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Published: Thursday, July 24 2014 8:10 p.m. MDT

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poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@bigbadpac12fan...

"BYU is a probable "W" for pac12 teams?"... LOL... News flash... The Cougs have a better record against pac12 teams over the past 40 years than Utah... BYU is 29-32 (with a National Championship) which is a winning percentage of 47.5%... Utah is 28-53 for a winning percentage of 34.6%...

In other words, BYU's winning percentage against pac12 teams is about 13% better than the utes... And what really has to be embarrassing for the utes is the fact that BYU still has more total wins against pac12 teams than Utah does despite the fact that Utah has been in the conference for 3 years and they have 20 more games against pac12 opponents than BYU does... ouch.

Another interesting fact, when comparing BYU against the big bad pac12, BYU and USC are the only two programs that can boast a unanimous poll Championship (which means they didn't share the championship with another school)... BYU in 1984 and USC in 2004... In all fairness though, USC has 3 Co-Championships in this period in 1974, 1978, and 2003... while Washington has a Co-Championship in 1991 and Colorado has a Co-Championship in 1990.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

"In other words, BYU's winning percentage against pac12 teams is about 13% better than the utes."

Get back to us when byu plays Pac-12 teams in a back to back weekly grind. They've only ever played against them at random, spanning years. To date byu is 2-5 against The Pac-12, including 2 wins against bottom feeders, getting destroyed at home twice, getting destroyed on a neutral field and going 0-3 against The U, all of which occurred at random and not in a back to back weekly grind. byu would be battling Cal for the basement playing against a full 9 game Pac-12 schedule, make no mistake about it.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

Did you even read my post azutie?

The utes have been in the conference 3 years, played 20 more games against pac12 opponents over the past 40 years, and STILL don't have as many wins as BYU against those opponents.

You want to talk about the last 3 years? Okay... BYU is 2-2 against the same pac12 opponents that Utah plays in that time period (a 50% win ratio)... They split with OSU, beat WSU and lost to UW (a team that BYU is 4-4 against over the past 40 years and a team that the ute's have never beaten in that same time period... 0-3).

On the other hand Utah is 9-18 over the last 3 years against pac12 opponents (a 33% win ratio)...

So that's a 17% win ratio advantage for the Cougs... ouch.

It's true that the utes have beaten the Cougs the last four years... big wow... However, in the last 40 years BYU has a 9, 6, and a 4 game win streak... Get back to us if the utes can win 5 more in a row... LOL.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

azute1

You call playing Washington State and Colorado back-to-back as weekly grind?

LOL!

Bottom line:

Bronco is 9-9 versus PAC 12 teams (50%).
Kyle is 13-21 versus PAC 12 teams (38%).

When are Utah fans going to stop with the whiny excuses for losing?

kaysvillecougar
KAYSVILLE, UT

I like this new Duck in SLC. I love it that BYU gets to play teams from all over the country with a couple of games each yr. from PAC 12 schools. This makes a lot of sense and cents(better put, dollars from all the BYU fans on the west coast filling the PAC 12 stadiums) to schedule these quality regional teams. Two of my favorite PAC 12-BYU games were the 59-0 game against UCLA a few yrs. ago and the BYU-Oregon Bowl game 7-8 yrs. ago.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

SportsFan
Orem, UT
azute1

You call playing Washington State and Colorado back-to-back as weekly grind?

LOL!

Bottom line:

Bronco is 9-9 versus PAC 12 teams (50%).
Kyle is 13-21 versus PAC 12 teams (38%).

When are Utah fans going to stop with the whiny excuses for losing?

_______

Look no further than big brother BYU as the example.

When are BYU fans going to stop with the whiny excuses for losing to ranked teams?
And especially on ESPNs dime. Oh Boy! They are getting their money's worth alright.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

wacpaddled

BYU played five ranked teams in 2012, yet still managed to go to bowl.

Utah played two ranked teams in 2012, yet spent the holidays on the couch.

In 2013, BYU played a tougher schedule than any schedule Utah had ever played, prior to 2013, yet BYU still managed to go to a bowl.

It's seems that the only whiny excuse makers are the ones living under that crimson bubble on the hill.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Uteology

"Nope!.

1986 #4 ASU (10-1-1 Rose Bowl) beat #8 MI, #14 UCLA, and #16 Washington. They tied (3-7-1) Washington State at home and lost to #11 Arizona on the road.

2008 #2 Utah (13-0 Sugar Bowl) beat EVERYONE including #6 Alabama, #7 TCU, #18 Oregon State, #25 BYU."

Wow, Amazing how you didn't tell the whole story. ASU played 6 teams in the top 20 that year. Every team that was ranked was from a Power Conference. Utah's 2008 season only sported 2 teams ranked from Power Conferences. ASU's only loss was to the rival and while they were ranked #14. Interesting to note, ASU beat Utah that year 52 to 7. Keep grasping at straws Uteology. As long as fans from Utah belittle others, you're not going to get much respect from those of us who have been there, done that. See you in November for ASU's guaranteed win since 1978.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ poyman

"The Cougs have a better record against pac12 teams over the past 40 years than Utah"

Can you please explain how BYU's 10-6 victory over a 3-win Oregon St. team in 1978 has any impact on whether or not BYU is a "probable win" for PAC-12 teams in 2014?

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@81Ute

Nobody takes games played prior to the Modern Era (1950) seriously.
8 game seasons with games against High Schools and Kearns Rotary are nothing to build your resume on.

Try again.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@2fer

I'm not the one who suggested that BYU was an easy win for big bad pac12 foes... That was offered up by one of the ute faithful... Such a statement implies that history shows BYU to be an easy target for the pac12... The 1978 10-6 victory over the Beavers was just one of 32 examples where the "BYU is an easy Victory for pac12 teams" didn't quite workout...

Incidentally, also in 1978, BYU beat Oregon 17-16 (another victory included in the 32 that I spoke of and a year where the Ducks struggled 3-8). But then there is 2006 when BYU beat Oregon 30-8 in a year that they went 7-4, and 2009 when the Cougs beat the OSU Beavers 44-20 in a year they went 8-5, and who can forget one of my favorite games in 2008 where the Cougs eeked out a 59-0 victory over a 4-8 UCLA team.

In short, it appears that BYU might not be that easy win for big bad pac12 teams that the ute fans like to claim... In other words, BYU is no Utah.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Bluto

Nobody takes games played longer than 5-10 years ago seriously.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@2fer

"Nobody takes games played longer than 5-10 years ago seriously."

Really???

So does that mean the ute's 2004 Fiesta Bowl win and their 2008 Sugar Bowl win over Alabama is meaningless?

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ poyman

Meaningless is the wrong word. They were special seasons, and they helped build the program. But are they relevant to the upcoming season, or will they somehow help Utah win? No.

Y's little brother
Sandy, UT

2fer

"Nobody takes games played longer than 5-10 years ago seriously."

So Utah's game versus Kentucky in the 1998 NCAA final can't be taken "seriously"?

It's laughable how Utah fans apply one standard of "relevance" when talking about Utah, but use a completely different standard of "relevance" when talking about BYU.

btw, can you explain how any game in any preceding season will have any impact on any future season?

It seems from the following example, that even one year is too long for a preceding game to be taken "seriously":

Utah pulled off a narrow 23-22 upset of BYU in 1978; in 1979, BYU shut the Utes out 27-0, then destroyed Utah 56-6 the following year.

Jeremy234
SLC, UT

As a Utah fan, I'd like to see annual games between the Cougs and us, Zona, and ASU. The Cougs have a tough time scheduling in November, finishing off the year with ASU, UA, Boise, Utah, and USU would get you some respect. I think that it would be fun to see those rivalries renewed. To be honest, I'd also like for those three teams to beat up on each other a little bit earlier in the season as well. Lol.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

SportsFan:

"You call playing Washington State and Colorado back-to-back as weekly grind?"

You DON'T call playing #21 Arizona St, #9 Oregon, WSU, and Colorado a weekly grind? What about #16 UCLA, #11 Stanford, Arizona, and #19 USC? Would THAT be a "weekly grind"?

For what it's worth, we don't consider USU, Weber St, Ore St, and our midmajorey little brother as a "weekly grind". That's why we went 3-1 vs. THAT stretch, as opposed to 1-3 in the other two.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Y's little brother

Like I said, Utah's 1998 season was special and it was a lot of fun. However, that season has done nothing to help Utah win in the PAC, and it will be the same story this upcoming season. Citing accomplishments from years ago and evidence that teams will do things in the future is silly. If Utah wants to win games in 2014, than it is solely up to the 2014 team to put wins together. What happened in 2004, 2008, or even last year doesn't matter anymore. Likewise, it's silly to say that BYU is/isn't an easy win for PAC-12 schools because of its record 40 years ago. I don't see what is hard to understand about that. Nor do I see the hypocrisy you've accused me of. I didn't mention the 98 basketball season, and I never called it relevant.

DeepBlue
Anaheim, CA

navelint

Spin it however helps you sleep at night, but all you had to do to qualify for a bowl in 2013 was beat two teams that finished the season with losing records - Washington State(6-7) and Colorado(4-8).

It's hilarious how Utah fans continue to paint that minor achievement as some sort of insurmountable task.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah
wacpaddled

BYU played five ranked teams in 2012, yet still managed to go to bowl.

Utah played two ranked teams in 2012, yet spent the holidays on the couch.

In 2013, BYU played a tougher schedule than any schedule Utah had ever played, prior to 2013, yet BYU still managed to go to a bowl.

It's seems that the only whiny excuse makers are the ones living under that crimson bubble on the hill.

______

It's easy when BYUs bowl games are prearranged in advance. That's an easy way to save face. Go 1-11 and BYU fans like yourself will still say what a great season you had and deserve to be in a bowl game.

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