents to Huskie Stadium and that now is the time to get involved with NIU Football."

    And this comment:

    "For good MAC teams like NIU, this is the slot where you go out and get the highest profile H/H series you can. Typically it would be a P5 team but BYU and ND are independents that would fall into that category as well."

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 1, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT
    How come the best utah could do is a get and 1 for 1 with a team like NIU? And how come the first game is at NIU? Here's betting NIU drops the game at utah after utah plays at NIU then schedules someone that will really add to their SOS.

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    in Conference Utah plays ASU, UCLA, USC, OR, WA, OR. St.............please tell us how Utah needs to do better than that. Unlike BYU that has to fill up it's entire schedule as an indie.

    Have you read any NIU related boards? Their fans refer to BYU as a mid-major, and Utah a good P5 scheduling move.
    LOL!

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Aug. 1, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    @65tosspowertrap ..."Why don't you guys just schedule home and homes with 8-9 power conference teams every year?"

    "Because BYU doesn't want to be the another bad P-5 football program in Utah."

    Right, they would much rather act like their better then they think they are by scheduling a bunch of bad teams....LOL....Cowards!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2014 10:41 p.m.

    @ DisturbedOne

    Utah won on the scoreboard, and in the rankings.

    Sometimes it's best to just stop digging.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2014 4:44 p.m.

    First Utah fan comment about the BYU-NIU series: 22 minutes
    First Utah fan comment about the Utah-NIU series: * crickets *

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    timid sparrow

    "NIU is a great example of how scheduling down is a great way to artificially inflate your ranking."

    hmmm

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2014 4:34 p.m.

    duckhunter

    "How come the best utah could do is a get and 1 for 1 with a team like NIU? And how come the first game is at NIU?"

    At least the return visit to RES is on a Thursday night, with a likely prime time 8:00 p.m. start... oh wait!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 31, 2014 4:09 p.m.

    How come the best utah could do is a get and 1 for 1 with a team like NIU? And how come the first game is at NIU? Here's betting NIU drops the game at utah after utah plays at NIU then schedules someone that will really add to their SOS.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    July 31, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    It's interesting how adept you are at looking up Sagarin ratings when it suits your purpose, and how you pretend that they don't even exist when they don't support your narrative.

    2004 - Utah SOS #67
    2008 - Utah SOS #56

    2012 - BYU #63 (with five ranked teams)
    2013 - BYU SOS #38

    All we've heard from Utah fans like you the last two seasons is that BYU only qualified for bowls by playing weak schedules.

    So why do you obsess so much about BYU's 1984 schedule, yet you're so completely dismissive of Utah's 2004 and 2008 SOS?

    Spin away; I'm sure you've got a very convenient excuse for you inconsistency.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 31, 2014 3:18 p.m.

    No doubt Kilarny playing 4 ranked teams in 2008, then handing 11-1 Alabama their worst loss of the season was a walk in the park. New to college football?

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    July 31, 2014 2:38 p.m.

    navelvet

    "NIU "backed in" to the BCS...

    just like Hawai'i did back in 2007-08

    [and Utah did in 2004 and 2008]:

    ala undefeated season via weak SOS."

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 31, 2014 2:29 p.m.

    FatMan86

    "Wow, can't wait for both of these barn burners. I'll bet NBC will buy out the Cougs TV deal to broadcast these games."

    Open mouth, insert foot, and crow.

    LOL!

    Can't wait to see the frantic spin from the kids on the hill about how much better Idaho State and Northern Illinois are when they play Utah, instead of BYU.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 31, 2014 2:20 p.m.

    Of course today a utah/NIU home and home was anounced. lol

    And then utah is playing idaho state in a few weeks .lol

    utah "fans", open mouth, insert foot,

    LOL!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    July 31, 2014 1:28 p.m.

    Word is there will be heaping helpings of crow being served on the hill tonight when Utah's home-and-home with Northern Illinois is announced.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    July 31, 2014 1:15 p.m.

    The comments from Ute fans are even more hilarious in light of the announcement that Utah just scheduled a home-and-home with Northern Illinois as well.

    Once again, the Utes are desperate to keep up with BYU.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2014 12:55 p.m.

    Yes!. College football is getting closer, the hype is alive and well (I love it)!. Wonder what kind of a season Utah is going to have this year? They play a pretty touch schedule so maybe 5-7? Oh, that would mean going to the "Rump on The Hump Couch Potato Bowl" again - yikes!. If BYU has a great year like I think they will (probably 11-1 or 10-2) and go to a Bowl game it will be very satisfying for us Coug fans for sure. If the Utes go 5-7, I'm guessing the seat Coach Whit sits on could get a little warm? Wow, it's got to be frustrating to be a bottom dweller in the PAC-12. Maybe Utah should go back to the MWC or Wac conference where they could be competitive again - just sayin.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 31, 2014 12:13 p.m.

    Just telling you like it was; no need to get defensive. I know the head to head score means nothing; at least to many BYU fans. Utah beat BYU on the field and in the polls by the narrowest of margins; even on a very down year. That's just the way it is Guy!

  • DisturbedOne North, UT
    July 31, 2014 11:33 a.m.

    @Spokane Ute

    Wow by .6, they were only ranked higher because of their conference schedule. What really matters is wins, I guess as long as you finish ahead of BYU two conference wins is good enough.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 31, 2014 10:59 a.m.

    @Disturbedone

    I know where that came from, the Sagarin Rankings. Utah finished the season ranked higher. I hope that helps.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 31, 2014 10:44 a.m.

    Don't blame BYU if the utes can't match up in the PAC 12.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    July 31, 2014 10:33 a.m.

    "Perhaps you didn't realize that RES has sold out for 25 consecutive Utah football games?"

    Well, yeah. If BYU had a stadium that fit only 45k, they would have sold out for far more than 25 consecutive games.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    July 31, 2014 10:21 a.m.

    NIU is a good team who's played well lately. Should be a fun series. ISU is good for filling out the schedule in a pinch. That Sept. schedule is a killer and would challenge any team. I'd be happy if BYU came out of it at 2-2. That's what this article is about, contrary to what the comments may lead one to believe. If those who claim to have "moved on" would do so, things would be much better around here. A person can dream…

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2014 10:03 a.m.

    Huge gets that only add to a very difficult schedule.

    LOL.

  • xam Provo, UT
    July 31, 2014 9:13 a.m.

    @worf
    UNLV wins more then (than) half their games, and goes to a bowl game. What happened to the utes?

    Worf, Utah SOS #3, UNLV #88. Trust a BYU fan ignore the strength of schedule

    @worf
    Don't put BYU at the ute level. Please!

    Worf, we don't. Utah is much better than BYU... see 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

  • DisturbedOne North, UT
    July 31, 2014 8:47 a.m.

    @ Two For Flinching

    Two conference wins would make them one of the worst teams in the pac12. Finished ranked higher? Not sure where that came from.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 31, 2014 8:33 a.m.

    "Why don't you guys just schedule home and homes with 8-9 power conference teams every year?"

    Because BYU doesn't want to be the another bad P-5 football program in Utah.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 31, 2014 7:28 a.m.

    @ Factcheck

    BYU's schedule of P5 teams:

    "Even the first year of Independence BYU played 4. This year it will be 4 after the Bowl game and when UConn was scheduled they were a power conference team or it would have been 5."
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    You may want to do exactly your screen name implies prior to posting. BYU plays three teams from P-5 conferences this year, Texas, California and Virgina. U Conn and UCF play in the American Athletic conference. BYU is slated to play the winner of that conference in the Miami Beach Bowl. So the bowl game can not add a P5 team to the schedule. Furthermore, Cal and Virginia combined to go 0-17 in conference play last year. I hope this factual information helps with your understanding of BYU's up coming schedule.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 31, 2014 4:25 a.m.

    The BIG 12 would be sweet for BYU. I am baffled by the significant number of BYU fans that prefer independence. I get the exposure and all. And the freedom of scheduling argument makes sense, although it's still a fiasco. Then, you get the crowd that likes the chance to go unbeaten and hope for that big bowl invite. The latter example even has me thinking BYU has a much better chance at a BSC game than Utah. But how can BYU fans even be stoked at all to watch 8 games on their schedule. That is what excites me as a Ute fan, is watching Utah play better games week to week. I used to be so disgusted to watch Utah play New Mexico, Wyoming, UNLV, and all the duds on the schedule back then. Sure Utah would go bowling back then with even average football teams. But so what? I like big time football. Utah won't go undefeated anymore and the Rose bowl is a long shot, but Utah doesn't have to go undefeated anymore. In 2011, Utah wasn't all that far off. Seasons of parity in a conference opens the door.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 31, 2014 4:13 a.m.

    If you compare coaching records with Whitt and Bronco you will see a huge swing when Utah went to the PAC 12 and BYU to independence. The first 6 years when schedules were as equal as can be; Whitt was one game better than Bronco. Despite the UNLV debacle and BYU's 10 win seasons, Utah had a better record for those 6 years. And you can't blame the head to head rivalry thing for the better record overall as the rivalry game records were 3-3 in those 6 years. It's after that point (PAC 12 and Indy) when Utah won three in a row (four overall). Yet during Utah's win streak over BYU, Bronco moved well ahead of Whitt in win totals. Why? PAC 12 schedule vs. Indy schedule.Tthere is no other legit way to explain this. Sure there are other factors, but this is the meat of the issue here. Utah beat BYU 54-10 in Provo and BYU fans claim to be better because they were 10-3 and Utah 8-5 that year. Yet look back at those schedules and tell me with a straight face BYU was the better team.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 31, 2014 4:02 a.m.

    When BYU fans bag on Utah for their BCS bowls with a weak schedule they don't mention BYU not accomplishing the same (schedules were comparable then). If BYU can't go unbeaten this year then when can they? This years schedule softer than what BYU had in the MWC. Playing bad MWC teams is better than playing bad WAC and Big Sky teams.

    Utah beat 4 BCS schools in 2004 (Texas A&M, Arizona, North Carolina, and Pittsburgh). Those teams weren't great teams but Utah blew them out. BYU rips Utah for losing to Colorado when Virginia was worse than the Buffs. Look, the bottom line is this; playing bad teams in power conferences still leaves a physical toll on teams. This year BYU plays no physical teams except Texas. USU is now a nice program. Boise State had a decade long run. But neither team is big. BYU pounded Boise State last year. Houston is also a lesser squad. BYU could simply run the football with Hill and Williams all day and over power 11 of their 12 opponents this year. They should do that if their defense is what it has been the last few years.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 31, 2014 3:51 a.m.

    @Taylormade1

    Comparing BYU's schedule with Alabama's is crazy. You are claiming teams with bad records are equally bad. It's relative man. Those teams you mentioned with bad records in the SEC last year would have a solid shot at being undefeated with Idaho State's schedule. Seriously? Florida & Tennessee are not bad teams except for in the SEC or if they were in the other top three conferences in the country. Idaho State has a worse record with one of the worst schedules in the country.

    And it's not just records. Football is a war of attrition. Bodies get worn down over the season far more in a power conference and depth is a huge factor as well. Utah and TCU have found that out after dominating before joining BCS conferences.

    Yes Utah made two BCS bowls because they were in the MWC. Getting there now is a much taller order. But as bad a the MWC was it was far better than what NIU and Hawaii had when going undefeated. Last year was too much for BYU to go undefeated but this year is their chance. It's as soft a schedule as it gets.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 31, 2014 12:57 a.m.

    @SoonerUte,

    Don't put BYU at the ute level. Please!

    Utes wouldn't have made a bowl with last years BYU schedule.

    Utah is not a PAC 12 quality team. Period! That's why they are picked to finish at the bottom.

    They wouldn't do well in the MWC either.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    July 30, 2014 6:44 p.m.

    NIU is a top team in their league year in and year out. They are good for 8-11 wins, and a boost to strength of schedule if BYU happens to beat them. This is the kind of game I have been hoping for since Independence began for the challenging but winnable games.

    Not feeling great about the other game. However, that was to be expected. I was hoping that the Cougars could buy a game with a Sunbelt team.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 6:11 p.m.

    worf "UNLV wins more then half their games, and goes to a bowl game. What happened to the utes?"
    Same answer as yesterday when you asked that question... UNLV plays a different quality of opponents. UNLV (and BYU) would suffer playing Utah's schedule yada yada yada losing season and no bowl.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 6:05 p.m.

    @ DisturbedOne

    I'm sure you aren't taking about Utah, which beat BYU and finished ranked higher....

    @ cougarsrock

    UCF was a solid team last season. They lost a lot on offense, but I think their defense will be great. As for BYU finishing ranked, it wouldn't surprise me if it did wind up in the final rankings. The difference is, the PAC-12 teams achieved their ranking while playing a complete schedule of tough teams. BYU's schedule this year has a couple tests, but by overall is pretty weak.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 30, 2014 5:23 p.m.

    BigCougFan

    "...if WE wanted to see quality teams play we could always drive up to RES and fill some of the empty seats there."

    You might want to first get on the waiting list. Perhaps you didn't realize that RES has sold out for 25 consecutive Utah football games?

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    July 30, 2014 5:21 p.m.

    Since when is the Cincinnati mascot the Bengals? (that's the NFL team).

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    July 30, 2014 5:16 p.m.

    For a team (Utah) and her fans, which can't even compile a winning record, let alone earn a spot in one of "39" Bowl Games (78 available slots) they sure have a lot of Bluster and "False Bravado".

    Never in the History of Mankind, have so many, boasted of so much, with nothing to show for it.

  • JSwaggDaddy Heber City, UT
    July 30, 2014 5:12 p.m.

    @Chris B

    "We'd rather disassociate ourselves from you as you are a mid major and we've moved onto bigger and better things."

    So let me get this straight. You didn't play BYU because we are a mid-major? And instead, you played Fresno State? You remember what Fresno State is right?

    Let me help you out. They're a mid-major.

    There is a major flaw in the logic with the comment that you made. Chris Hill specifically said that he wouldn't schedule BYU because playing BYU and Michigan was too difficult. So he scheduled Fresno State instead. BYU is a better opponent than Fresno State.

    Athlon: BYU #35 Fresno #62
    Phil Steele: BYU #38 Fresno #52

    So no, utah has not moved on to "bigger and better" things. They have moved on to smaller and worse things with Fresno.

    Also, I noticed that UtesRulePac12 commented at 1:25 and you commented at 1:35. Do you just sit at your computer all day waiting for a comment you don't agree with? Just wondering.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 30, 2014 5:11 p.m.

    whoami

    "Why can't you schedule home/home (multiple times) with fellow independent ARMY? I always respected and enjoyed Utah's games against Air Force and Navy! And would feel the same about Army."

    When did Utah ever schedule a home game against either Army or Navy?

    Despite their Independent status, Army and Navy aren't nearly as easy to schedule as you're suggesting.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 30, 2014 4:58 p.m.

    Hmm?

    UNLV wins more then half their games, and goes to a bowl game.

    What happened to the utes?

  • WhyAmIhere? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 30, 2014 4:32 p.m.

    There's always more utah fans posting on BYU articles than there are BYU fans. That leads me to believe that the Utes secretly love the Cougars but are in a state of denial about it. It's very obvious that BYU garners much more interest in the news as well as better attendance at their games (both home and away).

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 30, 2014 4:12 p.m.

    Hey Chris B, if WE wanted to see quality teams play we could always drive up to RES and fill some of the empty seats there. But the reality of it is that we'd rather fill our own stadium than watch the utes lose again and again in their powerhouse conference.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:51 p.m.

    UTE fan here.

    I love BYU Football, their players, coaches, and administrative/support staff.

    I always root for BYU except when they are playing UTAH.

    When BYU went independent, I said it will be difficult for BYU to schedule.

    Tom has done an amazing job creating any schedule.

    The problems stems from the DN articles promising things will be better when reality is that scheduling as an independent will continue to be difficult, only more so.

    An example is the release of future games against ISU and NIU.

    Tom will find far more games available against teams of this caliber, rather than P5 teams he would love to schedule.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:51 p.m.

    Chris B

    "Since you barely can get 2-3 power conference games a years "

    Typical fuzzy Ute math. BYU played 7 Power Conference teams last year, 3 at home. 2-3..... 7... close enough eh Chris?

    Even the first year of Independence BYU played 4. This year it will be 4 after the Bowl game and when UConn was scheduled they were a power conference team or it would have been 5. Good luck winning that SOS National Championship and in your annual bowl game vs. Colorado. LOL

  • Jack from Ark Hensley, AR
    July 30, 2014 3:32 p.m.

    The UTEs are a better team than BYU because Football is not about football anymore but about money. Ute football is better as losers in the PAC 12 because they make more money than they did as a top team in the WAC and Mountain west. They are in a power 5 conference with probably the same chance at a rose bowl berth or national championship as they had in either the WAC or the Mountain West. No disrespect If the Utes win all their games they will find themselves in the rose bowl, the chances are that will not happen anytime soon. But good luck to both teams and we will see in fifteen weeks who is really the better team.

    Go Cougs and good luck Utes

  • GoUTES Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:30 p.m.

    Chris B, Spokane Ute and NavalVet are the greatest. I love how they jump on every BYU article and make comments. They are the best. I also love PAC12 fan. I wish I had thought of that screen name first. I am not only a Ute fan, I am a PAC12 fan. I have stickers on my car and flags. I also have an AFC bumper sticker, since that is my favorite NFL team and an American League East window decal, since that is my baseball team.

    Go Utes and more importantly Go PAC12

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    Yeah, NIU isn't the power house some are making it out as. Yes, they went to a BCS game a couple of years ago (and got handled a la Hawaii), but Utah State could have done it just as easily playing their schedule. Actually, looking at it, Utah State would have probably gone undefeated with that schedule that year. Moreover, last year we made their "vaunted" offense featuring their Heisman candidate QB look like so much hamburger against a meat saw when we played them in the Poinsettia Bowl last year, and beat them without too much trouble despite our offense being only about 65% strength. A solid win, but not surprising, much like beating LaTech the previous year. They are a lot better than Idaho State though. I'd characterize them as a middle of the road MWC team which would probably lose to USU, BSU, SDSU, and FSU, with 50/50 chances against CSU, UNLV, SJSU, and Wyoming.

  • Chamberlain Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:03 p.m.

    Gotta luv the avalanche of comments from a program that's not even on BYU's schedule next year.

    Obsessed much Utah fans?

  • ImagineUte Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 3:01 p.m.

    Outstanding scheduling move. Playing with the big boys now.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    We almost won one of the bad teams in the PAC last year. That's pretty good.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:52 p.m.

    I love mine independence and good, tuff schedules.

  • cougarsrock Springville, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:50 p.m.

    two for flinching,
    At the end of the year we all know that after the top 12 or so the polls end up nothing more than he said she said . if we use your theory from "last year " UCF which the Y plays this year at their house finished # 10 in the nation.Thanks, that just made the Y's schedule quite a bit tougher this year by your theory.lets talk at the end of the year and see whos "ranked" BYU or UTAH .

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:33 p.m.

    Idaho State is such a formidable foe when they play in RES, but they morph into smurfs when they travel that extra 45 miles to LES.

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    flatlander

    "Of course they [NIU] won eleven games, they play in the mid America conference"

    Remind us how many times the Utes won eleven games playing in the WAC.

  • DisturbedOne North, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:30 p.m.

    @ Two For Flinching
    Um, I think you're forgetting someone. There were THREE bad teams in the PAC 12 last year.

  • swizzy18 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:23 p.m.

    Ever seen the Seinfeld episode where Kramer beats up little kids at a karate studio for children? Exactly like BYU football. Anytime BYU has to fight an adult, they get pounded...especially when it is the adult up north (4 in a row).

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:15 p.m.

    Amusing that U fans are writing off NIU's BCS run while that's essentially what the U did as well. Also amusing is that the U fans are writing off BYU and wonder why the U would continue to play BYU since the U has 'owned' BYU recently. How about the 20 year period from 1972 - 1992 when BYU was 19-2? Should BYU have ended the games just because BYU dominated? Or should Utah have ended things since Utah owned BYU before 1972?

    The real crux of the problem is that the U and BYU were very closely tied, each helping the other along the way, until the U up and left BYU for the PAC. Somehow that gave U fans license to hate BYU, not just dislike but hate, and gave BYU a feeling of being abandoned by an old friend. It's a shame it happened, it's time to move on, and it's time for this silly rivalry to die off and end.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 2:09 p.m.

    @ taylormade1

    The PAC-12 had 6 teams finished ranked last season with a couple more receiving votes. There were only two "bad" teams in the PAC-12 last year; CU and Cal.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 30, 2014 2:02 p.m.

    RE: Chris B.

    "We'd rather disassociate ourselves from you as you are a mid major and we've moved onto bigger and better things."

    Would you PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE tell us what it means to "disassociate ourselves from you." Right now that looks like it means "by posting more frequently on your discussion boards, by reading more articles about BYU, etc." Seriously, I would like to know what it means for a Utah fan to "move on."

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 30, 2014 1:48 p.m.

    It's as if their trying to re-create the 1984 schedule. That's Awesome! Maybe they will get a 6-6 Miami of Ohio team in their bowl game. Dejavu all over again!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 30, 2014 1:47 p.m.

    Yes NIU made a BCS bowl by going undefeated against nobody. Although Utah had a tougher road in the MWC it was not by all that much. When you go undefeated twice and then have a hard time bowling afterwards, it says a lot. You see what has happened to Utah and TCU since playing the big boys weekly. Both are below 50% in winning percentage. If BYU fans think they would fair better then they are mistaken. Playing a few big boys a year is not the same as playing them week to week.

  • taylormade1 Springville, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:43 p.m.

    This SOS talk is absolutely hilarious ! the Y has put together very solid schedules in the upcoming years. This year may be a little light but time will tell. Just for giggles let us look at Alabama's schedule for 2014. west virgina, florida alantic, south. miss , florida ( 4-8 last year) , ole miss , arkansas , texas a&m , tennesse ( 3-9 last year ) lsu , miss. st. , west virgina and auburn . What maybe 4-5 at the most tough opponents there ? If they were to run the table this year will anybody be questioning their SOS ? I think not ! A smart program does not want to schedule a top contender every game . That is like signing your own death warrant . lets look at the pac 12 at seasons end. 3-4 quality teams , maybe 4 average teams and of course 3-4 awful teams count on it !

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    July 30, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    Yesterday we read an article about how BYU's schedule shouldn't be mocked because they play Boise State, Houston, Utah State and Texas. But that is 4 games out of 12. Also, although those 4 games are not gimmes; Boise State has faded the last couple of years despite their glossy record playing a weak schedule themselves. BYU pounded them and will do so again this year even @ Boise. Texas is the big name but they are a huge question mark with their new coaching staff. They have faded recently as well. Still they have big time athletes and size. If BYU played those opponents each week then we would see a lack of depth take its' toll. That is what Utah faces when playing weaker PAC 12 teams. You see, the PAC has strong medium and weak teams, but all are big and strong. Back to BYU, the other two teams are USU and Houston. Look, Houston could be a challenge but despite the barn burner last year, BYU really outplayed Houston except for kick off returns and 80 yard TDs. Plus the game is in Provo. To me, the only tough opponents for BYU this year are USU and Texas.

  • byualum69 Saratoga Springs, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    The U fans who post on the Y articles will love this. Last year the Y raised season ticket prices and created a "premium" portion of the end zones to do so. 5 rows into the premium section, I shrugged it off and gave my ISU tickets away to others who wanted to go. But there is a limit and this announcement hit for me. I won't be giving tickets away for the announced ISU home game in 2018 because I will no longer be a season ticket holder.

    My money will go instead to away games with value and interesting venues. RES does not fit that criteria, but South Bend does.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:35 p.m.

    byu fan pretending to be utesrulePac 12,

    We own you on the field and it doesn't do us any good to keep beating you year after year.

    We'd rather disassociate ourselves from you as you are a mid major and we've moved onto bigger and better things.

    Its better we play Fresno which is important for recruiting and then play other big boy teams like our home and home with Michigan.

    You guys desperately need to play us, since you barely can get 2-3 power conference games a years, with very few at home.

    WE don't need to play you, we can get a mid major whenever we want.

    Yes, it would help byU tremendously to continually play us.

    But we don't care that it helps you.

  • UtesRulePac12 Orem, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:25 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Funny!!!!

    Not too hard to schedule 9 teams when affiliated with a conference. Different story for an independent, particularly scheduling at the end of the season when conference races are on.

    Don't forget, we ran from this game for two years. Pretty bad when we won't schedule a team in our own backyard that are so-called "mid-major" because we need to play power teams.

    Probably ought to not say anything about their inability to schedule the big boys when we won't play them.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    July 30, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    @fan in orem

    "Be careful who you are making fun of. NIU has been to a BCS bowl more recently than any school around here"

    Yeah, and how did they do in their BCS bowl?

    NIU is a great example of how scheduling down is a great way to artificially inflate your ranking. When they finally played a decent team, they got boat raced.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 30, 2014 1:18 p.m.

    fan in orem:

    NIU "backed in" to the BCS...just like Hawai'i did back in 2007-08: ala undefeated season via weak SOS. They were not worthy, and that's why they got pounded by 3 TDs vs. Florida St.

    Johnny Triumph:

    Cougar fans keep trying to convince the fans of their big brother on the Hill that their jump from to indy-irrelevance wasn't a knee-jerk reaction. Even though it was. They claim they've been planning indy-irrelevance all along. Yet they also claim they only scheduled a slew of WAC teams because the jump was so sudden (aka, knee-jerk), and they needed time to build quality schedules.

    Except that NIU is scheduled for 2018 and 2020. That's 4-6 yrs out, and 8-10 yrs from declaring indy-irrelevance. How much time do the cougars need to schedule a "big boy" slate? And Idaho St? What was all that talk about the cougars being close to a deal with Penn State?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 30, 2014 1:16 p.m.

    RE: Chris B.

    "Why don't you guys just schedule home and homes with 8-9 power conference teams every year?"

    While your comment will probably get deleted for "spam" (you've said the same thing on dozens of other BYU articles), and while you probably don't want or expect a response to such a ridiculous question, I'll take a stab at it anyhow.

    BYU plays a schedule very similar to many other P5 teams. That would be 3-4 great teams, 3-4 average teams, and 3-4 bad teams. In an earlier post (that you mysteriously never responded to) I pointed out that BYU has actually averaged a SOS better than the current national champion FSU during the independent era. Just because all BYU's opponents aren't in P5 conferences doesn't mean they aren't quality opponents. Indeed, BYU has played 5-6 teams in the independent era who have played in BCS bowls more recently than Utah but aren't in P5 conferences.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 30, 2014 1:12 p.m.

    Come on! Let's give credit where credit id due. byU actually has a decent schedule for 2015, even with adding Idaho State. They only have one November game at home, but at least it's against Fresno State and not Savannah State.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 30, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    Taysom4Heisman:

    "Unlike Chris Hill who said that the schedule would be too hard to play Michigan and BYU in the same year and backed out of the game."

    Utah didn't "back out" of any game vs. our indy-irrelevant little brother. There were never games contracted for 2014 or 2015 to begin with. And furthermore, what's the difference between playing Fresno St. vs. the Y? I mean except for the part about how playing teams in/from California has greater recruiting benefits than doing so likewise with Utah teams. The cougars aren't a tougher opponent than the Bulldogs.

    "He understands that even though utah has beaten BYU recently, it is still a difficult game to win."

    Not more difficult than playing FSU. The Bulldogs have a better record against us than the cougars do.

    "You utah fans always say the game against BYU is an automatic win, but it's been super close almost every year."

    You cougar fans always say the game against our little brother down south is super close, but it's been practically and automatic win every year. When you go 9-3 vs. another team, then yeah, it's pretty much automatic.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 1:04 p.m.

    NIU is not a bad get. They've had better success in the BCS than BYU (i.e. they've been there, done that). Ironically NIU has a leg up on Big 12 expansion by bringing the Chicago market and since they are in the right time zone.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    I just got grief last night from a buddy of mine with BYU season tickets about the UTES playing Idaho State this year. Hey, whatever gets you to 6 wins right? Just want to see if he says something today about this quality pickup game.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    @Taysom4Heisman
    Utah's OOC for 2015 is Utah State, Fresno State, Michigan. Utah's not afraid of playing a bunch of decent teams.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:55 p.m.

    BYU fans:

    Why don't you guys just schedule home and homes with 8-9 power conference teams every year?

    You want to be considered a big boy right?

    100% of the big boys schedule 8-9 games against power conference teams.

    Why doesn't byU?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    July 30, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    Glad to see the series with NIU, yet another team on the schedule that has played in a BCS bowl in the last five years.

    While I'm less excited about ISU, I am glad they were able to even out the 2015 schedule by adding an additional home game. Bummer for fans who attend the home games because the home schedule has been and looks to continue to be horrible. Of course the schedule is great for those of us outside the mountain west who watch every game on national television and can attend many of the road games against great opponents.

  • fan in orem Orem, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:47 p.m.

    Be careful who you are making fun of. NIU has been to a BCS bowl more recently than any school around here.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:42 p.m.

    Why can't you schedule home/home (multiple times) with fellow independent ARMY? I always respected and enjoyed Utah's games against Air Force and Navy! And would feel the same about Army.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    So many Ute fans so few comments of value.

    NI may be bad in 2018 but USC/UCLA et al might be bad as well. BYU needed to fill holes in the schedule and these games did that.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:36 p.m.

    This is huge. I'm sure all the fans that attend the games are overjoyed by this announcement. I for one, can't wait to play ISU in four weeks. The crowd will be pumped.

    I actually do feel bad for the tens of thousands of season ticket holders that want big name opponents in the stadium at least half the time. Ask for a refund or free cotton candy.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    Chris B

    I don't really care if our 2015 P5 games are on the road. I'm not afraid to play anybody anywhere. Unlike Chris Hill who said that the schedule would be too hard to play Michigan and BYU in the same year and backed out of the game.

    You utah fans always say the game against BYU is an automatic win, but it's been super close almost every year. Sure, utah has won, but it is far from an automatic win. If it was, Hill easily would have been willing to schedule us these next 2 years. Unfortunately, he didn't have the guts to do it. He understands that even though utah has beaten BYU recently, it is still a difficult game to win.

  • RSL* Why, AZ
    July 30, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    Didn't USU beat their Heisman candidate quarterback last year at the bowl game. They seem to like using a high octane offense that can't beat a decent defense.

  • Cedarcreek320 Star Valley Ranch, WY
    July 30, 2014 12:16 p.m.

    With them added to the schedule, BCS here we come!

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    July 30, 2014 12:12 p.m.

    Wow, can't wait for both of these barn burners. I'll bet NBC will buy out the Cougs TV deal to broadcast these games.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    July 30, 2014 11:50 a.m.

    Good to see the schedule issues ironed out. Go Cougars!

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    July 30, 2014 11:42 a.m.

    Of course they won eleven games, they play in the mid America conference