Published: Thursday, July 24 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Couldn't agree more.... whether it is Israeli and Palestinians, or Democrat
and Republican, our capacity to hate has nothing to do with who is in charge but
far more so the attitudes found in the home. The savior taught that we should
love both our neighbor and our enemy alike - all during times of much more
strife and oppression than we have now. Our attitudes are not determined by
people elsewhere, but in our own homes.
Great letter Jan. And that concept also illustrates the great responsibility of
parents in teaching correct principles to the children they raise in their
families. It's something we should all think about before we spout off
with hateful rhetoric about anyone, even in the assumed privacy of our homes.
Little ears are listening and they will perpetuate the thoughts and character of
the people they look up to - their parents. Let's be careful.
"which tells me the people are being taught to hate, perpetuating the
problem"I recently attended an eagle scout ceremony for a 14
year old scout who had earned the rank.At one point in the ceremony, a
letter addressed to him was read aloud. It was signed Barack Obama.Upon hearing this name, the boy laughed and rolled his eyes. When he was then
handed the letter, he mocked tearing it up.How sad is this? One can
credit his "patriotic" parents for instilling such contempt and hatred
for our countries elected leader and for completely missing one of the main
principles in boy scouts.
Agreed!The same can be said about hating -- President
Obama, Tree-Huggers, Democrats, Muslims, Blacks, Hispanics, Gays,the poor, the sick, the needy....etc.It's all learned in the home.BTW -- In the Book
of Mormon, It's refered to following "in the traditions in their
I think a lot of this is on the media.The media has discovered that
it's more profitable to place a bunch of good looking girls and have them
bash the President for ratings. The media has found that it's more
profitable to say shocking things on am radio rather than be civil and rational.
The media has learned that you get more ears and eyes if you're a rodeo
clown rather than a reporter.The media isn't helping to inform,
but to mold and shape our hate. So sad.
@ JoeBlow, your story of the scout made me want to cry because hate has become
so pervasive in our country. I've been around since Eisenhower, and there
have been Presidents that I did not vote for and with whom I had differences.
But I always respected them because they served in the office and they were
selected by the People. It is so sad that this approach is in the past, that
hyper-partisanship is the rule, and that the opposing party has sworn to make an
incoming President a failure.
@ Joe BlowThink that boy would have done the same thing had Bush or
Romney been President? Why or why not?Parents, where do you think he
learned this from?Leaders, what does it benefit to know how to do a
knot when you don't even know the basic principles like respect?Being a vet myself, I would have made a scene. I didn't sacrifice my time
and blood so that punks can make fun of the President. I don't care who the
President is and which party he's from. You show him/her respect. You can
disagree without being disagreeable and disrespectful.
Maybe this tolerance some of you seem to be talking about should be aimed at
places like Berkeley California, and other universities, where they hate the
U.S. Military so much, recruiters are not even allowed on campus on in the city.
And since this is DN, do I even need to remind some that there are places where
Missionaries will not go for fear of the hatred they will have pointed at them?
And don't try to say that the anti military attitude was all based upon the
don't ask don't tell policy. If you try to use a political issue as a
valid reason to hate, then the opposition to Obama is justified, as he is a
political issue with which many disagree for good reason.
JoeBlow - Thank you for your illustrative remark. A 14 year-old boy who has
supposedly dedicated his life to living in accordance with the principles lived
by other Eagle Scouts. What does it say about his parents, indeed? But what
does it say about his scout leaders and those he has associated with? It is
cetainly a sad commentary when one so young has learned to disrespect the
president even on front of public audience. What will he be doing as an adult?
Agreed!But -- this also applies to hatred of:President
Obama, Our Government, Environmentalists, political parties,
Muslims, Jews, blacks, hispanics, asians, Gays, Lesbians, the poor, etc.In the Book of Mormon, it's called
living "in the traditions of their Fathers."Meaning -- they
learned it in their homes, from their parents.
LDS Liberal:Why did you limit your targets of "hate" to only
leftists?If you were truly concerned about stopping all the hatred
out there, your list would have included some of the following:President BushRepublicansConservativesRich peopleCorporationsPro-life crowdReligious peopleTea Party folksTraditional Marriage supportersOr are you like some who believe
that racism can only exist as white people discriminating against blacks - not
the other way around? Liberals can and do teach hatred toward those who disagree
with them ideologically.If you are really concerned about hatred,
preach against ALL hatred, not just your side of it.
Hate (or anger) is a pretty universal emotion and to the extent we can recognize
our own part in keeping it alive there is a chance it can be overcome.The problem with many religions is they codify and even make hate a righteous
attribute of God. The OT often reads as a biography of a deity struggling to
deal with this emotion, and even on occasion having to be talked down from the
ledge (Numbers 14). And in our own time, how often have we heard “love the
sinner, hate the sin?” These views only make it all the more
difficult to ever get beyond hate as they perpetuate the false notion that
it’s caused by others and that our acting out the emotion is morally
righteous.I can think of no problems in life that cannot be more
effectively handled without hate than with, as many great leaders throughout
history have shown (e.g., Jesus, Gandhi, MLK). Good religion testifies to this
truth but bad religion is making the problem exponentially worse.
I must echo the sentiment of Esquire. Even if that boy independently researched
his position with respect to governance (which I doubt), he is missing a crucial
part of what it means to be American. We must hold in highest esteem our
democratic process, our neighbors, fellow citizens, our constitution, our
lawmakers, our leaders and our government. If we all decide not to, we are
ultimately doomed to the fate of Pakistan; a lawless, warring aggregate of
Hate is bad for America. But it is apparently very good at selling advertising
on talk shows.
Agreed!The same can be said about hating -- President
BushRepublicansChristiansMormonsCaucasiansCatholicsConservativesTax payersThe middle class, the
working class, the church goers, it’s all learned in the home.
The problem is not hate, The problem is love. Love of life and all it brings.
Sometimes called greed. Greed comes from the strongest built in drive to
survive that exist in every living creature. It is responsible for the vast
different kinds of life forms. Life forms try every strategy, every avenue that
presents itself, some are successful, some are not. In human
beings, the ability to think ahead brings a whole arsenal of weapons to us, Hate
is just one of those weapons. We use hate to disable those who would threaten
our survival comfort as an alternative to war. The neat part about hate is that
we don't have to do any thing to our enemy, hate is a weapon that we build
in ourselves. If we would defeat the hate in ourselves we need to
analyze our need for such a weapon, and check to see if our enemy is really a
threat to our survival. If we would defeat the hate in our enemy, we must
convince him that we are not a threat to his survival.It's sort
of like that bit of turning the other cheek.
As in "Monkey see, Monkey do" teaching or even leading by example can go
This letter ignores one important fact: we cannot fit another 6-8 billion people
in this Country. Since we cannot, the line must be drawn somewhere. If it is
not, we will suffer the inevitable consequences of overcrowding and poverty.
The American way of life will cease to maintain any of the aspects which make
@ Joe BlowA politically charged ultra conservative youth group that
belittles politicians who don't share their same right wing views? Where
have we seen this before?This child has completely missed the whole
point of scouting. When I was in scouting, it was all about building
friendships, learning values, and respect for others and nature.If
scouting has forgotten this to become some sick right wing movement where
intolerance is valued, then I hope it continues to diminish in popularity and
participation. My young children can join athletic teams, bands, and clubs to
receive a better education.
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