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Published: Saturday, July 26 2014 6:55 p.m. MDT

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Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

Back in '84

I Bleed Blue
Las Vegas, NV

Here goes the Deseret News again throwing chum into the water looking for the sharks to bite. First an article on BYU and Utah being tied together and now another reminder to the Utah fan base of something they seriously can now only dream about. They may never get to a Rose Bowl let alone win a national championship. Oh well, at least Utah has that scoreboard with the Fiesta Bowl and Sugar Bowl BCS banners. Kinda like the Jazz hanging up the Western Conference NBA Champions banner twice a few years ago. It just screams impressive.

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

BYU 1984 was loaded with exceptional players, but the thing that made them stand out from every other BYU team in history, is their dogged determination not to lose to anybody.

Time and time again, at Pittsburgh, at Air Force, at Hawaii, and versus Michigan, BYU pulled victory from the jaws of defeat.

That dogged determination was exemplified by Bosco, who lead BYU to a comeback win over Michigan, on an injured leg that he could barely stand on.

eagle
Provo, UT

I think it's real cool that the Y went undefeated and the Utes did as well twice. Why does one's success have to detract from the other. Pretty amazing stuff...

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

I Bleed Blue
Las Vegas, NV

.....Oh well, at least Utah has that scoreboard with the Fiesta Bowl and Sugar Bowl BCS banners. Kinda like the Jazz hanging up the Western Conference NBA Champions banner twice a few years ago. It just screams impressive.

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Oh well, at least BYU can indirectly admit that independence is not working. And keep dropping hints about joining the BIG 12.

Manfred Man
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes, back in 1984 indeed. Where are the recent accomplishments? That national championship was won on the 96th ranked strength of schedule by the way.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Part 1

BYU had the fortune of playing at a time when the power conferences weren't prepared to deal with a scenario where the only undefeated team in the country would come from a non-power conference. BYU benefited from playing a weak schedule of mostly average WAC teams as well as barely beating a 6-6 Michigan in a minor bowl. BYU won the national championship, in essence, by default. After this, those in power made changes to their system to never allow this to happen again.

Utah, in 2004, defeated 4 teams from power conferences, and ended up going undefeated. They never had a close game, including the Fiesta Bowl rout of Pittsburgh by 28 points. In 2008 Utah's feat was more impressive. Besides again going undefeated and again defeating 4 teams from power conferences, they defeated an Alabama team that had been ranked #1 in the country for a month and a half. In fact, Florida, the supposed national champions, ended up beating Alabama by fewer points than did Utah. And Florida had one loss already.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Part 2

But because of BYU's situation in 1984, it was impossible for Utah to be awarded the national championship in 2008. Those people in power made sure that a team from a non-power conference would never repeat the scenario that BYU fortunately found themselves in. Utah had, in every way, proven they deserved to be #1, as they, like BYU in 1984, were the only undefeated team in the country at the end of the year.

But, for the BYU fans who will come onto this post and say that Utah has never achieved what BYU has, this is blatantly untrue. A person who truly understands college football will agree that Utah's accomplishments have been greater.

sammyg
Springville, UT

gored

A crystal trophy, the continuing media respect that BYU garners because of it and what Lavell Edwards accomplished begs to differ.

Yours and others debating it only confirms the continued bitterness and the never-ending jealousy of not having one.

Slap a 2014 sticker on your PAC12 participation banner.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

gored

A big picture comparison:

There are two iconic trophies representing the ultimate individual and team achievement in major college football - the Heisman Trophy and the Crystal Football National Championship Trophy.

Both such trophies are displayed proudly in BYU's Legacy Hall of Fame. The Utes have never gotten close to winning either.

In 1984, BYU spent 7 weeks ranked #1 in the AP and Coaches polls, from November 20th until the Final polls of the season. Utah has never come close to being ranked #1 in either poll.

BYU has been a perennial Top 25 football program since 1977. Utah didn't even crack the AP Top 25 until 1994.

BYU has been ranked in AP Poll: 11 Times (Preseason), 17 Times (Final), 236 Weeks (Total)
Utah has been ranked in AP Poll: 2 Times (Preseason), 5 Times (Final), 77 Weeks (Total)

BYU has been a member of the most exclusive club in major college football - major college football national champions - for 30 years. Utah is still on the outside looking in.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

wacpaddled

"because of BYU's situation in 1984, it was impossible for Utah to be awarded the national championship in 2008"

LOL at your false claim.

The Bowl Coalition was the initial predecessor of the Bowl Championship Series that was formed through an agreement among college football bowl games and conferences for the purpose of forcing a national championship game between the top two teams and to provide quality bowl game matchups for the champions of its member conferences. It was established for the 1992 season after co-national champions in both 1990 and 1991. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with BYU 1984. The agreement was in place for the 1992, 1993, and 1994 seasons. It was supplanted by the Bowl Alliance in 1995, which was replaced by the BCS in 1998.

The vast difference BYU 1984 and Utah 2008 was the majority of coach and sportswriters agreed that BYU deserved to win the 1984 National Championship, and the majority of coach and sportswriters didn't think that Utah deserved the 2008 National Champion.

nonceleb
Salt Lake City, UT

Any unbiased and knowledgeable follower of football knows that it was mostly a fluke. The much ballyhooed victory over then #3 Pitt is diminished as it became apparent that they were highly overrated and ended the season out of the top 25. Many top teams were knocking each other off. BYU's strength of schedule was one of the worst in the NCAA. BYU finally just barely beat unrated 6-5 Michigan 17-10. It was a great accomplishment ending the season as the only undefeated team, but it is a real stretch to say they were the best team in the country. As for the claim of jealousy, Utah's circumstances were very different. When they went undefeated in 2004 there were 4 other undefeated teams by the end of the regular season, and 3 teams remained undefeated (two undefeated teams met in a bowl game) for the final rankings. A team with one loss even ended up ahead of Utah in the polls.

Seminolebob
JACKSONVILLE, FL

I would say Utah had it way tougher on 2008 that BYU did in 1984. Utah was the little guy that got shafted, even after going undefeated.

What have you done lately sammyg? What BYU did was long ago. We won last year!!!!!!

Go Noles!!!!!!!

FatMan86
West Jordan, UT

Whether you are talking about 1984, 1996, 2004, or 2008, it's no different. Those stories are not 2014, and in 2014 neither BYU or Utah is relevant because they don't win consistently against quality competition. Enjoy the memories BYU and Utah homers.

Tomahawk Red
San Francisco, CA

I Bleed Blue
Las Vegas, NV

Oh well, at least Utah has that scoreboard with the Fiesta Bowl and Sugar Bowl BCS banners.

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And four in a row...

And 9 of 12...

And 54-10...

And Pac 12 versus irrelevance.

Utah fans couldn't care less about BYU owning the most disputed NC in college football history.

LOL

Tomahawk Red
San Francisco, CA

sammyg
Springville, UT

Slap a 2014 sticker on your PAC12 participation banner.

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Utah has accomplished twice as much as BYU has.

Deal with it pal.

PS- I LOVE how much angst our Pac 12 stickers cause you.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tomahawk Red
San Francisco, CA

Go Red's comments are getting Y fans all riled up alright!

Because they are true.

If Utah's 2004/2008 accomplishments had happened in 1984, they would have won the NC on each occasion.

If BYU's 1984 season happened in 2004/2008, it would have resulted in a BCS bowl... but NOT a NC.

Anyone... ANYONE, regardless of whether you're a fan of BYU or Utah, who denies that is in denial of the facts.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

sammyg
Springville, UT

gored

A crystal trophy, the continuing media respect that BYU garners because of it and what Lavell Edwards accomplished begs to differ.

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Media respect, like "Who they beat, Bo Diddly Tech?". Let's be real, it's a "disputed" national title.

"With the way the [BCS] system is now, there's no question we wouldn't have been No. 1. We probably would have gone to a better bowl, and that would have been great, but there would have been four teams higher than us in the polls." -- Robbie Bosco

“That's essentially what happened last season to BYU's rival, Utah, which finished its regular season unbeaten but never rose higher than No. 6 in the BCS standings. The Utes earned a lucrative trip to the Sugar Bowl, but despite stunning SEC runner-up Alabama, had to settle for No. 2 in the final AP poll [16 votes] behind 13-1 Florida, which toppled 12-2 Oklahoma in the BCS Championship Game.” -- SI

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Uteanymous

There are two iconic trophies representing the ultimate individual and team achievement in major college football - the Heisman Trophy and the Crystal Football National Championship Trophy.

Both such trophies are displayed proudly in BYU's Legacy Hall of Fame. The Utes have never gotten close to winning either.

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That depends on your definition of "close".

Utah in 2008 finished AP #2 with 16 first place votes (highest ranked mid-major during BCS era and since 1984).

Alex Smith finished #4 in the 2004 Heisman voting:

#1 Matt Leinart, USC
#2 Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma
#3 Jason White, Oklahoma
#4 Alex Smith, Utah
#5 Reggie Bush, USC

rick122948
boise, id

Winning a national championship just as winning the Heisman trophy is more a whole series of fortunate occurrences than the absolute measure of superiority over the competition. Both have been won in Cinderella fashion as often as an overwhelming power of success. If BYU had not defeated Miami that first game of the year Detmer likely would not have won the Heisman. If there had been another undefeated team in 1984, the national title would probably have gone elsewhere. Utah should have won the title in 2008, but the power of influence of the "power conferences" had taken control by then. Boise State came within a missed field goal of making their claim to history. We should take pride in the accomplishments of all our schools and athletes, and always remember the excitement and joy we shared watching them.

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