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Published: Tuesday, July 29 2014 6:25 p.m. MDT

Updated: Tuesday, July 29 2014 6:53 p.m. MDT

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Taysom4Heisman
Heber City, UT

Not surprising that the non-P5 conference says BYU is a P5 level program but the ACC and SEC say BYU isn't.

I don't know how many times an article will have to be posted or how many times I need to say this before everyone understands the big picture here: We are a P5 caliber program, but the P5 is politically trying to separate themselves from the non P5's. So of course they will say we aren't at that level.

Even if we made the College Football Playoff, the SEC wouldn't consider us a P5 school, because that takes away everything the scheduling rule is designed to do: separate from anyone outside the P5.

It's not that hard to understand. If you read between the lines, that is basically what every single one of these types of articles is really saying.

holy moly
Herrmian, UT

PAC-12 coaches have called BYU a P5 talent. ACC and SEC have not. I believe this is political. Calling BYU P5 competition benefits PAC schools because they play BYU more often. Why say someone is good when distance dictates you will not play them frequently.

If BYU's campus was in Florida, the ACC and SEC would claim BYU was a power competitor and the PAC would probably say they were not. Its just a bunch of posturing. The ACC probably wants them to be considered a power opponent because they're playing them and they're in the same boat as BYU in regards to being in the have-not camp.

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

Kudos to the AAC commissioner for recognizing that BYU is a P5 caliber school regardless of what the ACC and SEC thinks. For me personally, I don't really care if the whole world considers us a non P5 mid major team. I only care that we win out whatever schedule we're able to put together year in and year out. Do that and eventually things will work out and respect will come and hard to be denied.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

At first I thought byu had gotten a huge endorsement from the prestigious ACC

But the realized it was just WAC level AAC.

Taysom,

Byu and all other mid majors will have to set up your own playoffs if you ever want to dream of playing in them.

We(power conferecnes) have our own playoff.

Yours will be division II

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Taysom4Heisman:

"I don't know how many times an article will have to be posted or how many times I need to say this before everyone understands the big picture here: We are a P5 caliber program, but the P5 is politically trying to separate themselves from the non P5's."

I don't know how many times Y fans have to be told, or by how many different Power 5 leagues, but the reason why you're considered a midmajor...

...is because you ARE a midmajor.

It can't be said any plainer than that. It isn't "political". It's who you are.

UTEP, Western Michigan, and pretty much nearly every opponent on your weak SOS schedule, are all midmajors. The P5 isn't holding them back either. It isn't "political". It's who THEY are.

If the Y wants to be a Power 5 school, they need to act like one. And for as long as you all continue to put out schedules like 2011, 2012, 2014, and 2015, you'll NOT be acting like one. One doesn't become P5 because they can beat a bunch of other weak SOS midmajors.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

It's interesting that Mike Aresco claimed that the AAC is "proud" to play the Y, since the first league they offered that partnership to was C-USA. Who declined it. It looks like the AAC was in panic mode. With no C-USA team to line up against, Aresco was staring down the barrel of an alignment with the MAC or the Sun Belt. Luckily the cougars had no postseason tie-in, and were equally desperate. A match made in heaven.

Anyway, I'm not sure "proud" is the correct word to describe the AAC's agreement with the Y. I think a more apropos term would be "relieved".

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

This would be a HUGE agreement....if we were talking basketball

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@holy moly,

Not true. If there was reason for the Pac 12 to call byu p5 quality(which we haven't) there would be reason for the ACC and SEC to do so also, as they also play byu once in a while.

Even if a conference plays byu less than other conferences, that wouldn't mean the team that plays byu less woulnt have the same reasons to call them power 5 quality. What reason would those conferences not have to call byu p5 quality, if they thought byu was?

You make it sound like if a conference plays byu only once a year then they don't have incentive to call byu p5 quality but if a conference plays them twice a year then they do? That's nonsense.

We(the power conferences) call it like we see it.

And NONE of us think you are P5 quality.

And NO, the Pac 12 never said byu was P5 quality.

Challenge to the Foe
Fargo, ND

BYU is poised to do more damage than perhaps any other "non-P5" school. I agree with the others who have said the ACC, SEC and PAC are all politically positioning themselves. BYU will be the surprise team in the CFB Playoff era which begins with UCONN 1 month from now!

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Wait, I thought BYU burned the bridge with the AAC. That's what the Utah fans are saying. You mean the Utah fans are wrong? How could that be?

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

T4H "We are a P5 caliber program".
I respect your theory, and would love to see the theory tested out against a P5 schedule.

32843
PROVO, UT

You can say what you want about BYU not being a P5 team. Bleacher Report has run two columns, Predicting Every Power 5 Team's MVP and Every Power-5 Conference Team's Biggest Concern Heading into Fall Camp. Each of these columns highlight 67 of the 120+ teams in D1. BYU is included in each of these articles as being considered a Power-5 team.

Accept it. Don't accept it. UTE fans are really the only people that don't want it to be true and be forced to admit that a great many of the national media believe BYU does, indeed, belong in the P-5 conversation.

What has to be galling to Ute fans is that BYU is able to garner this national respect as an Independent. They don't have to ride a conference's coattails in order to included in the P-5 conversation among the national media. Unlike Utah who is only included in the P-5 discussion solely as the result of belonging to the PAC-12. Outside of that conference, Utah would be on the outside looking in.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

Not too surprising that my BYU-obsessed little sister and her friends have spammed another BYU article.

The tide is turning and conference commissioners and other college football experts who aren't forced to play politics are beginning to recognize BYU as the power program they are and have been for since the late 70's.

ute alumni
SLC, UT

chrissy
who is the "we" that you refer to?

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Last time I checked, BYU is not the only non conference opponent for schools in some of these conferences. I'm sure they are tired of being asked about BYU and their quest for recognition.

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah

SoonerUte

"I respect your theory, and would love to see the theory tested out against a P5 schedule."

Before Utah was invited to join the PAC 12, we heard lots of talk about Utah being able to compete with "anybody"

So, what does 4-5, 3-6, 2-7, with 2 of 3 losing bowl less seasons tell you about Utah being a "P5 caliber" program?

So far, there's scant evidence that Utah is anything more than cannon fodder for the true P5 caliber members of the PAC 12.

AZBlue
Gilbert, AZ

Interesting how every ranking I have yet seen for 2014 (I think I am up to 6 now) puts BYU ahead of at least half of the "Power 5" schools. The earlier comment hat this all political and especially FINANCIAL posturing. Allowing any more teams into the "Power 5" would require splitting the pie into more pieces. And everyone knows that $20 million each is not a big enough slice as it is, right Big 12?

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah

wacpaddled

"I'm sure they are tired of being asked about BYU and their quest for recognition."

I'm absolutely certain they're not nearly as tired as BYU fans are of having to put up with the constant spamming of every BYU article by our little brothers in their quest for recognition.

dww722
North Salt Lake, UT

@SoonerUte:

Anybody can play a power 5 conference schedule and get beat like a drum. Just ask the Utes if inclusion in a P5 conference and playing that schedule means you're any good. The paycheck is nice though so you have that going for you.

Here's the facts:

BYU was the FIRST (and only) team outside the power conferences to bust the system and win the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP....a feat that at least 45 of 65 "power conference" teams have NEVER done... including: Arizona, Arizona St, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon St, Washington St and UTAH of the mighty PAC12. Those 8 teams must be the "WE" that Chris B. talks about so often.

No matter what Chris B. says BYU cemented its legacy as a power team with that championship and it will always trump Utah's BCS bowls and PAC12 membership. Sorry guys

UteinIdaho
Sandpoint, ID

I am dumbfounded. A league that, just a year ago, was a "big 6" BCS league, who is now scrambling to regain any sort of credibility that they possibly can has their conference commish coming out and saying that their fellow, formerly respected(30 years ago) BYU cougs should be considered P5 worthy. Weird...

@Taysome4runningback

Even if we made the College Football Playoff, the SEC wouldn't consider us a P5 school, because that takes away everything the scheduling rule is designed to do: separate from anyone outside the P5.

I know you have to hide it, but you must realize. If the SEC considered the cougs a P5 opponent it would actually help their conference. Their new rule says that each team has to play a certain number of OOC P5 teams. If they considered BYU a P5 team, that would equate to a relativaley easy win against a "P5" team, which would be beneficial to the conference?

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