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Published: Tuesday, July 29 2014 6:25 p.m. MDT

Updated: Tuesday, July 29 2014 6:53 p.m. MDT

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WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah

So far, there's scant evidence that Utah is anything more than cannon fodder for the true P5 caliber members of the PAC 12.

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Interesting. I'm sure every ranked team that has beat BYU the past several years is thinking the very same thing.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah
wacpaddled

"I'm sure they are tired of being asked about BYU and their quest for recognition."

I'm absolutely certain they're not nearly as tired as BYU fans are of having to put up with the constant spamming of every BYU article by our little brothers in their quest for recognition.

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Calling all AAC fans!
Calling any AAC fans!
Are there any here?

Whatever.

Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

@Naval Vet

"One doesn't become P5 because they can beat a bunch of other weak SOS midmajors."

Well that's exactly how utah and TCU got into the P5, so yeah, it kind of is how you get in. I know utah won one big game in the Sugar Bowl (don't try to count the Fiesta Bowl as a big win), but that's it. The Michigan game didn't count either. That was arguably their worst season in history. utah fed off of a weak schedule and won a couple decent games against BYU and TCU. The years where BYU was a great team (2006, 2007, 2009) we beat utah. utah only beat us in the years where it wasn't as much of an impressive win. It was still solid, but not great.

So, contrary to your theory, you can very much get into the P5 by dominating "a bunch of other weak SOS midmajors. You just need to throw in 1 or 2 bigger wins, which we have the opportunity to do.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

Wow... A tough pill to swallow for the Cougar haters from uteville...

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Chris B

You don't speak for the P5 conferences. Settle down.

@ 32843

Bleacher Report is not a credible media outlet. Their entire content is made up of opinions of bloggers who are essentially fans of their team/sport they are writing about.

AFCoug
Colorado Springs, CO

I like BYU's relationship with the AAC. I would love to get a scheduling agreement with them to play 4 games every year. The AAC has replaced the MWC as the best non-P5 conferance. They are as good or better than the MWC in basketball with UCONN, Memphis, Cinnci. If they could expand to 14 teams and include Boise St, BYU and San Diego they would rival any P5 conferance! I know some may laugh at this comment but besides the top 2-3 teams of each conferance the remaining schools are mediocre and ride the coat tails of the larger schools. Does anyone really think that Iowa St, Northwestern, Kentucky, Duke, Washington St, Colorado, or Utah really have an opportunity to win a NC? Sure their access is greater but that is it. All the talk about being a P5 school is just that, talk. Only way Utah ever wins it all is going undefeated. Guess what, if BYU, UCONN, UCF, Boise St, etc go undefeated they likley win the NC as well under the new system. Would an undefeated non-P5 school be in the top 4 at the end of the year? Win out and they are the NC.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

Well that's exactly how utah and TCU got into the P5, so yeah, it kind of is how you get in...So, contrary to your theory, you can very much get into the P5 by dominating "a bunch of other weak SOS midmajors. You just need to throw in 1 or 2 bigger wins, which we have the opportunity to do."

Actually, Taysom, that's NOT how Utah got into the P5. Utah qualified themselves on the field but their invitation was solidified in the elite Pac-12 off the field. An opportunity byu doesn't have because the school has been about nothing but sports for decades.

Here's a question for you, Taysom...apparently you dislike that fact that Utah beat a weak Michigan team in 2008. Please explain to this board your sentiment of byu beating an equally weak, if not weaker Michigan team that had absolutely NO CHANCE of being named the NC in 1984 had they won the game.

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID

Good to see that our friends from Iowa State, errr, Utah are still interested in BYU to the point that not only do they read articles about BYU - they take the time to comment on articles about BYU. Hopefully the Cyclones, errr, Utes can make it to a bowl game this year..

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

65TossPowerTrap
Salmon, ID
Good to see that our friends from Iowa State, errr, Utah are still interested in BYU to the point that not only do they read articles about BYU - they take the time to comment on articles about BYU. Hopefully the Cyclones, errr, Utes can make it to a bowl game this year..

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That Cougar win over Texas played up by BYU fans does not look so great. Iowa St. has beat them as well.
Hopefully BYU will beat a ranked team this season errr, attempt to compete on the field.

BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado.
BYU is 6-11 all time against San Jose St.

Yay!

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

Blah blah blah again.

Thanks, Ute fans for my morning dish of drivel.

All BYU has to do is win.

Forget about childish rivals and their naive opinions. I'm sure they don't really believe the drivel they write. But I'm pretty sure they hope it's true.

Prove them wrong, Cougars.

Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

@UteinIdaho

"I know you have to hide it, but you must realize. If the SEC considered the cougs a P5 opponent it would actually help their conference. Their new rule says that each team has to play a certain number of OOC P5 teams. If they considered BYU a P5 team, that would equate to a relativaley easy win against a "P5" team, which would be beneficial to the conference?"

No, it wouldn't help them. The SEC hardly ever schedules BYU, so if they considered BYU a P5 team, it would make the Pac 12, and, to a lesser extent, the Big 12 and ACC, have tougher schedules. It would hardly do anything for the SEC because we rarely play them.

Also, I don't know how BYU would be an easier win than about half of the P5 teams out there. We have won our last 2 games against SEC opponents. Sure, those teams were towards the bottom of the SEC, but still, we have proven that we are at least better than the bottom of the conference, and would probably be competitive with the middle of the conference.

Little Pete
South Jordan, UT

Too bad the Utes are P5 and BYU isn't! Just look at the schedule we play week in and week out and our record proves just how tough the PAC 12 is!

Go Pac 12!!

Go Utes - Rose Bowl Champs this year baby!

Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

@MyPerspective

"An opportunity byu doesn't have because the school has been about nothing but sports for decades."

BYU's academics are rated much higher than utah's. We do many great things off the field. We are not only sports. Unfortunately, we weren't the type of institution the Pac 12 was looking for. They wanted a non-religious research school. We are a high enough caliber of school, but we weren't the type of school they wanted.

"apparently you dislike that fact that Utah beat a weak Michigan team in 2008. Please explain to this board your sentiment of byu beating an equally weak, if not weaker Michigan team..."

Comparing the 1984 Michigan team to the 2008 team is ridiculous. The 1984 team made a bowl game and would have played in the Big 10 title game with a win over Ohio State. The 2008 team went 3-9 and is widely regarded as the worst Michigan team ever.

P.S. We also beat Pittsburgh and Air Force in 1984, 2 of the better teams in the country that year.

TheHobbit
Bountiful, UT

@Taysom4QB:

"P.S. We also beat Pittsburgh and Air Force in 1984, 2 of the better teams in the country that year."

Pitt finished the regular season 3-7-1 and unranked.
A.F. finshed the regular season 7-4 (with one of those losses to Utah) but still unranked.

It is pretty clear that neither team was one "of the better teams in the country that year."

BigCougFan
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I've been getting a kick out of Chris B and his "We" talk about "We" are P5, and "We" have our own playoff. What he's forgetting is that just because the U belongs to a P5 conference doesn't really mean they are a P5 school.

I've yet to see the U play a P5 caliber game against their P5 opponents. At best they are still a mid-major team playing in a P5 conference, as opposed to BYU, a mid major independent playing against an assortment of P5 and mid-major teams. Not too much difference except that the independent team has been going bowling and the other has not.

It's always fun to watch the chest bumping going on in the little leagues.

GO COUGARS!!

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

Trolls, would you consider Florida State a P5 team or a mid-major? One might argue that because they were ranked #1 last season were the consensus national champions that they are indeed a P5-caliber team. Nope. Not according to your logic.

Last season FSU’s strength of schedule was ranked #62 in the country (BYU was #38). In 2012 it was #66 (BYU was #63). In 2011 they were ranked #68 (BYU #90)… so in BYU’s independent era BYU has had a SOS better than FSU (#64 to #65).

Well, it’s the week in, week out grind, right? SOS is SOS no matter how you spin it. BYU has been playing an ACC (not AAC) caliber schedule since going independent. If they are playing schedules on par with the current national champions it's hard to discount what they accomplish without throwing several P5 teams under the bus (national champs included).

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I think I see a pattern here. The conferences BYU want to join are not expanding and probably wouldn't take BYU if they were. Meanwhile the conferences BYU is not interested in are not expanding either. Can we get fall camp underway so there is something resembling real news again?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Taysom4Heisman:

"Well that's exactly how utah and TCU got into the P5, so yeah, it kind of is how you get in."

No, that's not how your big brothers -- Utah and TCU -- got into the P5. We got into the P5 because Utah and TCU were ranked #1 and #2 in non-AQ teams beating BCS level teams. Both of us had winning records, and were the winningest teams in that regard. No other midmajor had a winning record vs. BCS schools, and the 3rd winningest team -- Navy -- was far behind Utah and TCU with respect to beating those AQ schools.

Again, we got into the Power 5 by beating "big boy" programs; not "small ball" programs. You guys are feasting on "small ball". So you'll be midmajors forever.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

BigCougFan:

"I've yet to see the U play a P5 caliber game against their P5 opponents."

Which Utah games had you been watching?

Utah went 8-5 in 2011, and beat Pitt, Ore St, Ariz, UCLA, Wash St, and Ga Tech in the Sun Bowl, and lost close games vs. USC and Colo. That's 8 "P5 caliber" games vs. P5 opponents right there.

In 2012, Utah beat Cal, Wash St, and Colo. So there's 3.

In 2013, Utah beat #11 Stanford and Colo, and lost close games vs. Ore St, #16 UCLA, and #21 Ariz St. So there's another 5.

That's 16 total. If you truly had "yet to see" Utah play P5 football, it's because you have yet to see Utah play football. Other than to see us annually manhandle your indy-irrelevant program on the field of course, but that doesn't really count as us playing a P5 opponent.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

CougarSunDevil:

"Wait, I thought BYU burned the bridge with the AAC."

They DID burn that bridge. You didn't read Mike Aresco saying they were interested in on the cougars joining their league, did you? Because I didn't. Just because they set up a "small ball" bowl game in Miami for the end of the 2014 season, that doesn't mean they want anything more to do with you. Don't forget....the AAC approached C-USA to play in that bowl game before they settled for you. Do cougar fans believe C-USA > the Y? Because if not, then why did they first approach them while knowing full well the cougars were seeking a postseason agreement?

Burnt bridge perhaps?

It seems to me that AAC had to come to terms with their only options being the MAC, the Sun Belt, and the Y.

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