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Published: Thursday, July 24 2014 8:10 p.m. MDT

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utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

Riverton Coug

I did a "Utes" search and this article came up. Go figure.

Worf

Funny you quote the Arizona article. Really does not put byU in a glowing light either. The fact that they are playing Savannah State, I don't think I would want that mentioned at all if I were a byU "fan". The funny thing is, Utah is 20-17-2 against UA all-time. I would ask the same question back to this writer regarding AU.

Oh well, let me just look at my tickets to the Oregon game at RES one more time.

81Ute
Central, UT

@Striker

They ploy that Bronco Mendenhall used to jump that poor reporter from Texas is why BYU is being brought up. The tactic was an embarassment to BYU as well and the Church and every member therof, myself included. Begging and groveling for inclusion in a conference hardly suggests relevence nor does it suggest recognition of the positive kind. BYU is fast becoming an after thought, even if it is through no fault of there own.

I have said it before and again now, I truly fell sorry for college football fans that cheer for BYU (not the same as BYU fans). We all know what is coming and if BYU doesn't get included soon, well...sorry.

ekute
Layton, UT

CougarsSunDevil and Bluto,

Pandering for opinions and desperately fishing for compliments.
Do you realize that all of the mid-major conference champions will go to a better bowl than your prearranged beach bowl? And with Utah's SOS, if they qualify, they will likely get a better bowl than most of the mid-major conference champions. Go Utes!

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Bluto

Arizona St. didn't qualify for a bowl for three straight seasons spanning from 2008-2010. Washington missed a bowl game every single year between 2002 and 2010. Those programs rebounded nicely, and are doing quite well right now. Utah has narrowly missed a bowl game in each of the past two seasons, but it is in no way a sign that Utah football will be down forever. It's also equally ridiculous to expect that Utah should have made a run at a Rose Bowl in only three years before it had a chance to build depth or upgrade facilities. There is an ebb and flow to college football, and Utah will eventually get back to its winning ways.

But your reality is that Utah is IN, while BYU is on the outside literally begging for a seat at the table. Also, I will concede that BYU plays on major networks. That part you forget to mention is that many of those games are during the week. The MAC and C-USA use the same strategy to get their teams some TV time.

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

For you Ute fans who believe that BYU is becoming irrelevant, I would refer you to a recent article on CBS Sports' website. They ranked the athletic programs of all 125 FBS schools based on the relative strengths of their football, men and women's basketball, and baseball programs, with an additional program in which the school excelled thrown in as a "wild card".

The results? BYU was ranked #42 overall. Not bad for a "mid-major" program. Certainly better than fellow "mid-majors" Boise State (#63) and Utah State (#70), and better than many "power conference" programs.

And where were the Mighty PAC-12 Utes ranked? If BYU was ranked #42, then Utah was ranked at least as high if not higher, right? Nope, they were ranked significantly lower.

Well, they certainly would be ranked higher than Boise State or the Aggies, correct? Nope. They were lower than both. By a good margin.

According to analysis by CBS Sports, Utah's "Conference of Champions!!" athletic program was ranked a lofty 84 overall. But cheer up Ute fans: Washington State and Colorado were ranked even lower, so you're not the most pathetic in the PAC-12. Yet.

Scores
Idaho Falls, ID

I'll bet that BYU wins more games this year than Utah does.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

The PAC is not going to enter an extra special scheduling arrangement with BYU like the ACC has with Notre Dame. Remember, Notre Dame's football deal is tied with joining the conference in all other sports.

tinplater
scottsdale, AZ

A thought on rivalry...it develops over time, and not in just a few years. USU BYU and Utah have been playing each other fairly regularly for about 100 years. It will take decades for Colorado to become a Ute Rival...it will happen more quickly if they are competing for something meaningful (like a trip to the Rose Bowl). But just routine scheduled games for the next 10 years will not a rivalry make.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

Utah has played roughly 1/3 of their conference games in the PAC with a healthy day 1 starting QB. Despite that these three years they've been one win away from a PAC-12 championship game (albeit due to USC sanctions) and one game away from a bowl the most recent two years. The assertion that they'll never make the Rose Bowl and are a long way from any bowl seems premature.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@ Two For Flicnhing

I know ASU, ASU is a friend of mine, ASU has a rich tradition, believe me Two-Fur....
U are no ASU.

In the modern era of College Football, Utah has had 6 good years and took 50 years to win a Conference Championship outright, in a Conference with teams, you now besmirch..

Where will Utah win a Conference Championship, in any sport, in the next 10 years?
The U is an embarrassment.

BYU is begging for nothing. Their Brand sustains them. They don't need to ride others coattails to survive.

Your "you play games during the week" is a non-starter. As now, even the Pac and the NFL clamor for those Thursday and Friday night games. The fact is, Utah can't get scheduled on the Major Networks, any day of the week.

Belonging to a Conference does not make one elite. Being Elite makes one Elite and every Conference is filled with mid-majors and bottom-feeders i.e. Utah.

For 40 years, BYU has and will continue to be a top 35 program in football, while Utah, along with Duke, Indiana, Vanderbilt, Washington State etc... will not.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Riverton Coug

I did a "Utes" search and this article came up. Go figure."

@utahcountyute

I mentioned in my comment that I know this isn't necessarily just a BYU article, which was my way of saying it was listed on the Ute articles as well. However, it is true that BYU articles are filled with Ute fan comments.

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

Bluto

Keep the dream alive. Bronco disagrees with you, Tom Holmoe disagrees with you and every byU "fan" that is not drinking the blue stuff that some byU fans drink, disagrees with you.

If Utah is an "embarrassment" in college football, what is byU? Consider that when you think of 9 of the last 12, 4 in a row and 54-10. OUCH!

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

Striker "Yet another conference to openly talk about BYU at their media days."
The topic of BYU comes up at conference media days, because someone is planted in the audience to ask a question about BYU.

Kind of like at MWC media days where the audience plant asked about the tradition of playing BYU. The commissioner answered "yes there is a tradition of MWC teams playing BYU, much like there is very great tradition of Utah State playing Utah in one of the nation's oldest rivalries.

I didn't hear BYU come up in the Big Ten media days.
Did the audience plant not get there in time?

Frozen Fractals
Salt Lake City, UT

@Bluto
"Where will Utah win a Conference Championship, in any sport, in the next 10 years? "

They won a PAC-12 championship in gymnastics just a couple months ago.

311ute
Reno, NV

This article and the comments that follow are great examples of why the 2 year break from the rivalry is a good thing. To the SLC media and the fans, it's as if the two schools are joined at the hip. I am reminded of parent telling one child not to exclude the other child. Heaven forbid that the SLC media go the PAC12 media days and not ask about BYU. Is the Denver media asking about Colorado St? No, of course not. I know BYU is not Colorado State but give me a break. The SLC media is embarrassing both programs by bring up a school that does not belong to the conference. Give it up already!

No Conference Will Take Us
SEATTLE, WA

I Still Can't Say It
Holladay, UT
I'm thinking Larry Scott rolls his eyes whenever somebody asks him about BYU. Sure, some PAC-12 teams are willing to schedule 2 home games for 1 in Provo with BYU but that's it. BYU will never be invited to join the PAC-12.

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I think there is an extremely remote chance they could become a football only member in the BIG 12. On local sports radio up here, I listened to parts of PAC 12 media day. Every coach (not all were interviewed at the time) including Coach Kyle said the writing is on the wall. The 65 will break away and do what they want with football. What this means for BYU is anyones guess at this point. I think after this season we will know a lot more about the direction the P5 schools will go.

I poke fun at BYU. But I also don't like how the corporate world, ESPN included, is influencing college football. The P5 want to get away from the lesser D1 schools. Fine, perhaps the P5 schools don't need federal funding anymore. After all, they can generate a lot of revenue to replace it thru football.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT
For you Ute fans who believe that BYU is becoming irrelevant, I would refer you to a recent article on CBS Sports' website. They ranked the athletic programs of all 125 FBS schools based on the relative strengths of their football, men and women's basketball, and baseball programs, with an additional program in which the school excelled thrown in as a "wild card".

The results? BYU was ranked #42 overall. Not bad for a "mid-major" program. Certainly better than fellow "mid-majors" Boise State (#63) and Utah State (#70), and better than many "power conference" programs.

And where were the Mighty PAC-12 Utes ranked? If BYU was ranked #42, then Utah was ranked at least as high if not higher, right? Nope, they were ranked significantly lower.

_________

Who cares. No stat, football title, heisman or other awards have made a difference. BYU is still on the outside looking in. After 40+ years they have never ever received an official conference invite.

wynn
Columbus, OH

Amazing how many Ute fans feel the need to claim BYU irrelevance. You come off as being threatened by the Cougars. The image you are portraying is that you have to keep telling yourselves this to reassure yourselves, to convince yourselves again and again. But if BYU was truly irrelevant, then you'd pay them no mind. You wouldn't wait each hour for a new article to appear that mentions BYU and pounce on it. I guess it shouldn't be surprising. Utah has gained its identify and relevance thanks to BYU and needs BYU in order to maintain it. I guess it would be threatening given how big and widespread a brand the Cougars are nationally and beyond as compared to the Utes. One evidence of this is the contract ESPN has with the Cougars.

eric2002x
Miami, FL

Yes, and for 30 years the PAC10 only "needed" 10 members, and would have answered the same thing in every media day...until suddenly in 2010 there was an "earthquake", they chased most of the Big12 (the big prizes were Texas & Oklahoma) and were left with Colorado & Utah. Good for them, Utah was at the "right place, at the right time" given their impressive 2004 & 2008 seasons.

If there is anything true, is that nothing stays the same forever. It used to be the PAC8, then PAC10 now PAC12. The Big10 now has 14 members. The SEC has 14 members. The ACC has 14 members. The trend is obvious - you have to get to at least 14 (and 16 has been discussed) - so that leaves 2 spots in the PAC and 4 spots in Big 12 (with only 10 members). Big12 is likeliest expansion since they don't hide behind the "research" veneer. Expansion will happen sooner rather than later, BYU just has to be ready with quality wins on their resume. P5 inclusion is a matter of geography and timing more than anything - as many Conference USA and Big East teams can attest - one day you are not P5, the other day you are & vice-versa.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Bluto

ASU has a rich tradition of what? They have less conf. title, less overall wins, worse bowl record, less BCS bowl appearances/wins than Utah does. Yet somehow the Sun Devils have found a way to succeed in the PAC-12. I'm confident Utah can, and will, do the same. Also, it's weird that you consider a school to be your friend.

Utah already won a conf. this last Spring in Gymnastics.

BYU is begging. We all read about Bronco's interview with the Austin Statesman. That is the definition of begging.

It's not uncommon for teams to be showcased on Thursday once or twice in a season. It is uncommon to play as many weekday games as BYU does.

Utah > BYU. Play our schedule and your team would crumble. Have fun hiding behind those big wins over the directional schools like MTSU.

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