Danish American wrote:Just wondering when the earth stopped producing
coal, oil, & natural gas. Can anyone tell me. If you can't, then you
would have to consider them renewal, too.------------The
answer was not when they stopped but when we started taking more than was being
made. It was probably around the time the United States started running up the
Fitz,Why am I being charged a fee by you to sell you something in
return? There is no sense in it. Yes, I'm using your lines... but you are
buying it. You don't have to buy it. You are under no obligation. If the
power company is getting something, then what's the problem?The
real problem is that we are in a 'something for nothing' world now,
where no one can see sense anymore until they are hit with a hard reminder of
As a solar electric homeowner, I wanted to add a few facts that have not been
mentioned:1) RMP does not pay us directly for the surplus power that we
produce; rather they credit our accounts each month.2) The PSA allows RMP
to zero my account balance (and confiscate any remaining credits) once a year,
in March. (Poor public policy, since it discourages us from installing anything
beyond bare-minimum solar capacity.)3) Since us solar-electric producers
are producing max power during RMP's high-demand period each day, we are
somewhat reducing their need for additional capital investments in additional
generation and infrastructure capacity.In light of #2 above, I
sincerely question the need for an additional surcharge on top of the annual
windfall that RMP makes from the account-zeroing.
Scientists say there are could be billions and billions of solar systems in the
universe. I'm glad the prices are coming down so even the poorest of
persons can own their very own solar system.
This is a desperate attempt by RMP to hold on to their Monopoly and ensure
higher Utility bills.
LD_ Libyou do know that liberals, like yourself, are DEMANDING the
removal of hydro-electric dams, don't you? Many have already been taken
out. I'm curious, why the double standard?You have a problem
with drivers of electric cars helping to pay for the roads they use? Spoken
like a true liberal who wants to live off someone else's efforts.But, yeah, go ahead, stop subsidizing farmers - I have no problem with
that.As far as giving the CEO a bigger bonus - you DO know that as a
REGULATED utility, there are controls on that, don't you? Of course,
acknowledging such would negate your preconceived bias.
Steve,yes, that is why it is called "net metering"
If a moral compass was being used -- RMP would be raising the rates
for those using dirty, fossil fuels, and REDUCING the costs of those
making the world better.or Is this really just another
way for a business to increase income, while decreasing operating costs
thereby giving the CEO's a bigger and bigger pay raise for finding a
way to stick it to the consumers and laughing all the way to the bank?
What's next?Charging ELECTRIC Vehicle owners a monthly fee, because they stay connected to roads and aren't paying enough in Gas
Taxes?I know, Let's stop subsizing Farmers, and
start charging THEM a monthly fee for taking energy from the Sun, and
converting it into Food!What about those Hydro-electric Dams!They produce Free, Green, Re-newable energy as well, and put power on
the grid!How much is Rocky Mountain Power charging THEM for to hook
up to the grid, And RMP is buying and re-selling from them, just like they
do home-owners?!I'm curious?Why the double standard?
Can the person who creates extra electricity charge RMP when the flow of the
electricity goes to the grid? Just curious. Does anyone know?
I agree this is a tax added to the fees already on our utility bills to cover
infrastructure. I don't have any panels yet but I plan to sometime down
the road like many others. This fee is the first of many to discourage solar
power in residential hands.
The reason is quite simple. RMP sells a product (electricity). Some consumers
have realized they can get that same product for free by installing some
equipment. RMP is a business, not a charity - they don't like competition
(especially when the competition is giving away the product for free). RMP will
do anything they can to make the competition more difficult or expensive to use.
At first I thought this was a stupid idea, but then I thought about it some
more. This is the first article I've read that really describes what the
surcharge is for.let's see....who can afford to put
solar panels on their homes, the rich or the poor?If the rich put
solar panels on their homes and thereby reduce their contribution to RMP's
fixed costs, who will then see their bills increase the most to cover the fixed
costs, the rich or the poor?The surcharge will help RMP cover their
fixed costs, and indirectly help the poor keep their power bills from rising as
much as they otherwise would.
Just wondering when the earth stopped producing coal, oil, & natural gas.
Can anyone tell me. If you can't, then you would have to consider them
If you went totally off the grid, that is no connection to a power company or
their power lines, then you shouldn't be charged a fee. On the other hand,
if you stay connected to the grid and send power down the power companies lines
from your solar panels, then you should pay a fee to use their lines to sell
power back to the power company. The power company, whom ever it
may be, has to build and maintain the power lines. A small fee for someone who
wants to sell excess solar or wind power generated by a resident and uses the
power companies lines to move the electricity they are selling is reasonable.
1conservative,I agree. If someone converted their home to be more
energy efficient and use less electricity, which has the same net affect as
solar panels, there is no extra charge?This is an anti-alternative
power fight, not a conservation fight. RMP is trying to attack consumer
competition, with the anti-consumer (pro business) State of Utah's
permission. Companies can build solar power to sale to RMP for both
to profit at the expense of the consumers, but if consumers wants to produce
their own power the State, and RMP gang up on them.
As someone that doesn't have any solar panels, but sees the potential for
installing a system in the next 3-4 years, the RMP proposal makes no sense.
Someone puts up one or 1000 solar panels, they are charged the same amount. This
is a tax by a non-governmental authority that has no thought process or
forethought by the State "Consumer Advocates," or the power company. If you look at your bill their is already a connection fee, and
infrastructure fees... This is an excuse to charge more to those that are trying
to help with Utah's hazardous air. If you ask them, RMP will tell you that
people with solar generation "can afford it otherwise they couldn't buy
them." Don't discourage healthy lifestyles.
I agree. The surcharge is goofy and wrong-headed. How about if
Rocky Mtn. Power just takes down all their ads on television telling people to
conserve and use that money to further their profit picture instead?Rocky Mtn. Power doesn't even pay those who produce solar electricity as
much as they pay for power generated through traditional means.
Why would RMP be punishing those who went green? Who lobbied them to
do this?This is an outrage for the entire state! Not just those with
solar panels. I demand our AG look into this immediately. If he
wants to return integrity and trust into his office then Reyes must overturn
this massive slap in the face to Utahns everywhere.