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Published: Thursday, July 24 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Couldn't agree more.... whether it is Israeli and Palestinians, or Democrat and Republican, our capacity to hate has nothing to do with who is in charge but far more so the attitudes found in the home. The savior taught that we should love both our neighbor and our enemy alike - all during times of much more strife and oppression than we have now. Our attitudes are not determined by people elsewhere, but in our own homes.

ECR
Burke, VA

Great letter Jan. And that concept also illustrates the great responsibility of parents in teaching correct principles to the children they raise in their families. It's something we should all think about before we spout off with hateful rhetoric about anyone, even in the assumed privacy of our homes. Little ears are listening and they will perpetuate the thoughts and character of the people they look up to - their parents. Let's be careful.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"which tells me the people are being taught to hate, perpetuating the problem"

I recently attended an eagle scout ceremony for a 14 year old scout who had earned the rank.
At one point in the ceremony, a letter addressed to him was read aloud. It was signed Barack Obama.

Upon hearing this name, the boy laughed and rolled his eyes. When he was then handed the letter, he mocked tearing it up.

How sad is this? One can credit his "patriotic" parents for instilling such contempt and hatred for our countries elected leader and for completely missing one of the main principles in boy scouts.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Agreed!

The same can be said about hating --

President Obama,
Tree-Huggers,
Democrats,
Muslims,
Blacks,
Hispanics,
Gays,
the poor, the sick, the needy....etc.

It's all learned in the home.

BTW --

In the Book of Mormon,
It's refered to following "in the traditions in their Fathers."

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I think a lot of this is on the media.

The media has discovered that it's more profitable to place a bunch of good looking girls and have them bash the President for ratings. The media has found that it's more profitable to say shocking things on am radio rather than be civil and rational. The media has learned that you get more ears and eyes if you're a rodeo clown rather than a reporter.

The media isn't helping to inform, but to mold and shape our hate. So sad.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ JoeBlow, your story of the scout made me want to cry because hate has become so pervasive in our country. I've been around since Eisenhower, and there have been Presidents that I did not vote for and with whom I had differences. But I always respected them because they served in the office and they were selected by the People. It is so sad that this approach is in the past, that hyper-partisanship is the rule, and that the opposing party has sworn to make an incoming President a failure.

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

@ Joe Blow

Think that boy would have done the same thing had Bush or Romney been President? Why or why not?

Parents, where do you think he learned this from?

Leaders, what does it benefit to know how to do a knot when you don't even know the basic principles like respect?

Being a vet myself, I would have made a scene. I didn't sacrifice my time and blood so that punks can make fun of the President. I don't care who the President is and which party he's from. You show him/her respect. You can disagree without being disagreeable and disrespectful.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

Maybe this tolerance some of you seem to be talking about should be aimed at places like Berkeley California, and other universities, where they hate the U.S. Military so much, recruiters are not even allowed on campus on in the city. And since this is DN, do I even need to remind some that there are places where Missionaries will not go for fear of the hatred they will have pointed at them? And don't try to say that the anti military attitude was all based upon the don't ask don't tell policy. If you try to use a political issue as a valid reason to hate, then the opposition to Obama is justified, as he is a political issue with which many disagree for good reason.

ECR
Burke, VA

JoeBlow - Thank you for your illustrative remark. A 14 year-old boy who has supposedly dedicated his life to living in accordance with the principles lived by other Eagle Scouts. What does it say about his parents, indeed? But what does it say about his scout leaders and those he has associated with? It is cetainly a sad commentary when one so young has learned to disrespect the president even on front of public audience. What will he be doing as an adult?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Agreed!

But -- this also applies to hatred of:

President Obama,
Our Government,
Environmentalists,
political parties,
Muslims, Jews,
blacks, hispanics, asians,
Gays, Lesbians,
the poor,
etc.

In the Book of Mormon,
it's called living "in the traditions of their Fathers."

Meaning -- they learned it in their homes, from their parents.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

LDS Liberal:

Why did you limit your targets of "hate" to only leftists?

If you were truly concerned about stopping all the hatred out there, your list would have included some of the following:

President Bush
Republicans
Conservatives
Rich people
Corporations
Pro-life crowd
Religious people
Tea Party folks
Traditional Marriage supporters

Or are you like some who believe that racism can only exist as white people discriminating against blacks - not the other way around? Liberals can and do teach hatred toward those who disagree with them ideologically.

If you are really concerned about hatred, preach against ALL hatred, not just your side of it.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Hate (or anger) is a pretty universal emotion and to the extent we can recognize our own part in keeping it alive there is a chance it can be overcome.

The problem with many religions is they codify and even make hate a righteous attribute of God. The OT often reads as a biography of a deity struggling to deal with this emotion, and even on occasion having to be talked down from the ledge (Numbers 14). And in our own time, how often have we heard “love the sinner, hate the sin?”

These views only make it all the more difficult to ever get beyond hate as they perpetuate the false notion that it’s caused by others and that our acting out the emotion is morally righteous.

I can think of no problems in life that cannot be more effectively handled without hate than with, as many great leaders throughout history have shown (e.g., Jesus, Gandhi, MLK). Good religion testifies to this truth but bad religion is making the problem exponentially worse.

Spangs
Salt Lake City, UT

I must echo the sentiment of Esquire. Even if that boy independently researched his position with respect to governance (which I doubt), he is missing a crucial part of what it means to be American. We must hold in highest esteem our democratic process, our neighbors, fellow citizens, our constitution, our lawmakers, our leaders and our government. If we all decide not to, we are ultimately doomed to the fate of Pakistan; a lawless, warring aggregate of ideological fanatics.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Hate is bad for America. But it is apparently very good at selling advertising on talk shows.

All Lunacy
Salt Lake City, UT

Agreed!

The same can be said about hating --

President Bush
Republicans
Christians
Mormons
Caucasians
Catholics
Conservatives
Tax payers
The middle class, the working class, the church goers,

it’s all learned in the home.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Hate (or anger) is a pretty universal emotion and to the extent we can recognize our own part in keeping it alive there is a chance it can be overcome.

The problem with many religions is they codify and even make hate a righteous attribute of God. The OT often reads as a biography of a deity struggling to deal with this emotion, and even on occasion having to be talked down from the ledge (Numbers 14). And in our own time, how often have we heard “love the sinner, hate the sin?”

These views only make it all the more difficult to ever get beyond hate as they perpetuate the false notion that it’s caused by others and that our acting out the emotion is morally righteous.

I can think of no problems in life that cannot be more effectively handled without hate than with, as many great leaders throughout history have shown (e.g., Jesus, Gandhi, MLK). Good religion testifies to this truth but bad religion is making the problem exponentially worse.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The problem is not hate, The problem is love. Love of life and all it brings. Sometimes called greed. Greed comes from the strongest built in drive to survive that exist in every living creature. It is responsible for the vast different kinds of life forms. Life forms try every strategy, every avenue that presents itself, some are successful, some are not.

In human beings, the ability to think ahead brings a whole arsenal of weapons to us, Hate is just one of those weapons. We use hate to disable those who would threaten our survival comfort as an alternative to war. The neat part about hate is that we don't have to do any thing to our enemy, hate is a weapon that we build in ourselves.

If we would defeat the hate in ourselves we need to analyze our need for such a weapon, and check to see if our enemy is really a threat to our survival. If we would defeat the hate in our enemy, we must convince him that we are not a threat to his survival.

It's sort of like that bit of turning the other cheek.

FanOfTheSith
Vernal, UT

As in "Monkey see, Monkey do" teaching or even leading by example can go either way.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

This letter ignores one important fact: we cannot fit another 6-8 billion people in this Country. Since we cannot, the line must be drawn somewhere. If it is not, we will suffer the inevitable consequences of overcrowding and poverty. The American way of life will cease to maintain any of the aspects which make it desirable.

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

@ Joe Blow

A politically charged ultra conservative youth group that belittles politicians who don't share their same right wing views? Where have we seen this before?

This child has completely missed the whole point of scouting. When I was in scouting, it was all about building friendships, learning values, and respect for others and nature.

If scouting has forgotten this to become some sick right wing movement where intolerance is valued, then I hope it continues to diminish in popularity and participation. My young children can join athletic teams, bands, and clubs to receive a better education.

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