Lifelong Lies,I invite anyone to Google SOS for the Utes back in their
historic and past glory days. They were at the absolute bottom 5 of the
SOS list. Some have them 1-5 from the bottom of the list. They did NOT have a
tough schedule in 2004. Don't take my work for it - I invite ya'll to
check the facts. Lifelong is in some denial. Sorry about the Utes but their
glory days have come and gone. Enjoy the Pac 12th!
Lifelong Ute:Give it a rest. You are the one that said Utah's SOS was
top 50 for both 2004 & 2008. Wiscougar called you on it and now you're
trying to deflect by emphasizing another part of your argument. He made good
points about the fact that even with a weak SOS you have opportunities to prove
yourself. He complimented Utah's players on doing just that in 2004 and
2008 when Utah's SOS was weak. Let it go. I love stories like
this about athletes that are coming off injury. I think sometimes we take this
for granted, but athletes feel firsthand what it's like to work so hard and
fight that isolation and lack of belonging that injury produces. Good for this
kid, I hope he has a great year.
Thrilled to have Jordan back... He was a real force 2 years ago and if he's
100% this year he could be a very special player. I think that he was and can be
one of the best Corners that the Cougs have had.
Solomon ,My point was quite obvious. BYU players
including Johnson do not have many opportunities to truly prove how good they
are since they are playing one of the worst schedules in the nation. Where did
you get lost?
Lifelong Ute, you are in the bottom of a pit. Put the shovel down. The article
is about a courageous athlete, and several of your peers had the decency to pay
their respects and save the smack for the 30th Anniversary articles.Look and learn.
This whole SOS trumpeting is silly. It is like throwing 500 lbs on the bar in
the gym and telling everyone to look how much you have on the bar. Big Whoop.
Can you lift that much? Or are you going to throw out your back and be on the
couch for the third time in a row come bowl season?
Lifelong Ute"Utah's SOS for 2004 and 2008 were BOTH better
than BYU's projected SOS for 2014."And BYU's 2013
schedule was MUCH better than either of Utah's 2004 and 2008 schedules.So what's your point?Only at a school where
they're no longer capable of qualifying for a bowl would they try to make a
big deal out of "projected" SOS's.
@Wiscougar,Utah's SOS for 2004 and 2008 were BOTH better than
byu's projected SOS for 2014. Its really not that complicated. So your
counter doesn't really hold up when Utah's 2004 and 2008 were BETTER
than byu's SOS.
Lifelong Ute,I'm not following your logic. I think the case
you're trying to make is that BYU football players will have few chances to
prove themselves in 2014 based on BYU's weak SOS. My counter
argument is that SOS alone doesn't shut down opportunities for individual
players to prove themselves. My supporting evidence shows that Utah's
players from 2004 and 2008 (both years with weak SOS) did indeed have
opportunities to prove themselves. Also, BYU is playing several respected teams
(five opponents have played in BCS bowls recently). I can also add
that most of BYU's games will be on national television. I can also add
that as P5 outsiders BYU will be under even greater scrutiny this season, which
should also give players opportunities to prove themselves. So, why
is it again that BYU players will have few opportunities to prove themselves?
Lifelong UteShow me a team on Utah's 2004 schedule that was
anywhere close to as good as Texas is projected to be in 2014.
Wiscougar,You asked if none of Utah's players in 2004 or 2008
got a chance to prove themselves after I stated that byu players wont get many
chances to prove themselves. So unless you can show us where
Utah's 2004 and 2008 SOS were worse than byu's projected SOS for this
year, your comment doesn't really hold up. And even if you could, I
clearly said they wont have many chances to prove themselves - never said
none.So can you show us where byu's SOS for this coming year is
ranked better than Utah's 2004 or 2008?
Lifelong Ute"BYU's SOS was recently ranked 98 in the
nation..."First of all, SOS only ranks overall schedule, it
doesn't say anything about the strength of individual teams on that
schedule.Second, NOBODY knows exactly how the season is going to
play out, so NOBODY could possibly know how strong BYU's schedule will
actually be by season's end.
Injuries are a part of sports.However, it is so sad to read
about/see someone who has worked so hard have to start nearly all over again due
to an injury.Good luck to the young man as he continues with his
RE: Lifelong Ute"BYU's SOS was recently ranked 98 in the
nation, of 120 teams that play division I football.When Utah went
undefeated in 2004 an 2008 our strength of schedule was top 50 both
years."According to who? When I googled SOS for Utah's
2004/2008 seasons I found #70/80 (Sports reference), #67/56 (Sagarin rankings),
#98/76 (College Football Poll). These were the first three search results I
found. I could keep digging but why don't you just tell us your sources.
I don't doubt that by seasons end (when you can actually determine a SOS)
BYU's rank for this season will be among the worst in the entire nation,
but that doesn't change a thing about my earlier post.
@Wiscougarfan,BYU's SOS was recently ranked 98 in the nation,
of 120 teams that play division I football.When Utah went undefeated in
2004 an 2008 our strength of schedule was top 50 both years.
RE: Lifelong Ute"He's not going to have too many chances to
prove himself this year, with byu's schedule being among the worst in the
entire nation."You're kidding right? Do you have to play
teams like Texas and Boise State every week to be able to "prove
yourself"? BYU's SOS is lower than average this season but we're
still playing five teams that have played in BCS bowls more recently than Utah.
Also, did none of the 2004 or 2008 Utes get a chance to "prove
themeselves"? I think they did alright, they played in significant bowls,
many got drafted, and all while playing a "schedule among the worst in the
He's not going to have too many chances to prove himself this year, with
byu's schedule being among the worst in the entire nation. But coming back
from a bad injury, he's probably just happen to be playing anyone This is
an attitude they're going to have to have in Provo.
i'm excited to see Johnson and Trammel back from their knee injuries, could
be a really good secondary
Good morning, Ute fans! Pleasure to have you on board this morning. Appreciate
the graciousness toward a man who has obviously been through the ringer and is
trying to come out on top.
It wasn't too long ago that an ACL tear was a career ender. Sounds like a
great job by BYU's sports med. team.Good luck to Mr. Johnson
Good luck to the young man for a great come back season.
Jordon, best of luck on your senior year! so glad to have you back.
Love it when players come back from bad injuries. Hope he has a great season.
We are looking forward to the UCONN opener too. We got our tix and we
aren't as close s the Johnson's (we will drive 2 hours), but we are
stoked to see our Cougs. I haven't been to a game since I moved to New