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Published: Tuesday, July 29 2014 6:25 p.m. MDT

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David Haymond
Phoenix, AZ

A friend of mine, who is from Utah, told me to look at the interesting back and forth between BYU and Utah fans on this message board. Being an USC Alum and having most of my family being USC Alums, it is shocking to me to see how Utah fans view themselves, compared to the reality of how everyone else views them. We (the real PAC-10 members) view the Utah and Colorado additions to our conference as nothing more than consistent victories that add to our win column (which has proven out). Inviting Utah to join the Pac 10 is like when the good looking folks invite the fat girl with them to the bar……the fat girl (think Utah) makes the rest of the folks look better. There are a lot of PAC-10 alums in my office and they agree. The key for Utah is to stop the delusions that they are relevant and embrace their status as the fat girl….

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

Naval Vet, you're right that the Miami Beach bowl isn't very prestigious but apparently you haven't read up on how these new bowls work. The AAC, MAC, MWC, Sun Belt have formed a small bowl coalition to fill these new bowls in the Bahamas, Boca Raton, and Miami. The conferences will rotate teams each year between these bowls with the AAC being the "anchor" conference (according to ESPN). Because BYU was looking for a bowl agreement for 2014 they were able to get in on the inaugural bowl in Miami but there is no long term agreement with this coalition.

Most BYU fans will admit that the bowl situation hasn't been ideal since going independent but I think many (like myself) are relieved that they were able to get a bowl agreement for 2014 (it was really getting down to the wire). Hopefully we can get better bowl tie-ins in the future.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ David Haymond

It's interesting how many USC fans who happen to have a connection on to BYU come onto this board to weigh in on Utah.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

"BYU's academics are rated much higher than utah's."

And this comes from where? USNWR?? Fine. Go to USNWR and look at grad schools. byu is totally outclassed by USU and with Utah it isn't even a contest. What byu has is dirt cheap tuition. End of story.

We do many great things off the field. We are not only sports. Unfortunately, we weren't the type of institution the Pac 12 was looking for."

Really? The Pac-10 wanted research institutions...religion had nothing to do with it. How can byu be a a high enough caliber school if it can't meet the Pac-10 criteria for an invite?

I didn't ask you to compare two Michigan teams. I asked to you to tell this board how beating a bad Michigan team (6-5) in 1984 is any more note worthy that Utah's victory in 2008.

AZBlue
Gilbert, AZ

"UteinIdaho"

Your logic is lacking. The ONLY reason the SEC, ACC, and other "Big 5"/"Power 5" conferences do not want to include BYU in their figuring is PURELY FINANCIAL. If they require their fellow Big 5's to only play other Big 5's then the TV revenue for every game stays in in the Big 5. If you play anyone outside the Big 5 then at least a chunk (up to half) of that game's revenue will go to another school/conference.

Not that hard to understand. I expect the next big move of the Big 5 will be to restructure their existing conferences to balance the numbers of teams in each conference -- which could include eliminating one conference.... 4 conferences of 16 teams each = 64 teams --- the current number of teams in the Big 5. Of course, that would leave out Notre Dame, which is unthinkable (no joke intended). So....

Just the FAX
Olympus Cove, Utah

Naval Vet

"We got into the P5 because Utah and TCU were ranked #1 and #2 in non-AQ teams beating BCS level teams."

Don't kid yourself.

Do you really think that the PAC 10 was so naive that a couple of flash-in-the-pan seasons is all that it took to convince them that Utah was a power conference level program?

The truth is, Utah happened to be the best available, research-oriented, non-religiously based program within close proximity of the PAC 10 television footprint.

Nothing more.

4-5, 3-6, 2-7 proves that Utah wasn't invited to the PAC because they expected the Utes to actually be competitive with the big boys of the conference.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Some facts to digest;

* BYU is the only Utah team to win a national championship
* BYU wins more then half their games
* In recent years, BYU has defeated Oklahoma, Oregon, Arizona, and Texas.
* In the past seven years, BYU has played in more bowl games then any other Utah team.
* BYU has more television coverage then all other Utah teams combined.

Hmm? BYU is the University of Utah.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

David Haymond
Phoenix, AZ

Nice sentiment from a byu fan. I share these comments with colleagues from USC as well. They don't understand why byu fans think everyone wants to be like them. They believe Utah fans should just ignore byu. Tough to do with the envy byu has toward the Utes and 40 miles of Interstate.

I work with a lot of Pac-10 alums and welcome the Utes to the fold.

Interesting, isn't it.

David Haymond
Phoenix, AZ

To MyPerspective:

I don't know anything about envy that BYU has towards Utah so I can't comment on that. Maybe that is the case, I just haven't followed.

Regarding your following comment, "I work with a lot of Pac-10 alums and welcome the Utes to the fold", that was my entire point. We welcome you because you lose. Remember, the fat girl gets invited to the bar with the good-looking kids. She didn't crash the party, she was invited. We invited you to our party.....just stop fooling yourself that you are one of the good-looking kids. By the way, maybe you are better than BYU because they are going stag to the bar (or maybe aren't going at all), but they don't appear as delusions as you all.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

"They believe Utah fans should just ignore BYU"

LOL!

Utah fans are obsessed with BYU. In fact, the only time they even talk about their own team is when they're comparing Utah to BYU.

It's what little brothers do.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Just the FAX:

"Do you really think that the PAC 10 was so naive that a couple of flash-in-the-pan seasons is all that it took to convince them that Utah was a power conference level program?"

Utah was invited to join the Pac-10 back in June of 2010. By that time, the BCS just completed its 12 season. Twelve years = a couple of flash-in-the-pan seasons? That's 10 winning seasons, 9 consecutive bowl wins (to 0 bowl losses), and more wins over BCS league opponents than any other non-AQ school.

Nope. Not "flash-in-the-pan".

"The truth is, Utah happened to be the best available, research-oriented, non-religiously based program within close proximity of the PAC 10 television footprint."

Religion had nothing to do with it. You made that up. You can't say, "The truth is...", then follow that up with a lie. Don't kid YOURself.

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID

My, my, my. It seem that some of our friends from the local P-5 college are sure obsessed by all things BYU. We thank you for your interest and concern in our schedule. However, you may want to direct some of that obsession to your P-5 team. Back-to-back records of 5-7 is rather discouraging. Is it possible that your team is really nothing more than a mid-major playing over its head in a P-5 conference? Kinda looks that way.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID

"My, my, my. It seem that some of our friends from the local P-5 college are sure obsessed by all things BYU. We thank you for your interest and concern in our schedule."

And Utah fans want to thank you all for the continuous stream of lies and misrepresentations that bring us to the byu boards. The entertainment value of absolutely off the charts.

Rise and pout...

holy moly
Herrmian, UT

@Chris B

Wrong. First of all, I am not BYU and second of all your "NONE of us think you are P5 quality" statement is ignorant and annoying.

Perhaps you should read the Des News article titled: "Arizona vice president of athletics Greg Byrne considers BYU a Power 5 opponent."

You ask "What reason would those conferences not have to call byu p5 quality, if they thought byu was?". In a nutshell, the SEC would be admitting the PAC-12 is playing tougher competition. I'm not talking about 1 or 2 games as you indicate in your post. BYU has 18+ future games scheduled with PAC-12 teams. The SEC has far fewer.

I appreciate different opinions, but yours wear on me. Mostly because they are belittling and expose your prejudice. I understand the rivalry drives this in some people on both sides, but for the life of me, I can't understand why putting people down makes some people happy. Its a character trait I mostly associate with adolescent bullies. A trait I never want to have.

DuckInSLC
Sandy, UT

David Haymond:
"There are a lot of PAC-10 alums in my office and they agree. The key for Utah is to stop the delusions that they are relevant and embrace their status as the fat girl…."

Well speak for yourself Trojan. I also know many PAC12 fans having just moved her from Eugene. I don't share your assessment of Utah. It is my humble opinion that Utah will be more competitive in the near future as they build their program. I also think eventually the money and recruiting will help Colorado. Fight On!...through those scholy restrictions and probations.

As for the animosity in this rivalry, I agree it's crazy. I never thought it was this heated before moving here. I respect BYU and think they have a quality program. I also think BYU success helps Utah and vice versa so why they hate each other so much, who knows. But Utah deserves to be here, so lose the fat girl jokes.

mufasta
American Fork, UT

All this discussion as to whether BYU is a "P5" program is funny. That will shake itself out in the future based on how we play. We have good recruits and a good coach. It is not a situation we are in control of but we are doing the best job we can given the position we are in. I personally like being independent as I like playing teams from all over the country. I know I will get mocked for that comment by everyone here that knows everything I should know but I do like going to the games in different parts of the country and meeting BYU fans and new opponent fans. I personally think it is an exciting time to be a cougar. Go Cougs!

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

David Haymond
Phoenix, AZ

"I don't know anything about envy that BYU has towards Utah so I can't comment on that. Maybe that is the case, I just haven't followed."

Then you shouldn't be in the middle of a discussion between byu and Utah fans. Utah's membership in the Pac-12 is enviable to byu which is the point, here, on local media boards. byu fans spin some mighty tall tales to explain their standing in CFB. That is the focus of these discussions.

Utah fans are well are of the Utes' pathetic record in the Pac-12 and where we stand. Again, the discussions in local media between Utah and byu fans have nothing to with Pac-12 teams. You colleague has done a dis-service to you by suggesting otherwise.

btw...it is disappointing to see that type of comment from a USC alum. I was under the impression USC fans were classier than that.

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Another nightmare article for the Ute fans. They wake up and go straight to the Deseret News Sports section. Click on BYU, not on their Utes. See that BYU is getting some more kudos from someone who knows sports, politically and on the field.

Then they have to defend their insecurity for 3+ pages. No, they're not the lil' brother at all. BYU is. lol.

Thanks Mr. Aresco for voicing what most of college football already knows. BYU is big time.

Go Cougs!

IndeMak
South Jordan, UT

AAC Commissioner Mike Aresco: 'We're proud that our teams are playing BYU'

What else is he supposed to say. When none of the large programs want to schedule BYU or the AAC, there is nobody else but each other and "pride" is all we got.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: MyPerspective

"Then you shouldn't be in the middle of a discussion between byu and Utah fans."

He wasn't. He was in the middle of a discussion between BYU fans and BYU haters (i.e. trolls). And there's a difference between "Utah's membership in the Pac-12" which many BYU fans probably do thing would be nice, and "envy of Utah" which implies we'd like to be the doormat of the PAC12. I don't know a single BYU fan who is envious of Utah's position within the PAC12.

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