RBB,What you keep saying is exactly the problem. None of what you
said is the common core. There is no method, curriculum or book. It is a set
of standards!Never before have I seen so many people duped into
believing something that is complete false. When I ask my neighbor what part of
the common core he doesn't like, he can't tell me. He will say
something like, "well the new book that comes with common core..."There is no book that comes with common core. The common core is a set
of standards created by the states.Did you know that Utah was the
leader in organizing the SBAC until our legislators decided to pull us out of
it? Now the other states are benefitting from the work done by Utah and we lost
millions of dollars in grant money.Incredible.
So I guess there was no frustration by parents with math before the common core.
In fact, students loved math beyond measure before the common core, right?
@rbb.... You said "For example, several times last year my two youngest
children brought home math assignments. When they asked for help I read the
problem and tried to figure out what they even wanted. (Math was always my
strongest subject). My son (who is an engineer) also was baffled"You point out the exact problem. Common Core does not prescribe any
curriculum. That is set by the state, or local school boards. It does not
prescribe methods. That is set by the same bodies. If there is problems with
what kids come home with.... look no further than your local school board. This has yet again become an over politicized campaign to brand
something it is not. It is not a federal program. It was the work of govonors
from many states around the nation in an attempt to ensure kids in kentucky were
working towards the same profeciencies as kids in Utah. It presribes no lessons,
no text books, no methods. Anyone trying to turn it into something more that is
doing so purely for political purposes.
Maybe Mr. Florez is a Democrat? I haven't lost confidence in Utah's
public leaders. We have very few instances of corruption over the years. We
have one of the best run states in the nation.
Mr. Flores is right, the state board of education is responsible for education
standards in Utah. The state constitution should be changed to fix this. We
need to try different solutions and the board is part of the problem.Board members for the most part have education degrees. For some reason this
doesn't translate to excellence in education. I have worked with them to
see if math education could be fixed. They don't have what it takes to
appreciate there is a problem let alone do what it takes to improve the
John has missed the biggest problem in our state education system which is the
over- reaching state legislature who will not let the state school board do
their job. It is the state legislature that is mandating to the board things
such as SAGE testing (which by the way is not a federal testing program of
Common Core that many of the far right would have us believe). There are far
too many education bills introduced every year where the legislature is trying
to control our state system and take responsibility out of the hands of the
state school board. The governor is just trying to clear up the
misunderstanding of Common Core which is being circulated by the far right.
Yes, there are problems with the math CC, and SAGE testing will also have to be
reviewed for improvement, but the language arts/social studies/science CC is a
great improvement over NCLB which is a national republican education program.
Where were the right wingers during George Bush's presidency?
Florez blatantly ignores the fact that Herbert is acting to prevent left-wing
dogma from taking over the school system. This is what the public expects the
Governor to do.
On the contrary, our leaders are finally waking up to the fact that Common Core
is not just a set of standards. I am all in favor of high standards. But how
hard is it to say - here are our standards? Common Core is filled with content,
some of which is just wrong and some of which is convoluted. For example,
several times last year my two youngest children brought home math assignments.
When they asked for help I read the problem and tried to figure out what they
even wanted. (Math was always my strongest subject). My son (who is an
engineer) also was baffled. I finally showed my kids how to solve the problem
and within a few minutes they were getting the right answers. The right
answers were marked wrong, however, because they did not use the methodology the
teacher wanted. We finally started using the Saxon math books that our older
children had used and our kids significantly improved in their ability to solve
the problems. Now are kids know how the right answers (even if they will be
marked wrong because they do not follow the "new math" the teacher wants
Could this be an attempt at a distraction?We keep hearing that there will
be more to the investigation into the Swallow/Shurtliff casePossibly more
individuals in Utah government involved?
Why doesn't Mr Florez point out the obvious (well obvious to me anyway).The Common Core standards are the new bogeyman of the political right.
The Governor has gotten heat over this issue, and he desperately needs to bide
his time to see how the wind will blow in a year or so. I think he wants to be
re-elected and does not want to be challenged from his political right flank.
It would be a great if a committee was formed to look at reducing class size and
decaying teacher morale...